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  1. bigbuc's Avatar
    Latest from the rumor mill on phonearena, the note 5 screen is 5.66"
    It's like everything I was expecting is gone. The stylus pops out like a government issue ballpoint pen.
    I hope we're pleasantly surprised. But, I'm feeling the Motorola x pure edition calling my name at half the price.
    I skipped the note 4, since it wasn't sufficient to replace my note 3. I bought the notes 1,2 & 3 the first day. Looked at the note 4, it was new but not much in the way of advancement.
    I've never had a non-samsung android, that'll be new.
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    08-02-2015 06:48 AM
  2. rushmore's Avatar
    And how can you say samsung will lose a big chunk of their core base to the G4 and Moto X. First of all, combined, those two companies don't even sell half the devices Samsung does. By Samsung scrapping SD cards, that is them trying to be like Apple??? Seriously??? Was LG trying to be like Apple when they produced the G2? Or when HTC launched the M7? What about Android makers today offering devices without SD slots. Are they trying to be like Apple? Your argument is senseless in that regard. No mention from you about Apple now making larger display devices. Who are they copying?

    Samsung will offer a selection of devices with different storage capacities like they do today. Pick the size that works for you. Common logic says if you go for 64GB over 32gb then you will pay more. So again I don't see your point of that being Iphone like.

    Lastly samsung isn't forcing anyone to switch to the N5 from a previous note device. If you own a Note with an SD slot and find it to be functional then keep it. Who says you have to switch. So the folks you speak with that aren't going for a Note5, that's ok. Guess what, there are many folks who didn't go for the N2, N3 & N4 either, so why expect anything different with the N5???

    Unlike Apple and their IOS devices, android/Google offers its users a selection of devices from many different manufacturers. If you don't like Samsung then try something else like LG,HTC, MOTO, Sony or whomever. With IOS you only have the iphone.

    Regardless of what people think of the changes Samsung is making, the fact is they will still sell millions and stay at the top of the Android market. For how long is anyone's guess.
    We shall see if your incredulity is supported by results. I think Samsung will lose at least 15% of their sales due to the lack of sd slot, but probably a wait until after Samsung smokescreens with sell-in numbers. The loss with the Note would be worse than the S6. Key word is "would" since not for sure yet if there is not one.

    If you think OEs that have half the marketshare can not impact a product segment in the future, that would be incorrect and not accounting for margin of share loss in the market. Very easy for a combined 15% loss of the segment which is millions of units and over a billion in lost revenue.

    Just a few-ish months to see.
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    08-02-2015 10:41 AM
  3. tadpoles's Avatar
    Everything I'm hearing about the Note 5 is making it sound less and less attractive. The good thing though is that the wonderful Note 4 should be available for a couple more years.


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    08-02-2015 01:51 PM
  4. rushmore's Avatar
    Everything I'm hearing about the Note 5 is making it sound less and less attractive. The good thing though is that the wonderful Note 4 should be available for a couple more years.


    Sent from the Elegance
    The Note 4 could release today and still seem new. The device truly rocks One of the reasons the Note 5 would see sales impact since a lot of the folks that change each year rather than contract terms could very likely just stick with the Note 4. Seems the most practical option if the battery and sd slot are priorities to the user.
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    08-02-2015 04:08 PM
  5. rushmore's Avatar
    Not looking good but until we see an actual device, or Samsung official info, the card faithful can hold onto hope For now anyway.
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    08-02-2015 04:14 PM
  6. svtalex's Avatar
    Just 2 more weeks and we will see the official specs. Me coming out of note 3, 100% sure I'll get it either way

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    08-02-2015 04:39 PM
  7. bigbuc's Avatar
    Won't the note 4 drop in price and still be available? I think so.
    I'm still pondering the X pure
    08-02-2015 07:32 PM
  8. rushmore's Avatar
    Someone over at Reddit not known for false posts stated they got to hold one this weekend, mess with it a few minutes and said the Note 5 is a giant S6. No sd slot confirmed.

    Note 5: You are dead to me. Meh. Now let's see how the Moto X Pure pans out.... Note 4 equals great consolation whatever the case
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    08-02-2015 09:04 PM
  9. 21stNow's Avatar
    Personally, I don't know. I want to not buy it out of protest, even though I rarely switch batteries and haven't used a micro-SD card in years now. I like the option to use both, though. My goal was to own every Note phone, but this will make me rethink this goal.

    My distaste for this choice is that you can't make your products like Apple's if you don't make your support like Apple's. If your battery goes dead in your iPhone, you can go to one of over 200 stores in the US for repair or replacement. If you want a Samsung Customer Service Location, there are a whopping seven locations in the US. The Samsung Experience areas in Best Buy do not perform technical/product support as far as I know.

    I'm not an Apple fan in the slightest, but I would have to be blind not to see the difference here and classify this as a negative for Samsung.
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    08-02-2015 09:07 PM
  10. rushmore's Avatar
    Personally, I don't know. I want to not buy it out of protest, even though I rarely switch batteries and haven't used a micro-SD card in years now. I like the option to use both, though. My goal was to own every Note phone, but this will make me rethink this goal.

    My distaste for this choice is that you can't make your products like Apple's if you don't make your support like Apple's. If your battery goes dead in your iPhone, you can go to one of over 200 stores in the US for repair or replacement. If you want a Samsung Customer Service Location, there are a whopping seven locations in the US. The Samsung Experience areas in Best Buy do not perform technical/product support as far as I know.

    I'm not an Apple fan in the slightest, but I would have to be blind not to see the difference here and classify this as a negative for Samsung.

    Watch out! The Incredulity Police will post and refute with ever encompassing incredulity as far as your views of sd slots and Samsung's intent
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    08-02-2015 09:24 PM
  11. tomus_jerry's Avatar
    No
    And tats th reason y didnt bought s6
    Want removable battery nd sd card
    Cant go without it
    Hope in note 5 atleast sd carf option is there

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    08-02-2015 09:56 PM
  12. Joshua Luther2's Avatar
    Look at how the Moto X Style/Pure Edition implements the the use of the sd card slot. By putting it in the same tray as the SIM card. Is there really any good reason as to why the Note 5 couldn't use that same tech? So, theoretically, there is still a glimmer of hope that it could or will have it. There are a couple of rumors circulating that it will have one still. We won't know for sure until the 12th or 13th.
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    08-03-2015 04:17 AM
  13. rushmore's Avatar
    One key reason: Samsung would then not be able to use the Apple model for storage sizes at higher margins Anybody that thinks that is not the main reason respectfully does not appreciate how pretty those products make a net present value calculation look. Sure, Samsung probably will not sell as much as they think they will, but it looks nice seeing all that extra profit on a Powerpoint slide

    Both Moto and LG have a shot here and should use their own marketing to leverage differentiation. Moto's new distribution model though is inherently constrained... Not sure if they can optimize sales. Should be interesting how much LG and Moto cut into Samsung with the now very clear differentiation. Sticking to my combined 15% marketshare gain. It could be higher, but LG and Moto do not have the same level of marketing resources as Samsung.
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    08-03-2015 07:40 AM
  14. Deke218's Avatar
    Nope, Nada, The Note 5 is Not Gonna Join My Other Notes, if these RUMORS are correct. Even if it comes with SD support and a removable battery, if it has a glass back, I'll skip it. I don't want anything that looks like an iPhone or an S6 for that matter.
    08-03-2015 10:56 AM
  15. Oldoobie's Avatar
    No, not me, never ever, not anytime.

    Bye bye Samsung Cellphone Division

    It was nice playing with you!
    08-03-2015 04:16 PM
  16. bigbuc's Avatar
    With the moto pure, I'm left wondering on price. I can get two for the price of one.
    All the note 5 marks (according to latest rumors) are missed. Even a smaller screen, 5.66" makes fair comparison to 5.5" devices.
    I was sold on note 5 since 2914 when I opted to skip the note 4 for lack of significant improvement over the note 3. NOW, the note 5 is going backwards. It's less impressive than the note 4.
    Next week we'll know for certain what the note 5 has, and all of us amateur designers can decide. I will likely go for the moto pure if these latest batch of rumors prove correct. In android I've only ever had the notes 1,2 &3 so it'll be a new experience. Will it be rootable? Will I decide to get tmo and Verizon sim cards in addition to at&t? For areas where att isn't working. But I have a great, but not unlimited att plan (30 gig family).
    Yeah. No USB-C. But I'll have my microSD card, wife and I will get both for the price of one note 5 (guessing from available rumors) I'll get a battery pack and the pure will be faster than my note 3, if not faster than the note 5.
    Then maybe sammy will learn and make a killer note 6.
    For the less technically inclined, get an iphone so I don't have to answer your questions. Like the old macs, it has permanent training wheels.
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    08-04-2015 09:08 AM
  17. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Everything I'm hearing about the Note 5 is making it sound less and less attractive. The good thing though is that the wonderful Note 4 should be available for a couple more years.


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    IMO, the only things that the Note 4 has over the Note 5 is the removable battery and SD card. Unless I'm missing something else other than those things, I'd say everything else about the Note 5 is better.
    08-04-2015 10:00 AM
  18. Joshua Luther2's Avatar
    I'm guessing the base Note 5 will be $100 more than the base S6. Which will make it $699. That's assuming it's 32gb. If it's 64gb base, then it could be $749-$799. But my gut tells me the base will be 32gb $699, maybe even as high as $799.

    This will make it out my price range and what I'm comfortable paying. I'm hoping I'm wrong and the base is 64gb and no more than $799. Otherwise I'll be getting the 128gb S6 for $799/$33 per month on Verizon edge.
    08-04-2015 10:20 AM
  19. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Look at how the Moto X Style/Pure Edition implements the the use of the sd card slot. By putting it in the same tray as the SIM card. Is there really any good reason as to why the Note 5 couldn't use that same tech? So, theoretically, there is still a glimmer of hope that it could or will have it. There are a couple of rumors circulating that it will have one still. We won't know for sure until the 12th or 13th.
    Looks like the latest (based on people that took pics of the phone and spoke with those people) is that there is no SD card.

    So now that we know (at least with some level of confidence) that the SD card and battery are not removable how many people will be skipping this? I'm thinking that even people that say these features are make or break will either still get it, or get something else based on the price difference.
    08-04-2015 11:38 AM
  20. JayWill's Avatar
    Looks like the latest (based on people that took pics of the phone and spoke with those people) is that there is no SD card.

    So now that we know (at least with some level of confidence) that the SD card and battery are not removable how many people will be skipping this? I'm thinking that even people that say these features are make or break will either still get it, or get something else based on the price difference.
    I'm now on the fence with the Note 5, but not necessarily on the no SD card / non-removable battery issue (I'd decided that this would be the case awhile ago). The size of the non-removable battery it looks like they went with is what concerns me, so I'll be reserving judgement until some solid reviews come out.
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    08-04-2015 11:44 AM
  21. spridell's Avatar
    There have been reports that the S6 will be getting a price drop pretty soon.

    I am guessing the S6 will go down to $500-$600

    and the Note 5 will come in $600-$700
    08-04-2015 11:44 AM
  22. diego.roscetti's Avatar
    I'm now on the fence with the Note 5, but not necessarily on the no SD card / non-removable battery issue (I'd decided that this would be the case awhile ago). The size of the non-removable battery it looks like they went with is what concerns me, so I'll be reserving judgement until some solid reviews come out.
    Exactly what I am thinking as well. The size of the battery is what concerns me the most.

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    08-04-2015 11:47 AM
  23. Joshua Luther2's Avatar
    There have been reports that the S6 will be getting a price drop pretty soon.

    I am guessing the S6 will go down to $500-$600

    and the Note 5 will come in $600-$700
    Well the S6 32gb is already $599 from verizon.
    08-04-2015 11:51 AM
  24. tadpoles's Avatar
    IMO, the only things that the Note 4 has over the Note 5 is the removable battery and SD card. Unless I'm missing something else other than those things, I'd say everything else about the Note 5 is better.
    For a lot of veterans those two things are paramount. The battery. If it's not BIGGER than the Note 4's AND is sealed myself and many other Note vets are likely gonna skip it and move towards something else. For me, the S Pen is cute but I can definitely live without it if I have to sacrifice all of what's important. Don't need a bigger/better screen. The camera is quite fine. The Note 4 is gorgeous from a design standpoint. 4000mah battery and a 128GB option w/in $100US of the Note 4 at launch. I'd look at that.

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    08-04-2015 01:16 PM
  25. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    For a lot of veterans those two things are paramount. The battery. If it's not BIGGER than the Note 4's AND is sealed myself and many other Note vets are likely gonna skip it and move towards something else. For me, the S Pen is cute but I can definitely live without it if I have to sacrifice all of what's important. Don't need a bigger/better screen. The camera is quite fine. The Note 4 is gorgeous from a design standpoint. 4000mah battery and a 128GB option w/in $100US of the Note 4 at launch. I'd look at that.

    from the Elegance
    So based on what you said you're not getting a new phone. :P At all, from any vendor.
    08-04-2015 02:03 PM
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