08-13-2015 10:10 AM
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  1. Almeuit's Avatar
    Well you do know that your carrier has access to all your phone numbers and text messages, and possible know everything you download on their network, which could be worst than them having access to your pictures and music.
    This is how I feel. I personally don't care if Google goes in and sees my pictures.. I have nothing super sensitive. I get some will say "but your privacy" and I agree but .. They say they aren't and I will take it at that. Could they? Sure. Chances of them looking at little ol' me? Probably very slim.

    Since we all use carriers they see where we go, who we talk to, and what we say in text messages. Carriers can map out any day where you travel and everything so privacy kind of goes out the window when using these devices. Yes .. I know that is the carrier vs Google but for me .. The convenience of backing everything up online so I can have it from phone to phone is worth it for me.

    Also not saying I am against SD cards .. My G4 has a slot I just don't use one due to unlimited data (I stream a lot) but I still have my photos and such backup automatically over wifi (and when charging) once I am home. That is more peace of mind for me than having everything on a random HD in my house.
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    07-10-2015 03:17 PM
  2. Geodude074's Avatar
    I understand you are trying to make a point, but its not as bad as you are making it out to be

    1. Google Photos is unlimited cloud storage (which is already a plus)
    2. Overnight uploading is not a bad thing, its the same thing as backing up your big files to a external Hard Drive overnight, which is what I do and pretty common if you are backing up large amounts of files
    3. The photos will pause if the connection breaks, and will automatically resume once its back up
    4. Set it up so that when you take a pic, it goes on your SD Card, but automatically will save on the cloud as an extra backup...do no wait till you get 8GB of photos before you do a bulk upload
    5. You need to get a better hotel if its offering you that speed. I have heard of no hotel with such a low speed, unless you are connected to someone else's wifi

    And just so you know, if your SD card crashes, gets misplaced, or damages, say goodbye to your photos. I HIGHLY recommend you back them up to a cloud service or external HD
    How many minutes are in an 8-hour night? Is it more than 1066 minutes? Yeah no, didn't think so. I wouldn't have been able to upload my pics overnight even if I I wanted to.

    I shouldn't have to get a hotel with faster wifi, just so I can upload my photos to the cloud lol. That's not my priority when looking for a hotel. How about I just get a phone with an SD card instead so I don't have to upload my photos in the first place? Seems more convenient to me.
    07-10-2015 06:45 PM
  3. Riboflavin's Avatar
    Any chance 64GB becomes the default storage of the Note 5?
    07-10-2015 06:50 PM
  4. calicocat2010's Avatar
    Well you do know that your carrier has access to all your phone numbers and text messages, and possible know everything you download on their network, which could be worst than them having access to your pictures and music. I don't see that comparison as much different. It will truly be hard to hide all your personal information from the companies that manage them, but I would trust that they will not do anything with them.

    I am also pretty sure password protecting your SD cards will not prevent hackers from getting in. If you go into "My Files" on your phone, anyone can access the "ext_card" folder without the need for a password
    Well IF the My Files App is Locked due to some apps having that feature then No, Not anyone can access the "ext_card" unless they had the app lock password.

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    07-10-2015 09:37 PM
  5. Adawg1203's Avatar
    Cloud services are 100% toilet for regular use w/o ubiquitous wifi. And without a reliable network connection, the cloud service becomes useless. Meanwhile, you can always retrieve from physical storage barring a physical defect. They're better for backup, not for access.
    What if you use multiple devices? Someone may have a work/personal cell or just multiple cells, tablet and computer. If you use the cloud for storing photo's, video's, and data then accessing that service will be all you need to view your information no matter which device you are using. What if you decide to move from a Samsung device to LG or HTC or some other brand? You can use the SD card but you are going to want to format it. Therefore, the photos on that card need to be offloaded to another medium like a computer.

    If you only use one device in your life then sure having just that device's internal storage plus an SD card will suffice. Truth be told in this day and age you can always retrieve your cloud info. I have Verizon Wireless service, FIOS at home, reliable internet at work, and when I travel I always have service (in my hotels) so how common is it NOT to have a reliable connection these days for an extended period of time???
    07-11-2015 03:12 AM
  6. Adawg1203's Avatar
    That's the thing though, it's an unnecessary step to download files when files can be easily be stored and retrieved locally via SD card. I fly a lot for business, and it's way convenient to kill time watching a 2 hr movie on my phone; I can't do that if my movies are stored in the cloud.
    Backing up to the cloud does not mean you have to delete any local copies. So if your device does not have an SD card you would store your movie on the internal drive. In turn, that movie along with photo's could be backed up in the cloud so if you ever get to the point where space is becoming a problem then delete the larger files with confidence knowing they are stored elsewhere. It's easier than you might think.
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    07-11-2015 03:25 AM
  7. Adawg1203's Avatar
    Trust me, I understand where you coming from as well. It just makes sense to me to have that option available to users of the note 5. So what does it mean for the SD card business if they force everything to the cloud? Well I see the need to have more reliable data and at some point we will all need to have unlimited data plans since Wifi is not always trusted and available.
    The days may be numbered for SD cards however devices will continue to contain internal storage which is more reliable anyway. Like someone posted it is a more expensive option at this point.

    I do not view cloud services as SD card replacements. Expanded internal device storage will ultimately replace SD cards. The cloud will be incorporated into our lives for remote access, sharing, and backup. Everyone is using cloud service today, most notably in the form of contacts. When we purchase a new device isn't all of our contact information available? Nothing additional needed to be done other than put in gmail infomation. Cloud technology services is the future and will eventually change how we do some things today.
    07-11-2015 03:50 AM
  8. Adawg1203's Avatar
    I took 1300+ pictures this 4th of July weekend, using over 8 GB of data (and that's not including the videos I took). Where and how am I supposed to upload these pictures to the cloud? Obviously I can't use my carrier's data plan because I'd be using all my data quickly. And my hotel room's free wifi only had a 0.1 Mbps upload speed. Do you know how long it would take to upload 8 GB of data at 0.1 Mbps?
    I think it is probably fair to say most people do not shoot 1300 pictures in a weekend. That said, whether you choose to use the cloud for backup or not you should still backup your work. I tend never to use my carrier data plan for moving my files. My setting is set to backup my information when the device is charging and on (my) wifi.

    The amount of photos and videos you take is not a determining factor for whether or not you should upload to the cloud. With a good connection 8gb is not a problem and like someone suggested do it overnight and it will be complete in the morning. Obviously in a hotel room with slow upload isn't the most ideal time to try and exchange data. I wouldn't even send and email at that speed. The most ideal time to transfer data is when it is most convenient for YOU and when you have a broadband connection that isn't going to time out....
    07-11-2015 04:07 AM
  9. Cool Jeff's Avatar
    I invested on a 64gb Class 10 Turbo card not to throw it in the trash bin, enough said!
    07-11-2015 05:00 AM
  10. Adawg1203's Avatar
    How many minutes are in an 8-hour night? Is it more than 1066 minutes? Yeah no, didn't think so. I wouldn't have been able to upload my pics overnight even if I I wanted to.

    I shouldn't have to get a hotel with faster wifi, just so I can upload my photos to the cloud lol. That's not my priority when looking for a hotel. How about I just get a phone with an SD card instead so I don't have to upload my photos in the first place? Seems more convenient to me.

    Even if you had a phone without an sd card you wouldn't have to upload your photos. They would save to the internal hard drive. The cloud is there to save information to that you may not necessarily want to keep on your local storage drive. Or you may want to keep the data on your local drive but use the cloud for backup. The convenience is with the cloud as you have way more options available to you. that said, using the cloud is not for everyone.
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    07-11-2015 05:00 AM
  11. phone-a-holic's Avatar
    What if you use multiple devices? Someone may have a work/personal cell or just multiple cells, tablet and computer. If you use the cloud for storing photo's, video's, and data then accessing that service will be all you need to view your information no matter which device you are using. What if you decide to move from a Samsung device to LG or HTC or some other brand? You can use the SD card but you are going to want to format it. Therefore, the photos on that card need to be offloaded to another medium like a computer.

    If you only use one device in your life then sure having just that device's internal storage plus an SD card will suffice. Truth be told in this day and age you can always retrieve your cloud info. I have Verizon Wireless service, FIOS at home, reliable internet at work, and when I travel I always have service (in my hotels) so how common is it NOT to have a reliable connection these days for an extended period of time???
    Actually it is quite common especially in rural georgia
    07-11-2015 06:39 AM
  12. phone-a-holic's Avatar
    The days may be numbered for SD cards however devices will continue to contain internal storage which is more reliable anyway. Like someone posted it is a more expensive option at this point.

    I do not view cloud services as SD card replacements. Expanded internal device storage will ultimately replace SD cards. The cloud will be incorporated into our lives for remote access, sharing, and backup. Everyone is using cloud service today, most notably in the form of contacts. When we purchase a new device isn't all of our contact information available? Nothing additional needed to be done other than put in gmail infomation. Cloud technology services is the future and will eventually change how we do some things today.
    Nope I don't store info on the cloud
    07-11-2015 06:41 AM
  13. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    How many minutes are in an 8-hour night? Is it more than 1066 minutes? Yeah no, didn't think so. I wouldn't have been able to upload my pics overnight even if I I wanted to.

    I shouldn't have to get a hotel with faster wifi, just so I can upload my photos to the cloud lol. That's not my priority when looking for a hotel. How about I just get a phone with an SD card instead so I don't have to upload my photos in the first place? Seems more convenient to me.
    SD Card is more convenient at that time yes, but, I think its pretty dumb to keep everything on the SD card without backing it up somewhere else. You don't have to back it up at the hotel, you can wait until you get to better service.

    Trust me, I was like you at first, saying that cloud is not what I need, or its not convenient, but once I tried it, it was like wow this is pretty useful. All I'm saying is that its better to backup you photos somewhere rather than leaving them on your SD Card. Cloud is the most convenient service for that
    07-11-2015 06:54 AM
  14. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Well IF the My Files App is Locked due to some apps having that feature then No, Not anyone can access the "ext_card" unless they had the app lock password.

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    Well that maybe true. I have never used an app like that so it could be possible its locked. I probably wouldn't trust it 100% though
    07-11-2015 06:58 AM
  15. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Nope I don't store info on the cloud
    Your carrier still has your contact information, phone numbers, and texts messages whether you save them on the cloud or not, so I think the privacy argument is weak for cloud services
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    07-11-2015 07:00 AM
  16. Sammuel1973's Avatar
    I just still prefer sd card cuz it's way more convenient, cheaper, and I can access my saved files anywhere, anytime. As for backing up files, I do see the benefit of the cloud and external drives. To me, it's all about quick easy access.
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    07-11-2015 04:18 PM
  17. dss2000's Avatar
    If recent report are true then no, it will not have expandable storage or removable battery. Which makes me very sad and upset

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonke...leaked-images/

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    I don't get it? Those images are with a phone case. How can you tell if the back is removable or not?

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    07-11-2015 04:26 PM
  18. Neo_ii_Droid's Avatar
    07-11-2015 10:59 PM
  19. calicocat2010's Avatar
    I did. The fact still remains Samsung is going to shake up Again both the consumer's choice and faith once more if they Don't start listening to them about KEEPING the 2 most important features on the new Note 5.
    07-12-2015 12:12 AM
  20. Aflaaaak's Avatar
    I could have and have lived without both but if I had to choose just one I'd prefer an sdcard. I have a few external chargers that get me through times I'm away from an outlet. I'd even rather have a premium one piece device rather then a removable battery if both couldn't be accomplished.
    If the choice was SD card or the battery, I'm with you on the SD card...using the cloud to store photos/video is a pain! As far as no removable battery, if you upgrade every couple years, no biggie. But if you keep your phone a while, it's nice to be able to pop in a new battery when the old one stops taking a charge.
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    07-12-2015 08:24 AM
  21. Cool Jeff's Avatar
    Another month before we get more serious specs leaks...finger crossed
    07-12-2015 08:50 AM
  22. soldier45's Avatar
    Will the removable battery and no micro sd card kill it for you? It will for me. Guess we will find out a month from now..
    07-12-2015 10:43 AM
  23. D Android's Avatar
    It will for me too. I get a feeling that Note 4 will be the last great phone from Samsung, only time will tell.
    07-12-2015 11:05 AM
  24. dmateo's Avatar
    I just ordered my note 4 yesterday. Sitting tight until next spring/summer to see what direction Samsung is going in. After nearly 10 years of using their phones I'd hate to switch brands.

    The lack of external battery and sd card is definitely a deal breaker

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    07-12-2015 11:06 AM
  25. sweetypie31's Avatar
    Not for me. If Samsung can manage to make the note 5 better than the 4 then I can deal with losing a removable battery and SD card. I would miss not having expandable storage, but I would be OK without it.
    07-12-2015 11:21 AM
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