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  1. dcstuntman's Avatar
    My Note 2 (from December 2012) is still running with its original battery and it holds a charge just fine.
    That's pretty impressive. Some people get lucky, I guess.

    Though it may be the difference of holding a charge "fine" and a holding a charge/lasting like new. It happens so gradual that sometimes you don't even notice.

    Most rechargable batteries exhibit the effect of lower capacity (right term?) after so many cycles. I think my eneloop AA's say something like they're rated for 500 cycles. Not sure about phone battery tech - but if its similar, and you're charging once a day that means you could expect diminished capacity after about a year and a half. Depending on your usage - you may not notice it... but extremely heavy users (who charge more often = more recharge cycles than typical) could see this sooner, and be more noticable that their device doesn't get them through a full day's work anymore.
    08-17-2015 04:43 PM
  2. Mago27's Avatar
    I was a Samsung fan too, owning most their flagship: Galaxy S1, S4, Note 2, I need a new phone this year, but is very unlikely to be another samsung.

    The issue with micro SD is somthing I can deal, thera are lots of USB-OTG options for storage, plus 32 GB is enough for me, no big deal the lack of SD.

    But there are an big issue with the S6/S6e their NON-REMOVABLE Battey also IS'NT SERVICEABLE, which means asap the battey dies, the phone dies, no matter the condition of the LCS, Electronics, System Updates, you can not replace the S6/S6e battery neither seems possible at service centre, other devices with fixed battery allow an moderated skilled technician to replace the battery with std tools, not the case of the S6, so basically you are buying a phone programmed to die.

    Still no reports on the Serviceablility of the Note 5's battery, once I read about I'll decide to give another chance to Samsung or sitch to an 2015 Nexus.
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    08-17-2015 05:28 PM
  3. jim2112's Avatar
    Another variable is the signal strength of the local phone tower. If a person lives close to a tower and gets a strong signal, their phone battery will last much longer. A weak phone signal will cause a much faster battery drain. This is another reason removable battery is a good idea. If you have a weak signal where you live or work, then you may need to charge it a few times per day if you use it a lot. I have noticed a weaker signal in many area's I have been lately. I thought it was the phone, but it's the local signal. That said, with Verizon charging full price for all new phones and not subsidizing phone purchases every couple years, it will become very evident to the short sighted how valuable a removable battery can be. Those claiming the Note 5 is a much better phone than another can not possibly know until it has been on the market a while.
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    08-17-2015 07:41 PM
  4. xcalibur1011's Avatar
    Just to keep things into perspective. There are 2 groups of people. We as humans don't want to believe that this is us, but it IS us. Even me!

    1) They love everything. They try to defend the most horrific changes to the device, sometimes make up reasons why its better.. "A smaller batter is more heat efficient and this will give you more screen time...."?!?!?! These are the people who don't realize theiy are doing it as much. I fall into this category. I personally like the Note 5. Sure its not everything to everyone, but the 3 biggest issues are certainly not "deal breakers" for me. I can easily live without them... of course we are all different.

    2) they hate everything, the next thing is going to suck compared to the last thing. The term "deal breaker" is tossed around a lot along with over exaggerated reactions to minor flaws... even now in your head you just went "I don't consider the Ir blaster to be a "minor flaw!" This is traditionally followed by the grander philosophical reference to the end of life as we know it, or at the very least to the company who brought out the offending device.

    This happens every time a new device comes out.... case in point.. some thread titles from previous devices first few days....

    Note 4
    - Note 4 Samsung's feel cheap & are bloated......
    - Note 4 Deal Makers and Breakers?
    - Note 4 Underwhelmed after the reveal
    - Note 4 Anyone else underwhelmed?
    - Note 4 Again 5.7inch?
    - Note 4 Disappointed with the camera improvements?

    We will learn to accept the limitations of the device, or we will learn to use another brand device. In my case, so long as it has an S-Pen I will be in. I can't leave it, so they can do whatever they want to it, and I will be there.
    Took the words right out of my mouth. I had the LG G2 which didn't have a removable battery or sd card. People said that is was a underrated device.
    08-17-2015 08:40 PM
  5. cybertec69's Avatar
    If you don't need a removable battery or expandable storage then the Note 5 is a great choice. Other than the two things I mentioned, it's better than the Note 4 pretty much across the board
    Better than the Note 4 across the board, stop inhaling the funny gas, LOL.

    Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
    08-17-2015 09:05 PM
  6. knighthawk321's Avatar
    All this hooraw about everything streaming from the cloud so we don't need expandable storage neglects one major point. Not everyone has the unlimited data plan necessary to make such an idea work. Most of us have limited data, which, if we exceed those limits, costs a significant fee. Until they bring back unlimited data plans, or we all get rich, expandable storage has its place.
    08-17-2015 09:05 PM
  7. cybertec69's Avatar
    Do you guys think it will be worth going from the Note 3 to the 5? I see a lot want to stay with the 4. I think my N3 is getting on it's final legs here soon (having trouble receiving text messages among other things)

    Not having a removable battery and no SD slot makes no difference to me as I never used the extra storage and I never use more than the 1 battery

    Also If I make the move this weekend, I would have to go on Verizon's device payment plan (or whatever the heck it's called now)..or I can wait until February when my contract is up. Is this phone worth going on that plan you think?
    You can get an almost new Note 4 for what you would pay for a Note 5 on a new two year contract $300 initial payment and $20 payments each month for another 2 years, and you would be tied down for another two years. This is where I got my new Note 4, www.swappa.com , never buy a device when it is first released, wait for the reviews and bugs to be sorted out, and in 6 month's time it can be had for a fraction of the cost, a smartphone is like a car, it loses value real quick. You will not be disappointed with the Note 4, which is still a great device, sorry but the a Note 5 is not $400 better than the Note 4, because that is how much more you would be paying for the a Note 5, and with the Note 4 you have more options just like you have with your Note 3.

    Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
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    08-17-2015 09:11 PM
  8. Ry's Avatar
    All this hooraw about everything streaming from the cloud so we don't need expandable storage neglects one major point. Not everyone has the unlimited data plan necessary to make such an idea work. Most of us have limited data, which, if we exceed those limits, costs a significant fee. Until they bring back unlimited data plans, or we all get rich, expandable storage has its place.
    Sounds like a few are already making that point.

    Thing is, don't buy it if it doesn't have what you need.

    But know your reasons for not buying it may not matter to the people that will buy it.

    Posted via Android Central App (Moto X)
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    08-17-2015 09:15 PM
  9. rushmore's Avatar
    Another variable is the signal strength of the local phone tower. If a person lives close to a tower and gets a strong signal, their phone battery will last much longer. A weak phone signal will cause a much faster battery drain. This is another reason removable battery is a good idea. If you have a weak signal where you live or work, then you may need to charge it a few times per day if you use it a lot. I have noticed a weaker signal in many area's I have been lately. I thought it was the phone, but it's the local signal. That said, with Verizon charging full price for all new phones and not subsidizing phone purchases every couple years, it will become very evident to the short sighted how valuable a removable battery can be. Those claiming the Note 5 is a much better phone than another can not possibly know until it has been on the market a while.
    Rationalizing to people that use their own standards as litmus for everyone else is futile. The Cult of the Cardless are a new brand of tyranny. Freeeeeddduuuummm!
    08-17-2015 09:39 PM
  10. rushmore's Avatar
    Better than the Note 4 across the board, stop inhaling the funny gas, LOL.

    Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
    And you appear to be inhaling crack magnet glass
    08-17-2015 09:41 PM
  11. cybertec69's Avatar
    And you appear to be inhaling crack magnet glass
    We can go back and forth with this, but I don't have time to argue with a child.

    Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
    08-17-2015 09:45 PM
  12. Aquila's Avatar
    Moderator Note: No we can't do this. It is time to stop.

    sent via Nexus Assassin Edition. Gonfaloniere.
    08-17-2015 09:47 PM
  13. robertopod1968's Avatar
    I was a Samsung fan too, owning most their flagship: Galaxy S1, S4, Note 2, I need a new phone this year, but is very unlikely to be another samsung.

    The issue with micro SD is somthing I can deal, thera are lots of USB-OTG options for storage, plus 32 GB is enough for me, no big deal the lack of SD.

    But there are an big issue with the S6/S6e their NON-REMOVABLE Battey also IS'NT SERVICEABLE, which means asap the battey dies, the phone dies, no matter the condition of the LCS, Electronics, System Updates, you can not replace the S6/S6e battery neither seems possible at service centre, other devices with fixed battery allow an moderated skilled technician to replace the battery with std tools, not the case of the S6, so basically you are buying a phone programmed to die.

    Still no reports on the Serviceablility of the Note 5's battery, once I read about I'll decide to give another chance to Samsung or sitch to an 2015 Nexus.
    The battery will be replaceable. You don't have to throw the phone away if anything ever does go wrong with it. Any repair shop will be able to swap it out for you in probably 20 minutes. Drop it off. Get some lunch and bam...a new battery. No. Not quite as fast as user replaceable. But not the end of the phone
    08-17-2015 10:21 PM
  14. UJ95x's Avatar
    Better than the Note 4 across the board, stop inhaling the funny gas, LOL.

    Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
    I own a Note 4, and I have no problem admitting that. Like I said, if you don't need the removable battery and expandable storage, the 5 is better, even if only a little bit. The S6 camera and display were already better than the Note 4, and I expect some improvements on both of those for the Note. The battery is slightly smaller, but with more efficient hardware, it should be similar if not slightly better. Users with it are already reporting 6-7 hours of SoT on it. It also charges faster, both wired and non-wired, and is more ergonomic.
    08-17-2015 10:37 PM
  15. tadpoles's Avatar
    I was a Samsung fan too, owning most their flagship: Galaxy S1, S4, Note 2, I need a new phone this year, but is very unlikely to be another samsung.

    The issue with micro SD is somthing I can deal, thera are lots of USB-OTG options for storage, plus 32 GB is enough for me, no big deal the lack of SD.

    But there are an big issue with the S6/S6e their NON-REMOVABLE Battey also IS'NT SERVICEABLE, which means asap the battey dies, the phone dies, no matter the condition of the LCS, Electronics, System Updates, you can not replace the S6/S6e battery neither seems possible at service centre, other devices with fixed battery allow an moderated skilled technician to replace the battery with std tools, not the case of the S6, so basically you are buying a phone programmed to die.

    Still no reports on the Serviceablility of the Note 5's battery, once I read about I'll decide to give another chance to Samsung or sitch to an 2015 Nexus.
    I've read folks saying that their local shop CAN replace a degraded battery. I'm trying not to be bummed about it but since my Note 4 is in almost-new condition it doesn't really matter.

    from my old nexus 5
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    08-17-2015 11:17 PM
  16. UJ95x's Avatar
    I've read folks saying that their local shop CAN replace a degraded battery. I'm trying not to be bummed about it but since my Note 4 is in almost-new condition it doesn't really matter.

    from my old nexus 5
    I think I remember something from the S6 user manual showing that the battery was fairly easy to replace (for it being a sealed battery). iFixit's tear down should show how easy it is to replace a battery. Either way, a battery doesn't degrade TOO much. Mine has been getting pretty much the same battery life after 6 months of heavy use from me (and I bought it refurbished)

    Sent from my Note 4 via Tapatalk
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    08-17-2015 11:22 PM
  17. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Of all the different devices I've owned over the years, the only one that had a battery go bad was the BlackBerry 9000, which had a removable battery. I got it in May 2009, and the battery died in July 2010.

    I haven't had battery issues with the Nokia Lumia 900 (from 2012), Nokia Lumia 920 (from 2012) or Moto X (from 2013). The batteries on those devices are sealed, but they all lasted longer than that of the removable BlackBerry 9000 battery.
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    08-17-2015 11:24 PM
  18. edfranco1's Avatar
    Better screen and better processor = poor battery life plus who has the time to be plugged in to a wall outlet? So much for Samsung mocking iPhone wall-huggers airport ad campaign.

    Who wants there phone opened up especially when its not being done by actual Samsung? Not me.

    Yes thats right. I just purchased the Note Edge instead of the new note 5 or edge+ and am really loving it. I think the edge screen beats the s6 and note edge plus hands down. I chose the note edge because of the most two important feature for me, the replaceable battery and SD card. I have several SD cards that i switch out because I have a real huge music collection. I help a friend DJ and bring my music files from my phone to the raves.

    YES absolutely, I am with Verizon and they charge an arm and a leg If i go over plus there data plans suck. So I do need my SD card.
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    08-18-2015 01:56 AM
  19. Adawg1203's Avatar
    Do you guys think it will be worth going from the Note 3 to the 5? I see a lot want to stay with the 4. I think my N3 is getting on it's final legs here soon (having trouble receiving text messages among other things)

    Not having a removable battery and no SD slot makes no difference to me as I never used the extra storage and I never use more than the 1 battery

    Also If I make the move this weekend, I would have to go on Verizon's device payment plan (or whatever the heck it's called now)..or I can wait until February when my contract is up. Is this phone worth going on that plan you think?
    The note 5 in my view feels better, looks better (subjective), and is faster than the Note 4. Did I forget lighter? The 5 certainly feels like an upgrade over the 4, as it will coming from the Note 3 which I also use. I have in my possession Note 3, Note 4 and note 5. Hands down my favorite of the trio is, the Note 5.

    There are many detractors who will tell you to go with the Note 4. They don't own a note 5 nor have any intentions of purchasing one, but feel compelled to offer advice trying to steer people away from the Note 5 based on personal assumptions with zero facts. This is mostly because they can't get passed the fact Samsung removed the SD slot and sealed the battery. Their goal now is to try and lure as many people from purchasing the Note 5 to hurt sales as much as possible, hoping this will send some kind of message to Samsung. Just read the different threads and you will see.

    End of the day the choice is yours regardless of the differing opinions. It's your money spend it on what YOU want and not on what someone else tells you. That includes me
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    08-18-2015 03:56 AM
  20. monsieurms's Avatar
    We will learn to accept the limitations of the device, or we will learn to use another brand device. .
    I don't think there are really only 2 groups =-love everything or hate everything. Life and computers are far more complicated than that.

    But in any event, when you say "we will learn to accept the limitations of the device, or will learn to use another brand device," that I fully agree with. Indirectly, that last half there is what some of are trying to explain to Samsung. Whether being vocal helps or it's voting with dollars on next upgrade.
    08-18-2015 04:23 AM
  21. worwig's Avatar
    Whether being vocal helps or it's voting with dollars on next upgrade.
    I have had an SD card in my phones for many many years. I use it as a GPS, so I have a lot of offline maps, plus music, and photos. I travel often and having EVERYTHING offline is very useful. My Note 4 does so much, and carries so much on board, it is almost boring. No struggles or hassles, it is just all there.
    And no, an OTG cable with a memory card will NOT work. You can't CHARGE the phone running the GPS, while using the OTG cable.
    When I am ready for a switch, my dollars will have to go to a device with an internal SD card slot. (or a cheap 128GB unit, which isn't going to happen)
    08-18-2015 07:17 AM
  22. Almeuit's Avatar
    Better screen and better processor = poor battery life plus who has the time to be plugged in to a wall outlet? So much for Samsung mocking iPhone wall-huggers airport ad campaign.

    Who wants there phone opened up especially when its not being done by actual Samsung? Not me.

    Yes thats right. I just purchased the Note Edge instead of the new note 5 or edge+ and am really loving it. I think the edge screen beats the s6 and note edge plus hands down. I chose the note edge because of the most two important feature for me, the replaceable battery and SD card. I have several SD cards that i switch out because I have a real huge music collection. I help a friend DJ and bring my music files from my phone to the raves.

    YES absolutely, I am with Verizon and they charge an arm and a leg If i go over plus there data plans suck. So I do need my SD card.
    Can you please quote who you're talking to when responding? I can tell you mean someone but it gets confusing when you just post replying to them and do not quote them.
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    08-18-2015 09:05 AM
  23. syspry's Avatar
    All SD card arguments for either side of the debate in this thread are henceforth rendered moot by how much the 64GB model of this phone is going to cost. Dang! I could almost buy the new Moto X outright for what my carrier is going to charge on a subsidy
    Joking aside, I just don't see any value here for an S Pen and OIS camera.
    08-18-2015 09:13 AM
  24. toenail_flicker's Avatar
    Smaller battery, but better. I'm averaging about 2 hours more of on screen time than I get with my note 4. On pace for 20 hours and 7-1/2 hours screen time. For me the battery is a non-issue now. I normally on have about 4-5 hours screen on so it should last 30 hours or more.[/url]
    What about in a year when one of the cells go bad and the bloated battery cracks your case back, and your phone doesn't work, and you can't change the battery out? Options are new phone at full price, refurb phone, or no phone.

    I use my Note 3 for business and I'm waiting for my Note 4 to arrive. These were some of my considerations before deciding to pass on the Note 5. After seeing the the drop test results for the glass back, I am glad I passed on it.
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    08-18-2015 10:30 AM
  25. Almeuit's Avatar
    What about in a year when one of the cells go bad and the bloated battery cracks your case back, and your phone doesn't work, and you can't change the battery out? Options are new phone at full price, refurb phone, or no phone.
    You make this sound like it is a guarantee to happen when it definitely isn't.
    Laura Knotek, Aquila and Adawg1203 like this.
    08-18-2015 10:32 AM
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