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  1. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Idk why some people talk about other markets having SD Cards so the U.S. should have them
    The mobile market in the U.S. is probably one of the most technologically advanced, and in the U.S. soon im sure will be a mostly wireless country
    Some cities have free city-wide wifi, and cars now have wifi. I'm sure in the future Wifi would be accessible almost anywhere for free even walking in the park or shopping in a grocery market. You guys might as well get used to this now while its fresh
    08-16-2015 11:38 PM
  2. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    If you ask me, I prefer choice.

    The perfect phone for me will have large amounts of fast internal storage while also having an optional SD card slot if you happen to be like me and store lots of media on your phone.

    Frankly, I like choice, but it seems to be a rarity now.
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    08-17-2015 01:45 AM
  3. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    Idk why some people talk about other markets having SD Cards so the U.S. should have them
    The mobile market in the U.S. is probably one of the most technologically advanced, and in the U.S. soon im sure will be a mostly wireless country
    Some cities have free city-wide wifi, and cars now have wifi. I'm sure in the future Wifi would be accessible almost anywhere for free even walking in the park or shopping in a grocery market. You guys might as well get used to this now while its fresh
    Well that's not really how it is here. There are lots of places that have wifi, but there are more that don't and plenty of areas that never will. It's a great big country with hundreds of miles of wide open areas

    Posted from my Samsung S6 Active
    08-17-2015 03:08 AM
  4. cybertec69's Avatar
    Also keep in mind that the primary uses for SD cards is not smart phones. They are used more in photography and more traditional personal computers and have some strong relevance in those areas.

    sent via Nexus Assassin Edition. Gonfaloniere.
    The smartphone is a mini personal computer with a camera.

    Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
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    08-17-2015 04:38 AM
  5. cybertec69's Avatar
    Don't believe for a second these manufacturers BS, it's more cloud storage they are trying to sell you, and they are in cahoots with the telcos who are trying to sell you more data, they all work together, if you don't think that is the case, then you have been sleeping under a rock.

    Sent from my SM-N910V using Tapatalk
    08-17-2015 04:41 AM
  6. CehowardNote7's Avatar
    That is why I am staying with the Note 4. I have a ton of FLAC files,movies and pictures on my 128gb SD car will goto the 200gb as soon as price goes down. Plus I ALWAYS have a spare fully charged battery with me, I feel naked without out one. On long trips I carry 2 spares!
    08-17-2015 06:50 AM
  7. JaxChris's Avatar
    You may think that the US is first in wireless technology, and I wish it were true, but you would be incorrect. The US has a big problem with land mass getting in the way of wide-scale rollouts.

    S. Korea is currently number one in wireless and broadband technology. Their bandwidth speeds on every carrier outpace our best carriers here in the US, wireless or not (Google Fiber doesn't count because they don't cover a majority of any city they have entered yet). Western Europe would be 2nd place. Though they are tortured with usage caps, VAT & horrible utility-tax based pricing systems the EuroZone does have a marketplace which removes phones from the carriers control.

    Here in the US we have carriers that have systematically removed features and choices from their customers. Those of us that have been technophiles the longest remember there used to be FM chips in most phones, removable storage and replaceable batteries. There were even stylus pens in the phones, IR transceivers and full sized applications that didn't require cloud computing. We had unlimited plans on every carrier, our privacy was respected, our lives were not mined for data and ads did not exist on our phones.

    HTC was the darling company of so many of us ubergeeks. They used to listen to us. We wanted the latest hardware feature and they provided it on the next phone. We wanted to customize our experience and they let us. Then things took a dark turn. Carriers wanted to monetize every aspect of your cellular experience. No more FM radios, no more unlimited data, starting their own craptastic services and restricting usage of other products. HTC was among the first to comply. And their marketshare dropped to companies that held out a little longer. Next HTC though they could win on style over everything else. But in doing so they abandoned the people that had trusted them since the PPC-6600. No more replaceable battery, no removable storage and all the new features we wanted were passed over in favor of a camera. Instead of that camera and metal back, they should have kept the polycarbonate unibody and added wireless charging.

    Now Samsung wants to take the same dire road. Apple tells their sheep what they want. HTC tried and got burned. Samsung wants to try it now, after years of saying they aren't Apple, and they will lose sales too.

    The market is cooling. Every major market has reached capacity. Sales will go to those companies that remember only 5% of customers upgrade every year. Everyone else wants phones that will last. And a big part of making phones that last is making them as user friendly to maintain and upgrade. It is sad that the article tries to contrast phones & desktops, as that person too probably doesn't do enough homework to see that tablets are dying in favor of people wanting really computers again. This has spurred a stabilization in desktop sales and a hotter market in laptop/convertible PC sales.

    HTC is dead until they get back into offering every possible feature again. Samsung is turning down the same road. Sony died long ago. LG has some hope, if they get into the 6" market. And even Moto is as risk after Google flipped them like a bad house.

    Maybe a new champion of consumers, choice & longevity will step up from the shadows. Until then, watch for a lot more people to sit on the device they have because nothing new will offer the options and features of what they once had.
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    08-17-2015 07:08 AM
  8. sant_r's Avatar
    why do you think Apple sells so much? yes, there are advantages to their ecosystem, but they sell because of their brand. it's like a cult. people feel better by having their products and love how they feel and look. They WANT to get their new phone, wait in lines and get excited. Even if the improvements are very small, they will keep buying. 1GB ram? less than 2000 mAh of battery? who cares? they don't. Samsung may be loosing its true hardcore fans, but more people will probably buy their products because they look nicer and feel nicer. I have the sgs6, and I don't like the battery life and wish the battery wasn't sealed. However, I love how this phone looks and feels. I enjoy looking and it and using it. That on top of excellent specs, makes for a very good phone. They will have to increase the battery size, and they probably will try to come up with a way of making the battery removable. But, they had to take a risk on this phone. People have to understand that they can't do ALL in one iteration. Yes, change how it looks to glass, then make battery removable and curved screen and faster processor, and faster memory and way better camera in less than a year. LOL. They had to pick one, and picked what appeals to most people: a phone that looks great, feels great and has awesome specs. To the people complaining about the Note 5, yes, it has the same processor as the SGS6 because they released it only 3/4 months after they released the S6. Do you think they can develop a processor that fast? they were likely working on both at the same time.
    08-17-2015 07:44 AM
  9. wvtarheel's Avatar
    I have gone back and forth on this issue because I love my sd card and swapping batteries just like all of you.

    However, the people demanding these features stay in the phones aren't "power users," they are just afraid of change. I had the same feelings and only through a lot of introspection did I realize I was being silly by being upset that these features were gone.

    Wireless quick charging available in all your furniture at home, at work, your car, and public spaces is coming fast. Android doze will increase your pocket time immensely. Free WiFi everywhere is almost a reality in the usa. Cloud storage works fine if you have free WiFi.

    Samsung's cellular business is based on great hardware and innovation. The Note 5 is continuing that trend, but it is doing it by cutting features from yesterday. Does it **** me off? Yeah, I have 30 gb of video on my sd card and nowhere to put it except the cloud. But that is how all phones will store most data in ten years or less. You might as well get on board now

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    08-17-2015 07:59 AM
  10. benjamminh's Avatar
    How many times has Google touted that their new operating system will improve battery life and on most devices it gets worse? I hope doze will be the exception.
    08-17-2015 08:05 AM
  11. wvtarheel's Avatar
    Even if doze isn't that big of a deal, the wireless charging revolution is going to drastically change the battery situation for many many people. Sure there will be individuals whose jobs take them away from a desk and away from a car. People like that will need a swappable battery OR a bigger battery like the S6 active, the droid max, etc. But for many users, anywhere you set your phone is going to charge it.

    And my point is not that you shouldn't get mad. I was a little upset too because I enjoy my swappable battery. My point is that this is the future of technology and until there is a big change in battery tech, this is how mobile devices will function.
    08-17-2015 08:19 AM
  12. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Know what's the real charging revolution for me?

    When your phone can harness the power of the sun to last practically forever as long as you have sunlight and enough charge for the night. :P

    If someone can do that, I'll wave goodbye to my box of microUSB cables! xD
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    08-17-2015 08:22 AM
  13. davem2421's Avatar
    what cracks me up is the iphone has never had SD card storage and nobody cares yet samsung moves in that direction and they aren't listening to the customers and on the losing side. I for one, don't really care, with SD cards comes another point of failure. yeah I may have more "local" storage but what happens when that SD card crashes? it happens.... also, people don't realize that you can't put a cheap SD card in a device and expect it to run smoothly that then gives the impression that there is something wrong with the phone when trying to access pictures from the SD card and it's taking longer than normal.
    08-17-2015 08:44 AM
  14. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    what cracks me up is the iphone has never had SD card storage and nobody cares yet samsung moves in that direction and they aren't listening to the customers and on the losing side. I for one, don't really care, with SD cards comes another point of failure. yeah I may have more "local" storage but what happens when that SD card crashes? it happens.... also, people don't realize that you can't put a cheap SD card in a device and expect it to run smoothly that then gives the impression that there is something wrong with the phone when trying to access pictures from the SD card and it's taking longer than normal.
    Anyone who uses any form of storage should know that you should ALWAYS make backups. ALWAYS.

    Either on another SD card, an external hard-drive, your PC or the cloud. If your phone takes a swim, that SD card fails or whatever tragedy happens to your phone, you're gonna want a backup.

    I use a Class 10 UHS-I 128GB SanDisk Ultra on my LG G4 and have yet to experience any slowdowns. Just something to point out.
    08-17-2015 08:52 AM
  15. Rocketman88's Avatar
    I don't mind having the cloud as an option, I do, however resent being forced to use nothing but the cloud. One, it uses data, something that most of us have to pay for. Two, if I am either on a flight, or someplace else where my data connection is weak, I cannot access the cloud. My movies and such that I store on my SD are with me wherever I am, whenever I want them, with no buffer delays, no having to to stream it and burn up my data plan.

    So, yes, the cloud is awesome, and I have a huge harddrive at my house I have cloud access to, but I prefer to not be forced into using it. It would be like buying a car, and this years new, improved model only has 2 gallons of fuel in it, but the manuacturer tells me, it's awesome, and rememeber, you can always just stop and keep refilling the gas tank.
    08-17-2015 09:00 AM
  16. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    I have gone back and forth on this issue because I love my sd card and swapping batteries just like all of you.

    However, the people demanding these features stay in the phones aren't "power users," they are just afraid of change. I had the same feelings and only through a lot of introspection did I realize I was being silly by being upset that these features were gone.

    Wireless quick charging available in all your furniture at home, at work, your car, and public spaces is coming fast. Android doze will increase your pocket time immensely. Free WiFi everywhere is almost a reality in the usa. Cloud storage works fine if you have free WiFi.

    Samsung's cellular business is based on great hardware and innovation. The Note 5 is continuing that trend, but it is doing it by cutting features from yesterday. Does it **** me off? Yeah, I have 30 gb of video on my sd card and nowhere to put it except the cloud. But that is how all phones will store most data in ten years or less. You might as well get on board now

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    I'm not afraid of change when it comes to removable batteries and SD cards.

    I had the m8 prior to my Active.

    What I can tell you is even with a bigger battery and the largest amount of internal memory, it still isn't as acceptable as a large removable battery and a 128 gig SD card.

    It's about settling for most people. I am not alright in this because I am not 100 % satisfied with my devices, I am getting by until one can fulfill my needs with the latest and best technology on board for me. I chose the Active because it is a ruggedized phone that I need,that doesn't mean I would chose it if these needs weren't there.

    The reason why most people are upset is because Samsung gimped the phone for many people's needs,and aren't releasing it in Europe now.

    I am sure folks can get by with the n5, but why should they have to just get by?

    The Notes have always been the best at giving power users the top of the line equipment in a complete package, and now someone has convinced them to take the line in a 180 degree shift to mimic Apple's iPhone and they are going to find out just how fickle Android users really are. They don't have Apple's herds waiting to gobble up everything Apple produces. A Note regardless of what some think of it is not and never will be a viable substitute for a iPhone to the Apple herd .

    Again this misguided attempt to make the Note a s6 with a pen a failure to understand just how loyal Apple's fanbase really is, and mad the majority of long time Note users really are.

    When you strip away features that propelled the phone's acceptance you alienate the core users and they will seek out other phones to fulfill their needs and wants.

    Posted from my Samsung S6 Active
    08-17-2015 09:11 AM
  17. Dr Claw's Avatar
    The mobile market in the U.S. is probably one of the most technologically advanced, and in the U.S. soon im sure will be a mostly wireless country
    L O L

    When this happens, pigs will actually fly. I actually think the U.S. mobile market, with its clinging to CDMA technology among other things, is behind the rest of the world. Not to mention the whole "carrier" dynamic, while it gets more phones into more hands, also gets in the way of a phone manufacturer's ability to deliver bugfixes and system updates, with all the bootloader locking and bloatware.

    If the U.S. was getting ubiquitous wifi as soon as this comment made it sound, there wouldn't be as much moaning over the move to an Apple-ish "planned obsolescence" model for many Android phones. And the anxiety of streaming over "having actual physical media" wouldn't be a thing, either.

    U.S. mobile market is frankly trying to shoehorn all the customers into their new "manufactured scarcity" revenue-generating model, and the pushback is warranted IMO.
    08-17-2015 09:18 AM
  18. sup3r1or's Avatar
    Internal memory is always going to be faster than SD. I havent used SD since Galaxy S2 and I never had any issues. I rather be lag free
    08-17-2015 09:25 AM
  19. Carrtman's Avatar
    Was only a matter of time till Samsung would get their PR lied, viral marketers and hardcore fanboys up to speed.

    I couldn't care less about wireless charging and to be honest I think wired charging is more convenient because I can still use my phone while it gets charged. I'm also sick of hearing about the cloud it's not an option period . If people value privacy and the ability to not being online all the time the cloud isn't an option. I don't care if some company offers me 100 terabyte for 1 buck I still wouldn't use it.

    Google can go [language removed] itself if they think people will stop using sd cards there will always be a fix see Kit Kat.

    Samsung is alienating their productivity users by making the note 5 a bigger s6. The s5 didn't sell well because it was only a marginal upgrade would they had released the s5 prime as the s5 the story would have been different.

    Looks like the note 4 will be my last Samsung device if they want to go the sheep road so be it but that's not why I've decided to buy their pricey products at first. I also have to laugh about the notion that their tv's are top quality no they aren't if I'm looking for a non spying premium TV I'd go Loewe, Panasonic or Bank and Olufsen but for sure not Samsung or LG.

    All Samsung has accomplished this year is pissing of their loyal customers and losing them while at the same time not getting the Apple locals...reminds me a bit of BlackBerry abandoning os7 for an inferior bb10 lol
    08-17-2015 09:26 AM
  20. GrooveRite's Avatar
    Internal memory is always going to be faster than SD. I havent used SD since Galaxy S2 and I never had any issues. I rather be lag free
    I'd rather not depend on cloud or using data that is capped with my service. SD card is essential for my use!
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    08-17-2015 09:56 AM
  21. lanmansa's Avatar
    It all makes sense, except when my Galaxy S4 keeps telling me I am running out of storage space and I can't update or install any apps. I have to keep uninstalling stuff and clearing cache just to make space for something. Until they offer me 64GB as the BASE model for phone storage built-in, I'm not having any of that no-sd card nonsense.
    08-17-2015 09:58 AM
  22. mavrrick's Avatar
    The biggest killer to SD cards are the cheap knock of fake cards that are out there. They are everywhere and I have a feeling cause almost all of the poor perception of SD cards.

    As far as apple is concerned, think about what sizes they have. I think even the first iPhone had a 64GB option. Not long ago they up'd the cap to 128 GB of storage. It wasn't until recently with SD card advances that other phones have been able to exceed their capacity. I have a co-worker that had the original iphone. He kept his legacy ipod forever because of capacity. So it is a bit of a illusion to think capacity isn't a problem for them to.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    08-17-2015 09:58 AM
  23. johnmcd348's Avatar
    I have gone back and forth on this issue because I love my sd card and swapping batteries just like all of you.

    However, the people demanding these features stay in the phones aren't "power users," they are just afraid of change. I had the same feelings and only through a lot of introspection did I realize I was being silly by being upset that these features were gone.

    Wireless quick charging available in all your furniture at home, at work, your car, and public spaces is coming fast. Android doze will increase your pocket time immensely. Free WiFi everywhere is almost a reality in the usa. Cloud storage works fine if you have free WiFi.

    Samsung's cellular business is based on great hardware and innovation. The Note 5 is continuing that trend, but it is doing it by cutting features from yesterday. Does it **** me off? Yeah, I have 30 gb of video on my sd card and nowhere to put it except the cloud. But that is how all phones will store most data in ten years or less. You might as well get on board now
    That's what made me decide to go ahead and get the Note5 to replace my NOte2. After I took off a lot of the frivolous stuff of my phone and moved things like the myriad of useless photos taken, I still had 6gb of free internal storage and only used about 9gb of the 59.4gb available on my MicorSD card.

    I decided to at least, give it a try. I come from the days when a 10mb(MEGAByte) hard drive was around $3-500 and what was stored was, sometimes, quite selective. We didn't have large music files and videos, they were mostly programs(written with an eye to economy of code) and spreadsheets and documents.

    But, as storage got larger and cheaper, things began getting sloppy.

    I'm going to give teh Note5 a year to see how I do with it and if need be, I'll go to the Note4 so I can get some of those option back. Unless Samsung and Android changes their minds and we get SD support back again. I don't rely on the cloud. I've been burned WAY TOO MANY TIMES in the past, waiting on a file I have stored there to load on my phone.

    Try waiting on a Program form to load for your T-Ball team with a lot of mad T-Ball Moms staring at you and your phone while it says: Waiting on file to load........................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

    File not found.

    And it's a file you really need RIGHT NOW.

    I don't trust the cloud with things I know I'll need but things I might want later, I have no problem with. That's why I like Lots of storage.
    08-17-2015 09:59 AM
  24. Bishop_99's Avatar
    I agree there are many choices of large phones without the S pen and all it can do. The point I was making is that Samsung has listened to the hardcore gamer, movie fan, and social media aficionado and created a high end phone with cutting edge hardware and software to address this audience. Likewise they have created an improved phone for the (for want of a better descriptor) enterprise business power user who needs a device to get professional and business work done without the need of a separate device and the "road warrior" bag full of accessories for power and connection.
    So yes, if you don't want/need cutting edge technology in hardware and software then there are a number of choices.
    Hard to say they have, when it's really just a larger GS6 with an extra GB of RAM. Everything else remains the same and it is getting a limited release. The Note 4 has more features than the Note 5. Not so say that the technology used on the GS6 wasn't high end, just that the GPU and CPU weren't leaps and bounds better than the CPU and GPU of the S805. Edit a video or finish up some quick work on Photoshop, and the Note 5 is only going to finish slightly quicker than the Note 4. The same limitations are still present, they may be improved with the next SoC though. The Note 5 just seems like an after thought to the GS6 Edge+, all about the design and a really limited release.

    I really don't think a "hardcore gamer" would use their phone as a real gaming device, just a mobile device to play a quick game when they are out. Same way that a movie enthusiastic wouldn't choose to see a movie on their phone, over their home movie set up. Mainly to see their movies when they are out on long trips. It is a great device for a big time social media fan though. But even for professional users, the Note 4/5 is a great device to get something done quickly, but it doesn't match the power of a computer, it still has a long way to go.

    Which still leads me to believe that a good portion of the Note users, aren't really power users, they mainly bought it for the larger screen. Had that not been the case, I don't think we would have seen sales remain even between the Note 3 and 4, once Apple released their phablet. Sales were on the rise with every Note series until the Note 4 had the competition of the iPhone 6+. Now Samsung switched it up to it being all about the design and removing key features of the Note, and they are further alienating some of the long time Note fans.

    We'll see how it all plays out for Samsung though when the Note 5 and GS6 Edge + has to go up against the competition this fourth Quarter.
    08-17-2015 10:13 AM
  25. Funkadelick#AC's Avatar
    Worst article ever. It really doesn't matter if it's 5G or a 10000000G --- the speeds of wireless connectivity has nothing to do with why people want microSD cards. The main reason is because of storage (music, apps, pics, videos) --- you say speeds are getting faster ? Well until data costs from carriers drop DRAMATICALLY then what's the point ? Are people going to take a 300 MB video then upload it to the "cloud" ?? that will cost alot of money per data charges. Not everyone has wireless.
    08-17-2015 10:45 AM
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