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  1. Bianca Horkan's Avatar
    How can you say your needs don't really change when technology changes every year? If true, wouldn't you still be using a phone from say 2 years ago? As for extra battery, the Note 4's is extremely portable, smaller and thinner than a wallet. Imo, much more efficient and convenient than to be tethered.
    I bought the extra battery and charger for my Note 4 when I knew I was going to Star Wars Celebration (back in April). I knew outlet space would be a hot commodity and plugging in when on the convention floor would be a rarity. So, I was thinking ahead. Carrying around the extra battery was a savior.

    Standing in some of those insane lines, some times all I had to entertain myself was my phone. Of the 4 days at the convention, I swapped out the battery three times.

    Since April, I've been keeping up with the extra battery and if I know I'm going to be out (a lot) I bring it with me.

    I've also been playing Ingress since the end of June -- when I turn on the GPS/location it drains the battery faster. I turn it off when I'm not playing. So, it's nice to have an extra battery.

    When I get the Note 5, I'll probably have to invest in a good power pack.
    Sammuel1973 likes this.
    08-27-2015 02:59 PM
  2. m3lover1's Avatar
    I'm not sure why all the time on the call radio at all. First thing I would suggest is a cache wipe from recovery and see if that helps.
    Yea I'm going to try that. Thanks.
    08-27-2015 03:03 PM
  3. anon(153966)'s Avatar
    @nokia4life I don't think we can put too much resources into battery life, and the measurements of it. But, having said that, if I'm reading your chart correctly, you've had over a day of battery life, with 7 hours+ of screen time. I think that is very good.

    Lastly, when a new device is purchased, it takes about two weeks to get a good battery reading.
    08-27-2015 03:05 PM
  4. Dukins's Avatar
    This is Android, not Apple, it is highly customizable, which is why it is Android. So yes, you do have to tweak settings you want just like with computers.
    I've been with Android since the OG Droid. Matter of fact this year alone my phones were: S4, S5, Note 4 Dev Edition, Nexus 6, Moto watch, Samsung Gear S, and Note 5. Trust me I understand the custom-ability of both phones, well lack thereof on Apple LOL. I've rooted and added roms endlessly. One of the reasons I moved to Apple, I was tired of having to customize for Android to work right. I just expected better battery life with the N5.
    tanson1011 likes this.
    08-27-2015 03:11 PM
  5. nokia4life's Avatar
    Two things..

    Are you using WiFi calling?

    Do you have your WiFi to turn off when your phone screen is off?
    How do I know if Wifi calling is on? second I did not know that you could turn wifi off if the screen is asleep I will change that setting now as I found that. One reason my wifi is high is that I have been working out of my home office so my phone is on my wifi signal vs cell had I gone into my office building to work.
    08-27-2015 03:18 PM
  6. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I've been with Android since the OG Droid. Matter of fact this year alone my phones were: S4, S5, Note 4 Dev Edition, Nexus 6, Moto watch, Samsung Gear S, and Note 5. Trust me I understand the custom-ability of both phones, well lack thereof on Apple LOL. I've rooted and added roms endlessly. One of the reasons I moved to Apple, I was tired of having to customize for Android to work right. I just expected better battery life with the N5.
    Customization and freedom of choice is why most people that use Android, use Android. My battery life has been good, but you also know that you have ro give it a few days to settle in and even if our phones were set up the same and we used them the same, our battery life could be different due to phone signal strength, and other issues, sometimes even carrier.

    Having the ability to customize, also means we have to customize for what we want

    I've had to use an iPhone before, set it up in 5 mins, was wonderful. But.. I then spent countless hours trying to do in iPhone what I could do on Android with one tap, maybe two.
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    08-27-2015 03:19 PM
  7. Coney718's Avatar
    This is Android, not Apple, it is highly customizable, which is why it is Android. So yes, you do have to tweak settings you want just like with computers.
    Yes you're right Android is great for customizing and tweaking but that should be optional. You shouldn't HAVE to make all these adjustments just to get decent battery life. Especially on a top of the line flagship device. A device like the Note, which has always been aimed at power users and business professionals the battery should last at least a full day out of the box. You should only have to perform these tweaks if you want to extend it farther than that.
    Sammuel1973 and tanson1011 like this.
    08-27-2015 03:21 PM
  8. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Yes you're right Android is great for customizing and tweaking but that should be optional. You shouldn't HAVE to make all these adjustments just to get decent battery life. Especially on a top of the line flagship device. A device like the Note, which has always been aimed at power users and business professionals the battery should last at least a full day out of the box. You should only have to perform these tweaks if you want to extend it farther than that.
    Well you don't until you add apps.
    calicocat2010 likes this.
    08-27-2015 03:29 PM
  9. Sammuel1973's Avatar
    I bought the extra battery and charger for my Note 4 when I knew I was going to Star Wars Celebration (back in April). I knew outlet space would be a hot commodity and plugging in when on the convention floor would be a rarity. So, I was thinking ahead. Carrying around the extra battery was a savior.

    Standing in some of those insane lines, some times all I had to entertain myself was my phone. Of the 4 days at the convention, I swapped out the battery three times.

    Since April, I've been keeping up with the extra battery and if I know I'm going to be out (a lot) I bring it with me.

    I've also been playing Ingress since the end of June -- when I turn on the GPS/location it drains the battery faster. I turn it off when I'm not playing. So, it's nice to have an extra battery.

    When I get the Note 5, I'll probably have to invest in a good power pack.
    Sadly, my experience is the same. I have mentioned this in another thread. I went to 6 Flags last weekend, brought my Note 5 and Note 4, with the intention of taking pics and videos. My Note 5 was down to 20-30% by noon, the Note 4, with an extra swappable battery lasted me until 10p. A battery pack wouldn't help much since I needed to be 100% right away, plus it wouldn't have been fun to lug these things on the go, from ride to ride. Also, my 64gb sd card was super handy.
    08-27-2015 04:19 PM
  10. m3lover1's Avatar
    @Kelly Kearns It looks like the wiping of cache and reboot did it. Currently it is down at 5%. Will monitor tomorrow after a full charge and hope it stays the same
    08-27-2015 04:36 PM
  11. erasat's Avatar
    Yes you're right Android is great for customizing and tweaking but that should be optional. You shouldn't HAVE to make all these adjustments just to get decent battery life. Especially on a top of the line flagship device. A device like the Note, which has always been aimed at power users and business professionals the battery should last at least a full day out of the box. You should only have to perform these tweaks if you want to extend it farther than that.
    You forgot that Google has made some changes that has affected ALL Android devices since about 4 months, first, they removed Location Reporting, so now having Location History on, means that you have both services running in the background, and right now line of the main battery drainer as it pings your devices every few minutes and you can't stop it, just by turning Location History off.

    I have a full thread about all this and a lot of more things on the S6 forum, and like I mentioned there, people need to figure it out that our devices comes with EVERYTHING on by default, dozens of Google apps and services that you may never use, then Samsung add dozens more and to make thing worse, then the carriers do the same, if you think you can leave everything as it comes by default and get great battery life, sorry, but not real unless you have a 3500mHa battery or greater and that just give you a little more time if you don't make some tweaks.

    I created a thread here yesterday with a couple of those tweaks, I didn't add the Location History because I knew that I will get people saying exactly the same, that they shouldn't do this or that and with the S6 experience I gave up trying to argue about it, you do it if you want, if you don't then just return the phone.

    For those of you that would like to enjoy a lot more this great device and don't have any issues making a couple of tweaks here and there to get the best battery life possible, check the thread I created on this forum yesterday, or go to the S6 forum and look for my thread, you'll see easily there as it's the one with the more posts, just an advise, in addition to what I suggested yesterday, I'd add that if you can turn Location off until you need it, use those quick toggles, it takes you a second to turn them off or on, but if you want your location on for other services, use the Power Saving Mode (WiFi and Cell signal only) until you need a pinpoint Location like in using Google maps, then just switch the mode back. You won't believe the amount of people that just have Location on just to have the Weather widget working, they don't realize that you can turn the current location option off and just enter manually your city or cities and it will do just the same but Saving a good amount of battery life in the process.

    Again, like it was mentioned above, on this aspect, it's simply not fair to compare Android in general with iOS, as iOS controls every single aspect of those background apps and Android just love to have everything running in the background all the time, to be a fair comparisons, tweaks must be done and adding the Doze app and Auto Stop features on the 5.1.1 version it tweaks our phone to be more like what iOS do their stuff. On the next M release this Doze feature will be added to the core system and it will do the same from factory, but until then, this is a great help.
    08-27-2015 04:56 PM
  12. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    You forgot that Google has made some changes that has affected ALL Android devices since about 4 months, first, they removed Location Reporting, so now having Location History on, means that you have both services running in the background, and right now line of the main battery drainer as it pings your devices every few minutes and you can't stop it, just by turning Location History off.

    I have a full thread about all this and a lot of more things on the S6 forum, and like I mentioned there, people need to figure it out that our devices comes with EVERYTHING on by default, dozens of Google apps and services that you may never use, then Samsung add dozens more and to make thing worse, then the carriers do the same, if you think you can leave everything as it comes by default and get great battery life, sorry, but not real unless you have a 3500mHa battery or greater and that just give you a little more time if you don't make some tweaks.

    I created a thread here yesterday with a couple of those tweaks, I didn't add the Location History because I knew that I will get people saying exactly the same, that they shouldn't do this or that and with the S6 experience I gave up trying to argue about it, you do it if you want, if you don't then just return the phone.

    For those of you that would like to enjoy a lot more this great device and don't have any issues making a couple of tweaks here and there to get the best battery life possible, check the thread I created on this forum yesterday, or go to the S6 forum and look for my thread, you'll see easily there as it's the one with the more posts, just an advise, in addition to what I suggested yesterday, I'd add that if you can turn Location off until you need it, use those quick toggles, it takes you a second to turn them off or on, but if you want your location on for other services, use the Power Saving Mode (WiFi and Cell signal only) until you need a pinpoint Location like in using Google maps, then just switch the mode back. You won't believe the amount of people that just have Location on just to have the Weather widget working, they don't realize that you can turn the current location option off and just enter manually your city or cities and it will do just the same but Saving a good amount of battery life in the process.

    Again, like it was mentioned above, on this aspect, it's simply not fair to compare Android in general with iOS, add iOS controls every single aspect of those background apps and Android just love to have everything running in the background all the time, to be a fair comparisons, tweaks must be done and adding the Doze app and Auto Stop features on the 5.1.1 version it tweaks our phone to be more like what iOS do their stuff. On the next M release this Doze feature will be added to the core system and it will do the same from factory, but until then, this is a great help.
    As an Ambassador, I would ask that you please reconsider and post that information here. No one needs to argue with you about it. You can post what you have found in your experience and everything might not work for all but all might find something that would work for them.
    Gray Area likes this.
    08-27-2015 06:13 PM
  13. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    The wake lock app used ro be great at hunting down what is eating battery, but it changed and it might be since KitKat it wouldn't work without root. You can bypass that and hook it up to the computer, but it is very detailed to do. Some on the forums have done it though.
    08-27-2015 06:15 PM
  14. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    @Kelly Kearns It looks like the wiping of cache and reboot did it. Currently it is down at 5%. Will monitor tomorrow after a full charge and hope it stays the same
    Let me know if it starts back and I will track down someone that has a lot more knowledge and might can help more with that particular issue.
    m3lover1 likes this.
    08-27-2015 06:16 PM
  15. erasat's Avatar
    As an Ambassador, I would ask that you please reconsider and post that information here. No one needs to argue with you about it. You can post what you have found in your experience and everything might not work for all but all might find something that would work for them.
    OK, well I think that is easier to post a link to that thread as it contains hundreds of other posts that can be useful for Note 5 and Edge + plus users as the software and options in the 4 phones are basically the same.

    Check the thread here, and check what it may applies to you and the ones you think you can live without, just read the logic behinds each of them, as there are things that you may think you need and you may really don't.

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...y-s6-edge.html
    Kelly Kearns and nokia4life like this.
    08-27-2015 06:29 PM
  16. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Yeah, the link is just as good.

    Thanks for doing that!
    erasat likes this.
    08-27-2015 06:31 PM
  17. bigjunior45's Avatar
    I get similar results from my Note 4, but I guess it is good that the Note 5 can manage similar results on a battery that is 220mAh less, but I wanted a huge jump.

    Here is a recent run:
    Over 12hours off charge
    7h43m SOT
    http://i.imgur.com/ZRCF4gL.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/12Pif4N.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/kdk5bld.jpg
    Where do I go to view the Use Details and History Details? I go into my Battery icon in the settings and I don't see any icons I can select to view those two options
    08-27-2015 08:23 PM
  18. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    On the battery page. Open battery and it is under the picture of the battery, if your carrier hasn't disabled it.
    08-27-2015 08:34 PM
  19. bigjunior45's Avatar
    On the battery page. Open battery and it is under the picture of the battery, if your carrier hasn't disabled it.
    This is all I have. I have Verizon if that matters and is there a way to turn it on?
    Note 5 Battery life thread-screenshot_2015-08-27-21-12-01.jpg
    08-27-2015 09:16 PM
  20. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    This is all I have. I have Verizon if that matters and is there a way to turn it on?
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    Is that your Note 4?
    08-27-2015 09:38 PM
  21. bigjunior45's Avatar
    Is that your Note 4?
    Nope my Note 5. I think I got it to work now. So are these stats any good?
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    08-27-2015 09:57 PM
  22. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Yeah that is good, you have already had 15 hours of battery time. If you doubled your SOT time, your time would drop some.

    This is where the details button is on mine, under "Abnormal battery usage".
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    08-27-2015 10:11 PM
  23. dpham00's Avatar
    The wake lock app used ro be great at hunting down what is eating battery, but it changed and it might be since KitKat it wouldn't work without root. You can bypass that and hook it up to the computer, but it is very detailed to do. Some on the forums have done it though.
    The longest time is setting up adb. Otherwise, should just take about 2 minutes you just need to use 3 adb commands

    Adb devices
    Adb tcpip 5555
    Adb kill-server

    There are detailed instructions here

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...-required.html

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 5
    Kelly Kearns likes this.
    08-27-2015 11:14 PM
  24. SirDevan's Avatar
    I have had my Note 5 for about a week now. I have never had a Note before, my previous phones were (Samsung 5, Samsung 3 and iPhone 3). My wife has an iPhone 6 she got the same time as me and her battery life is no better than her iPhone 5 and I am going to have to get her a Mophie (she is a heavy user obviously).

    With that said, I also will need to get one for my Note. I was hoping not as a friend of mine has a Note 3 and his works all day just fine.

    The first day it was great, I was like this is awesome! But once I loaded everything on it and began using it productively it dropped fast. Now, it is much better than my S5. My S5 WITH Mophie would barely make it to bed time, without it I would get to about 3pm before it was dead if I didn't charge it.

    The Note 5 with heavy usage gets me through the day usually, but last night for example it hit the 15% mark at around 7pm. I did notice when it set up my email (using auto setup) it was checking the pop account way too much (was 40% of battery usage) when I changed it to imap 2 days ago and every 15 minutes that helped a lot.

    So, yes it is a huge improvement over the S5, but I was hoping that it would last much longer, because at this rate, either I have to lower my usage, darken the screen to where it's almost annoying or get a Mophie within the next 6 months. I know it will only get worse.

    So, for my first experience having a Note? It's ok, not sure I would get another one, but then again I need to give it a bit more than a weeks time. In fairness, my wife's iPhone 6 didn't make me feel any better.
    08-28-2015 07:32 AM
  25. vinoyoncyber's Avatar
    Yes it installs all the app

    Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
    08-28-2015 07:58 AM
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