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  1. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Verizon is my carrier and it wasn't installed on there.

    I am using Doze right now. I'll remove that battery app and see if that changes anything as well.

    Not sure what else I can do.
    OK, start with ShutApp, set it up, post if your have questions. Let's run for a couple of days, see how things are doing. Remember, don't be closing out all your stuff like you do with iPhone. I've seriously run all day with more than 15 things in my recent apps. Again, more than I would suggest, but Android handles it.

    Also do a cache wipe just in case there are bits of that Clean Master left around after the uninstall, just to be safe.

    Media server also has to do with indexing photos, just an FYI. Also Clean Master can get rid of that or use media server and keep that function from completing and also it cleans off a lot after things are indexed and they have to index again.
    08-31-2015 10:18 AM
  2. spasell's Avatar
    OK, game with ShutApp, set it up, post if your have questions. Let's run for a couple of days, see how things are doing. Remember, don't be closing out all your stuff like you do with iPhone. I've seriously run all day with more than 15 things in my recent apps. Again, more than I would suggest, but Android handles it.

    Also do a cache wipe just in case there are bits of that Clean Master left around after the uninstall, just to be safe.

    Media server also has to do with indexing photos, just an FYI. Also Clean Master can get rid of that or use media server and keep that function from completing and also it cleans off a lot after things are indexed and they have to index again.
    There's a few of ShutApp. Which one is it from Yirgalabs? Says ShutApp - Real Battery Saver.

    Additionally I have Doze. So good there?
    08-31-2015 10:22 AM
  3. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    There's a few of ShutApp. Which one is it from Yirgalabs? Says ShutApp - Real Battery Saver.

    Additionally I have Doze. So good there?
    Yes, that one.

    I'm trying Doze in addition with ShutApp also right now. Installed it last night.
    08-31-2015 10:48 AM
  4. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    So battery people.. How are batteries doing?
    08-31-2015 02:10 PM
  5. dunamis's Avatar
    So battery people.. How are batteries doing?
    it's been only 2 days...on Verizon and not so good. Having to turn things off and on is a little PITA but trying to be fair and deal with it. Coming from iphone 6 I do enjoy some things but some it's ok, maybe cause the iphone was jailbroken. I can't believe that the iphone 6 has MUCH BETTER battery than the Note 5....AT LEAST FOR ME!

    I understand that each system has it's quirks and I do need to make adjustments. So I am in the process of patiently testing out for 2 weeks.
    08-31-2015 02:32 PM
  6. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    it's been only 2 days...on Verizon and not so good. Having to turn things off and on is a little PITA but trying to be fair and deal with it. Coming from iphone 6 I do enjoy some things but some it's ok, maybe cause the iphone was jailbroken. I can't believe that the iphone 6 has MUCH BETTER battery than the Note 5....AT LEAST FOR ME!

    I understand that each system has it's quirks and I do need to make adjustments. So I am in the process of patiently testing out for 2 weeks.
    Well what we need to see here is a couple of days and running as much as you can, and if possible, not charging until it drops and seeing also how things do at night, so charging before sleeping and letting the phone stay off the charger at night can tell us a lot.

    We need to get it like you like it ans then you don't have to mess with it.
    08-31-2015 02:47 PM
  7. spasell's Avatar
    it's been only 2 days...on Verizon and not so good. Having to turn things off and on is a little PITA but trying to be fair and deal with it. Coming from iphone 6 I do enjoy some things but some it's ok, maybe cause the iphone was jailbroken. I can't believe that the iphone 6 has MUCH BETTER battery than the Note 5....AT LEAST FOR ME!

    I understand that each system has it's quirks and I do need to make adjustments. So I am in the process of patiently testing out for 2 weeks.
    I feel your pain. I'm also shocked at how much more battery I got from iPhone 6+ all you ever hear is how bad iPhone battery life is. In this case I'm going to charge it up before bed and take it off.

    I do use my phone as an alarm clock when plugged in but in this case I'll just set an alarm and use hotel clock.

    Right now I've had the phone 5 days and I'm severing about 8-9 hours after having disabled a lot for stuff.

    I really like Google Now Cards but I fear I need to shut that feature off as well. Just sucks to have to disable so many things to get it through a work day.
    08-31-2015 02:58 PM
  8. dpham00's Avatar
    it's been only 2 days...on Verizon and not so good. Having to turn things off and on is a little PITA but trying to be fair and deal with it. Coming from iphone 6 I do enjoy some things but some it's ok, maybe cause the iphone was jailbroken. I can't believe that the iphone 6 has MUCH BETTER battery than the Note 5....AT LEAST FOR ME!

    I understand that each system has it's quirks and I do need to make adjustments. So I am in the process of patiently testing out for 2 weeks.
    Having used the 6 plus, I have found that both to be close in straight SOT, but the idle on the iPhone is vastly superior. IPhone kicks apps out of memory quickly when on idle. Android let's more apps run in the background. Like for example I was downloading music from Spotify, uploading videos to youtube. When I turn the screen off, these tasks will shut off after a while on my 6 plus. On the note 5, these apps are allowed to remain in memory. So apps like shutapp and doze helps to do what iPhones do by default. Things should net better on Android m because doze feature is built in.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 5
    08-31-2015 03:02 PM
  9. dpham00's Avatar
    I found Wake Lock Detector in the Play Store but it needs root to run? Did you root your Note5? Is there a version that doesn't require root?

    Thanks!
    It works without root,but you do need adb. Check out my thread here :

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...-required.html

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 5
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    08-31-2015 03:06 PM
  10. spasell's Avatar
    Having used the 6 plus, I have found that both to be close in straight SOT, but the idle on the iPhone is vastly superior. IPhone kicks apps out of memory quickly when on idle. Android let's more apps run in the background. Like for example I was downloading music from Spotify, uploading videos to youtube. When I turn the screen off, these tasks will shut off after a while on my 6 plus. On the note 5, these apps are allowed to remain in memory. So apps like shutapp and doze helps to do what iPhones do by default. Things should net better on Android m because doze feature is built in.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 5
    Any word on release of marshmallow? That's a feature that could make all the difference.

    True as well when you talk SOT although I charged my Note 5 to 100% unplugged 30 min ago and all I've been doing is email text and writing via Chrome on this site and I'm down 7%. Just seems to drain so much faster than I expected.
    08-31-2015 03:09 PM
  11. dpham00's Avatar
    Any word on release of marshmallow? That's a feature that could make all the difference.

    True as well when you talk SOT although I charged my Note 5 to 100% unplugged 30 min ago and all I've been doing is email text and writing via Chrome on this site and I'm down 7%. Just seems to drain so much faster than I expected.
    No idea on m release.

    The 6 plus has a dead zone at the top, the note 5 doesn't. In my usage, the note 5 ranged from 12-16% on light tasks straight SOT typically. On the 6 plus, I was getting 12-14%, once you got past the dead zone at the top.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 5
    08-31-2015 03:19 PM
  12. dunamis's Avatar
    Having used the 6 plus, I have found that both to be close in straight SOT, but the idle on the iPhone is vastly superior. IPhone kicks apps out of memory quickly when on idle. Android let's more apps run in the background. Like for example I was downloading music from Spotify, uploading videos to youtube. When I turn the screen off, these tasks will shut off after a while on my 6 plus. On the note 5, these apps are allowed to remain in memory. So apps like shutapp and doze helps to do what iPhones do by default. Things should net better on Android m because doze feature is built in.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 5
    thanks for the info...so I downloaded Shutapp and Doze. With shutapp i selected whitelist apps...how often should I close the apps? with "DOZE"... what do I do?
    08-31-2015 03:27 PM
  13. spasell's Avatar
    Yes, that one.

    I'm trying Doze in addition with ShutApp also right now. Installed it last night.
    I did something dumb. All my ring tones are gone. I disabled Media but enabled it again an yet still no tones that come with the phone. Trying to determine how that happened. I used the standard tones that came with phone. Would like to get them back

    No other media related stuff is disabled.
    08-31-2015 03:43 PM
  14. foxorian's Avatar
    Hey everyone, got my Note 5 about 4 days ago and wanted to share a strange issue I had with it battery related.

    On the first night I left the phone charging on my nightstand, I used the same old HTC USB charger and cable I've had for years. The phone was at about 15-20% battery left when I went to sleep. The next morning, I awoke to find it had only charged to about 45%, and said it was going to take another 12 hours for a full recharge. This never proved to be an issue for my Nexus 6 which used that same charger all the time every night, but yeah okay, whatever.

    When I got to work, I let it continue charging. It reached about 88% at a normal pace recharging from the USB hub on my monitor. Then, suddenly, it shot up to 100% and said it was done. (I noticed it also slowed down, taking a long long time to get from 87% to 88% for instance.) This was a first flag that something was wrong. When I unplugged the phone, it went from 100% down to about 79% in the span off a half-hour while using it briefly only once in that time. Looking at the battery usage history, it was also obvious that the level was falling much faster than it should for such light usage. This was the second flag that something was wrong. That's when I decided "... Okay, let's run the battery down and see what happens." My logic here being, "does the battery have no concept of what it's current charge level is?" And so, I left it on my desk at full brightness watching YouTube videos, never letting the screen turn off just running the battery down as fast as I can. This is where the third flag comes in that confirms for me something was wrong.

    Note 5 Battery life thread-screenshot_2015-08-28-21-01-54.jpg

    As you can see, the phone hit 1% battery at 4PM and then CONTINUED OPERATING until it finally shut down on its own OVER THREE HOURS LATER at 7:15PM. (The screen was on and I was using the phone during that ENTIRE duration.) If you follow the downward trend into the negative until I plug it back in, you can infer that the true charge of the battery was still somewhere between 30-40% when it was reading 1%. Pretty crazy right?

    I shut the phone down after taking that screenshot and let it continue charging in an off-state using the Samsung charger until it hit 100% with a green notification light. (It spent nearly 30 minutes on 100% as well, until it gave the green light it was fully charged.) Last night, after unplugging at 100% and turning the phone on at about 10:30PM, I went to bed shortly after and left it off the hook. It's now almost 5PM the next day and I'm at 58% left after moderate usage all day (listening to music, texting.) This seems much much more normal for what should be expected of this phone's battery.

    Note 5 Battery life thread-screenshot_2015-08-31-16-29-08.jpg

    Above is a screenshot of the battery performance as of writing this post. Looks much more reasonable.

    I think if any of you are seeing very unusually short battery performance, you may consider calibrating the battery from 0%. It's worth noting that the phone DOES SHUT-DOWN when it hits it's lowest possible power level. It does not just blip-off like a Game Boy that just had its AA's die. So, if you suspect your phone might be doing something similar, do the following ONLY ONCE:
    1) Use your phone until it turns itself off by any means necessary (leaving a game running is one of the fastest ways to do this.)
    2) Just after it turns off, leave the phone off and charge it with the Samsung Fast Charger until it gives a 100% green notification LED.
    3) Start the phone plugged in, unplug it once it's booted, and perhaps even restart for good measure.
    4) Try to use the phone normally until it reaches a low level between 10-30% before charging again and keep an eye on how long this takes.
    (Note: Even though the phone shuts down at true 0%, you want to avoid getting the battery this low whenever you can for the health of the battery. You'll be fine just this once, though. Just be sure to not leave it at 0% for any long period of time after it dies. Start charging it shortly after.)

    That said, I'm not going to be using that old HTC charger anymore. It's entirely possible it was responsible for throwing the reading off on my phone. But I also don't know for certain, so this was my story.
    08-31-2015 03:45 PM
  15. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I did something dumb. All my ring tones are gone. I disabled Media but enabled it again an yet still no tones that come with the phone. Trying to determine how that happened. I used the standard tones that came with phone. Would like to get them back

    No other media related stuff is disabled.
    Like you did it in one of these apps?
    08-31-2015 03:47 PM
  16. AlexMarie15's Avatar
    Yes, that one.

    I'm trying Doze in addition with ShutApp also right now. Installed it last night.
    I'm personally trying it right now, yet I'm still losing 1% battery life standby every 20 minutes or so. It seems like it got worse with shutapp and doze.
    08-31-2015 03:49 PM
  17. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I'm personally trying it right now, yet I'm still losing 1% battery life standby every 20 minutes or so. It seems like it got worse with shutapp and doze.
    I added a lot to ShutApp, almost everything but phone, weather stuff, swiftkey..
    08-31-2015 03:51 PM
  18. spasell's Avatar
    Like you did it in one of these apps?
    I know what I did. I disabled Media and then cleared the Cache and POOF they are gone. Someone had done same thing but long time ago so the ones I re downloaded were older.

    Would be great to get zip files of Note 5 notifications and ring tones should anyone know he to do that
    08-31-2015 03:54 PM
  19. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I know what I did. I disabled Media and then cleared the Cache and POOF they are gone. Someone had done same thing but long time ago so the ones I re downloaded were older.

    Would be great to get zip files of Note 5 notifications and ring tones should anyone know he to do that
    Wait..you are saying the stock ringtones are gone?
    08-31-2015 03:57 PM
  20. spasell's Avatar
    Wait..you are saying the stock ringtones are gone?
    Yes. Vanished
    08-31-2015 03:59 PM
  21. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Yes. Vanished
    Ok first..did you do a hard reset and go to sounds and see if they are there? They don't show up in the "My Files" when you look there.
    08-31-2015 04:02 PM
  22. wvtarheel's Avatar
    Im averaging 6 hours 25 minutes screen on time and 14 hours and 21 minutes total battery life. I'm not using ShutApp or greenify, or anything out of the ordinary.
    08-31-2015 04:03 PM
  23. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    You can not actually delete them unless you are rooted, those are system files.
    08-31-2015 04:04 PM
  24. AlexMarie15's Avatar
    I added a lot to ShutApp, almost everything but phone, weather stuff, swiftkey..
    So what would be the best way to use shutapp? Typically I don't see terrible standby battery drain, but right now it's losing more than usual (for a two day period anyway).
    08-31-2015 04:05 PM
  25. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    So what would be the best way to use shutapp? Typically I don't see terrible standby battery drain, but right now it's losing more than usual (for a two day period anyway).
    For me, I check email frequently, so I don't need notifications coming through right away, I check that manually, though some come through before I do. I really did all my apps, except the phone, messaging, weather alert apps I need and my breaking news app, clock, I use a lot. Everything else that is an app, I didn't check it to allow.Yours can be different, you might want notifications immediately from other things.
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    08-31-2015 04:08 PM
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