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  1. pwiddy's Avatar
    Your "held awake" time is almost the same as your total time since last unplugged. The battery drain seems to be coming through your apps though... something (or multiple somethings) you have installed is (1) keeping your phone awake and (2) draining battery by the app running...
    thanks....any idea how to find out what?
    09-10-2015 11:40 AM
  2. Chitown28's Avatar
    That's some nice screen on time I would like to know if your using power saving mode,Facebook, YouTube,instagram? Oh and what's your brightness set at?
    09-10-2015 12:12 PM
  3. wvtarheel's Avatar
    thanks....any idea how to find out what?
    I'll post some suggestions later on down in this comment. I can tell you that I am getting over 16 hours total battery life on average, with over seven hours of screen on time. In a lot of ways, your battery data and mine are not that different - similar data for phone, wifi active, bluetooth, etc. Your screen seems to eat a little more than mine per hour (brightness?) and your apps eat a LOT more battery by percentage than mine. Your held awake battery percentage is low (2%) but your held awake time is looooong. My held awake is always at 0% and its usually held awake about 15% of the total on time. Yours is held awake, like 80-90% of the total on time.... which I don't understand at all.

    All of that is why I think some app you are using, which is not itself a huge battery hog, is querying some android system process and holding your phone awake when it is not in use.

    I would start by disabling or uninstall any bloatware or apps that appear on your battery list that you never use. I always suggest that because if you aren't using them its a no harm no foul effect on your user experience.

    Second, I would open your phone up cold after its been sitting not being used for a while, and open up the usage manager, and check what apps are running, if any. If an app is causing wakelocks, it has to be running at least a process..... There are also apps you can download to find a wake lock causing application. Wakelock detector is the one I see mentioned but I have never bothered with it because my battery life is pretty good.

    One last suggestion would be to try one of the battery saver modes and see how it effects your battery life and/or performance.
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    09-10-2015 12:15 PM
  4. vm81's Avatar
    What carrier are you on?
    09-10-2015 12:20 PM
  5. wvtarheel's Avatar
    Note 5 Battery life thread-eyxoqkh.jpg

    There is my GSAM report. I'm averaging 16 1/2 hours per complete charge, over 7 hours screen on time, and very little "held awake" time compared to my total hours since last full charge.

    I'm not on any power saving mode, I'm on AT&T with auto brightness all day.
    09-10-2015 12:21 PM
  6. vm81's Avatar
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    There is my GSAM report. I'm averaging 16 1/2 hours per complete charge, over 7 hours screen on time, and very little "held awake" time compared to my total hours since last full charge.

    I'm not on any power saving mode, I'm on AT&T with auto brightness all day.
    Its people on Verizon who are having the most issue with battery life on wifi
    1stGalaxyS3 likes this.
    09-10-2015 12:43 PM
  7. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Its people on Verizon who are having the most issue with battery life on wifi
    A few others are having it also and not all Verizon are having it.
    09-10-2015 02:16 PM
  8. JC1979's Avatar
    With Shutapp I went from about 4 SOT to 9 SOT. I don't need to charge as often either. Doze was not enough.

    I was about to give up. But no! I also disable the NFC/payment feature at all times unless using it. (Some complainers appear to keep it on.) I turn down my brightness whenever I don't need it. Love the black screen, and use mostly Nook and stock browser. Not many calls.

    I charged at 9pm yesterday from 15% to about 58%, with little usage between then and 12:30pm PST.

    I'm Verizon and WIFI is on always work/home/commuting. I have WIFI notifications off. I did select the stock power saving mode finally, which may have improved some after Shutapp.

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    09-10-2015 02:40 PM
  9. Fr0gburp3r's Avatar
    First if you have a bad signal, you are going to have a draining battery.

    Second, you don't have to disable processes that make Android devices what they are.

    You can't just compare iPhone to Android in that way, that is comparing apples to oranges.

    Just one minor thing and that makes a difference in battery, is widgets. Android has actual widgets, with info delivered to your home screen, fully functioning, iPhone doesn't do that. The widgets of iPhone are notifications.

    How do you think iPhone operates with so little RAM? It doesn't have all the processes running because it doesn't do near the same as Android. Android is highly customizable, which is why Android users choose Android. If it is highly customizable, people are going to use different things. If you have something running that you don't use and you are already having battery issues, you can just disable what you aren't using.

    Now my sister has an iPhone and she is connected to a charger all the time and when she isn't, she has a charging case she has to use a lot.

    Neither is true for me. Her phone also does very little of what my phone does.

    Trying to compare the Android and iPhone is like comparing a Toyota Corolla and a Sports car and saying the Toyota is better because it gets better gas mileage and your sports car should get the same gas milage and you shouldn't have to put more gas on it and should be able to use 10W 40 oil in the sports car that is much cheaper instead of having to use 5W 30 oil.

    Yeah, they are both cars, but when you have a V6 or a V8 sports car and try to compare it to a Toyota, performance is quite different and they will never get the same gas mileage and having simply higher gas mileage doesn't always mean anything. You can't have a sports car and then expect it to run like a Toyota.

    So, if you want a sports car and the gas mileage of a Toyota, there are things you have to change about how you drive the sports car.

    If you want a high power Android and want a battery that last like an iPhone or even a Samsung Galaxy Core Prime, you are going to have to give up some of those functions.
    The only widget I have is a clock and weather which only updates hourly. I use Google Now and want location history on. I have been carrying both my Note 5 and iPhone 6+ with me to see how each performs in the same environment. GPS is on all the time on my iPhone 6+. It seems like something is eating up the battery of my Note 5 while on standby.
    09-10-2015 03:05 PM
  10. dpham00's Avatar
    thanks....any idea how to find out what?
    Wld.

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...-required.html

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 5
    09-10-2015 03:08 PM
  11. erasat's Avatar
    The only widget I have is a clock and weather which only updates hourly. I use Google Now and want location history on. I have been carrying both my Note 5 and iPhone 6+ with me to see how each performs in the same environment. GPS is on all the time on my iPhone 6+. It seems like something is eating up the battery of my Note 5 while on standby.
    Man, I know that you clearly say that you WANT Location History on, but look no further, that's what's eating up your battery.

    If Location History behaves and gives the same functionality in iOS than in Android, that I don't know, as I don't use an iPhone since 3 years ago. But, in Android, since Google removed location reporting from the options and incorporated it to the only option now, location history, having that option on now is a Battery Killer at the same level than a Full brightness display or even more depending on the current activity.

    So, the question is, for your use, do you really need location history on? Take a look at this thread I created recently and see if you can work around that. http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...ery-drain.html
    09-10-2015 03:22 PM
  12. dpham00's Avatar
    I tried turning off Google location history and Google now... I didn't notice a change in battery life. There might have been one, but it wasn't noticeable to me.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 5
    09-10-2015 03:36 PM
  13. vm81's Avatar
    I tried turning off Google location history and Google now... I didn't notice a change in battery life. There might have been one, but it wasn't noticeable to me.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 5
    Since you are on Verizon, thats not the issue? Are you using WiFi...if you are...thats your problem. Turn off wifi and see your battery life jump.
    09-10-2015 03:41 PM
  14. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    The only widget I have is a clock and weather which only updates hourly. I use Google Now and want location history on. I have been carrying both my Note 5 and iPhone 6+ with me to see how each performs in the same environment. GPS is on all the time on my iPhone 6+. It seems like something is eating up the battery of my Note 5 while on standby.
    I wasn't saying you had widgets..
    09-10-2015 03:47 PM
  15. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    The only widget I have is a clock and weather which only updates hourly. I use Google Now and want location history on. I have been carrying both my Note 5 and iPhone 6+ with me to see how each performs in the same environment. GPS is on all the time on my iPhone 6+. It seems like something is eating up the battery of my Note 5 while on standby.
    Oh and.. I keep location on and turn location history off. Are you needing to have Google know where you were yesterday?
    09-10-2015 03:49 PM
  16. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Since you are on Verizon, thats not the issue? Are you using WiFi...if you are...thats your problem. Turn off wifi and see your battery life jump.
    He tested it yesterday with wifi, didn't have the issue. There is an ambassador with a Note 5 on Verizon, he isn't having the issue either.
    09-10-2015 04:11 PM
  17. dpham00's Avatar
    Since you are on Verizon, thats not the issue? Are you using WiFi...if you are...thats your problem. Turn off wifi and see your battery life jump.
    I have used it with wifi and 4GLTE. About the same. 6-7% overnight whether on wifi or 4GLTE.

    Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note 5
    09-10-2015 05:21 PM
  18. Zoonvu's Avatar
    And I can pretty much guarantee that if you just turn off your wifi...you will be thrilled with your battery life. Nothing else needed.
    You are right, my note 5 lost about 8% of battery by just turning off wifi overnight. I didn't turn off the location, sync, and power save was off. My phone also fully loaded with apps also.

    Still wondering why by just turning off wifi save battery draining from 25% to 8% on standby.

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    09-10-2015 07:34 PM
  19. drone3's Avatar
    You are right, my note 5 lost about 8% of battery by just turning off wifi overnight. I didn't turn off the location, sync, and power save was off. My phone also fully loaded with apps also.

    Still wondering why by just turning off wifi save battery draining from 25% to 8% on standby.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    I think it may be a lollipop WiFi bug, I know the nexus 5 also had battery drain on WiFi.

    If you want even better standby time, in WiFi settings under 'keep WiFi on during sleep' choose 'only when plugged in' and install the the app 'Doze' it will restrict data when the screen is off.

    dreaming of electric sheep
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    09-10-2015 07:43 PM
  20. jdhooghe's Avatar
    Coming from Verizon I can second the observation that cellular standby is worse. Tmobile is non existent.

    Those that have lots of apps: if all of them have notifications turned on your wakelock is going to be insane. Go into each app and make sure the notifications are as needed. If not, turn them off!



    from my smexy Note 5
    09-10-2015 07:53 PM
  21. vm81's Avatar
    I think it may be a lollipop WiFi bug, I know the nexus 5 also had battery drain on WiFi.

    If you want even better standby time, in WiFi settings under 'keep WiFi on during sleep' choose 'only when plugged in' and install the the app 'Doze' it will restrict data when the screen is off.

    dreaming of electric sheep
    I don't think it's lollipop issue. I was using S6 till last week for couple of months and S4 before that. Both of them on lollipop... Absolutely no issue on either.
    09-10-2015 08:07 PM
  22. vm81's Avatar
    You are right, my note 5 lost about 8% of battery by just turning off wifi overnight. I didn't turn off the location, sync, and power save was off. My phone also fully loaded with apps also.

    Still wondering why by just turning off wifi save battery draining from 25% to 8% on standby.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    If you notice on your notification bar... When you have WiFi on... 4G is also on. This never used to be the case for me on S6 on lollipop full last week. While I am sure even though it shows 4G on its not using carrier data... But somehow WiFi is interfering with 4G radio and is resulting in very high cell standby shock is indeed causing battery drain. If you look at your battery usage, you will see this. If you are just on 4G cell standby will be very very low. That is what is causing battery drain.

    I am sure people can turn notifications of on various apps and use power saver etc.... But that's not the solution. They will improve your battery life for sure but those things will improve battery life even further if it was running fine to begin with.

    When you spend $700 on a device... You should have to make sacrifices to make it run. II shouldn't have to make my peace with such major flaws.
    09-10-2015 08:15 PM
  23. jdhooghe's Avatar
    Also, disabling apps doesn't seem to stop them from updating in the background. As Kelly said, go to data usage and you'll see which apps have used data. For example on tmobile I have the amazon app that was preinstalled. I disabled it and it still uses data it seems. Click on it and forbid it from updating in the background

    from my smexy Note 5
    09-10-2015 08:16 PM
  24. Zoonvu's Avatar
    I totally agree with you 'vm81'. Why should you do that much tweak to save battery for this level of phone.

    For my carrier, I am not livining in US, Thailand is where I m living. All phones here are unlocked phones and we are free to change to any carrier we want. So I don't my carrier would effect use of battery life here.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    09-10-2015 08:31 PM
  25. JimmyMac's Avatar
    You are right, my note 5 lost about 8% of battery by just turning off wifi overnight. I didn't turn off the location, sync, and power save was off. My phone also fully loaded with apps also.

    Still wondering why by just turning off wifi save battery draining from 25% to 8% on standby.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    If it isn't already, try to set your location to Power Saving so that it doesn't keep searching for GPS satellites all the time. This should save you even more. I'm coming from the iPhone 6plus. I usually went to bed with an hour long playlist. Woke up with 99% battery all the time. With my Note 5, I wake up with about 97~98% battery without music playing. This is with Wifi off as well. Email syncing plays a big part too.
    09-10-2015 09:16 PM
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