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  1. jdhooghe's Avatar
    That's the thing though, Facebook is erratic. When I look at the number of wakelocks on my phone, messenger and Facebook are always in the top three. Sometimes it behaves. I guess my point is that many people who have been having matters woes might consider looking at the wakelocks due to Facebook and Facebook messenger.


    Hey renx, that is definitely not normal. What accounts do you have syncing, what apps do you have push notifications on, and do you have any Google Apps going?


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    09-25-2015 09:15 PM
  2. Renxification's Avatar
    Hey renx, that is definitely not normal. What accounts do you have syncing, what apps do you have push notifications on, and do you have any Google Apps going?
    Lets see... I have only my google account added into my Note 5 which updates my e-mail. I also have WhatsApp which is also set to sync. I have Facebook installed but unsync'ed, set to show friend requests, messages, and event invites. Aside from those 3, the remaining notifications I get are from the play store or from Samsung for software updates.

    I think that is most of what I see. Is there somewhere where I can a list of all the notifications? Aside from that, whatever is shown in the AppSucker screenshot above remains the same.

    edit:

    I also see Office, OneDrive, and Samsung account under Accounts; all of which are currently set to not sync.
    09-25-2015 09:57 PM
  3. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Lets see... I have only my google account added into my Note 5 which updates my e-mail. I also have WhatsApp which is also set to sync. I have Facebook installed but unsync'ed, set to show friend requests, messages, and event invites. Aside from those 3, the remaining notifications I get are from the play store or from Samsung for software updates.

    I think that is most of what I see. Is there somewhere where I can a list of all the notifications? Aside from that, whatever is shown in the AppSucker screenshot above remains the same.
    Your WiFi.. Go to advanced and check if you have it set this way.. All of this off and never stay on while sleeping.
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    09-25-2015 10:11 PM
  4. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    That's the thing though, Facebook is erratic. When I look at the number of wakelocks on my phone, messenger and Facebook are always in the top three. Sometimes it behaves. I guess my point is that many people who have been having matters woes might consider looking at the wakelocks due to Facebook and Facebook messenger.


    Hey renx, that is definitely not normal. What accounts do you have syncing, what apps do you have push notifications on, and do you have any Google Apps going?


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    Are you sure it wasn't Messenger? It does all kinds of bad stuff. You can use this, you still have to keep the messenger app enabled, but uninstall updates and set it not to auto update. This app tells me "not installed" when I install it each time, but when I go to messages in the Facebook app after going through the install, they still work. I downloaded the "new" one.

    http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...abler-t2934179
    09-25-2015 10:30 PM
  5. Renxification's Avatar
    Your WiFi.. Go to advanced and check if you have it set this way.. All of this off and never stay on while sleeping.
    Thanks for the suggestion... I will let it run for the next few hours and get back to you tomorrow if there are any improvements. Any other suggestions are welcome!
    09-25-2015 11:29 PM
  6. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Well some of it is also disabling any carrier bloatware you may have. The package disabler app works great for that to disable things that we can't disable through App Manager.
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    09-25-2015 11:41 PM
  7. recDNA's Avatar
    Well some of it is also disabling any carrier bloatware you may have. The package disabler app works great for that to disable things that we can't disable through App Manager.
    I mean this with all due respect but if you turn off google and facebook and have wifi set to sleep you are basically turning a smartphone into a dumb phone. If I don't play any games, sync any email, make any phone calls, watch any youtube, stream any music, nor receive any kind of contact with the outside world when my screen is off (wifi sleep), use any Samsung software etc. why not just buy a flip phone?

    Your suggestions are all accurate. The more stuff we shut off and the fewer apps we use the more battery life we have but it kind of defeats the idea of having the most advanced smart phone ever built.

    It's just a shame we have to.

    If they just made the phone thick enough so camera lens was flush with back cover we could have had a much bigger battery.

    I find the biggest battery killer is a weak signal. If you have less than 3 bars for any length of time I would suggest airplane mode until you are back in a strong signal area.

    Does your phone ever feel hot when you have a good signal? Unless you are playing a game some app is running amuck.
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    09-26-2015 08:28 AM
  8. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I mean this with all due respect but if you turn off google and facebook and have wifi set to sleep you are basically turning a smartphone into a dumb phone. If I don't play any games, sync any email, make any phone calls, watch any youtube, stream any music, nor receive any kind of contact with the outside world when my screen is off (wifi sleep), use any Samsung software etc. why not just buy a flip phone?

    Your suggestions are all accurate. The more stuff we shut off and the fewer apps we use the more battery life we have but it kind of defeats the idea of having the most advanced smart phone ever built.

    It's just a shame we have to.

    If they just made the phone thick enough so camera lens was flush with back cover we could have had a much bigger battery.

    I find the biggest battery killer is a weak signal. If you have less than 3 bars for any length of time I would suggest airplane mode until you are back in a strong signal area.

    Does your phone ever feel hot when you have a good signal? Unless you are playing a game some app is running amuck.
    Actually, no it doesn't turn it into a dumb phone.

    First, if people don't use the Facebook app, not sure why they would want it running.

    I never said anything about turning off Google, but some people don't use Google Now.

    Having it set to turn off WiFi when the phone is sleeping, doesn't change get anything at except keep the WiFi from waking the phone all night and apps, even ones just installed and not being used, from sending location all the time to Google.

    Setting WiFi to sleep when the screen is off, doesn't stop my phone from operating at all.

    Package Disabler is for disabling carrier bloatware that you don't use at all. If you read all my posts here, I'm very, very clear about not turning off everything on the phone. My phone runs at full throttle and I charge it on average every other day and once a day, when I have heavy use. I have no issues with this battery. It is doing much better than my Note 4, which was charging once a day and twice a day on heavy days.

    I use the Facebook app, I do not use the messenger app. I've been a beta tester for Facebook for a couple of years now, one that was involved with the developers. I know how that messenger app chews through battery and data.
    09-26-2015 10:14 AM
  9. spasell's Avatar
    Actually, no it doesn't turn it into a dumb phone.

    First, if people don't use the Facebook app, not sure why they would want it running.

    I never said anything about turning off Google, but some people don't use Google Now.

    Having it set to turn off WiFi when the phone is sleeping, doesn't change get anything at except keep the WiFi from waking the phone all night and apps, even ones just installed and not being used, from sending location all the time to Google.

    Setting WiFi to sleep when the screen is off, doesn't stop my phone from operating at all.

    Package Disabler is for disabling carrier bloatware that you don't use at all. If you read all my posts here, I'm very, very clear about not turning off everything on the phone. My phone runs at full throttle and I charge it on average every other day and once a day, when I have heavy use. I have no issues with this battery. It is doing much better than my Note 4, which was charging once a day and twice a day on heavy days.

    I use the Facebook app, I do not use the messenger app. I've been a beta tester for Facebook for a couple of years now, one that was involved with the developers. I know how that messenger app chews through battery and data.
    For whatever reason I have the option for WiFi to sleep with screen off and it doesn't. I'm on Verizon but doubt that's the issue. But it does tick me off that it doesn't work.

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    09-26-2015 11:23 AM
  10. spasell's Avatar
    OK. I've had the phone for 3 weeks now and feel like I've got a great handle on battery.

    I have switched from iPhone 6+ to Note 5.

    I have run tests for a week going between the two devices and finally decided today to go strictly with Note 5. The only reason I considered not doing so was battery. I felt my iPhone 6+ was MUCH better on battery but I was wrong, dead wrong.

    I consider myself a moderate to heavy user. Mostly Email, text, Web browsing, Facebook, Twitter and reading WSJ among a few other things.

    Actual PHONE CALLS (this is a phone right?) are between 90-120 minutes each day. I have auto brightness on.

    I have location on but at power saving mode and disabled all the bloatware stuff. I also use Google Now since I like it like I used Siri for reminders etc.

    So what did I find?

    Using iPhone I fully charged and then took off charger at 12am for 3 straight days. When waking at 530 I had only lost 2% battery over that time.

    Same conditions for N5 I woke up and was down to 94% or 6% loss on standby. At first I was convinced that no way can this device be better over iPhone for battery.

    Then I made sure to read my WSJ app for 30 minutes with screen on the entire time while drinking my coffee. It's my routine for the most part BUT I actually used a timer for 30 min.

    When I was done my iPhone was down to 90% but under same conditions on my Note 5 I was down to 90% as well. However that's an 8% drop on the iPhone but a 4% drop on N5.

    Started wondering if standby is worse on N5 but SOT is better on N5. So I decided to play a video using Safari on iPhone and stock browser on N5. It was a 15 min documentary I have for work.

    After 15 min the iPhone dropped down to 83% and my Note 5 was at 87%

    Then I decided to do the same basic activities for 3 days straight on iPhone and 3 for Note 5.

    Keep in mind Ieft location on for each device and made sure on the Note 5 to use power saving mode for it. In reality for the iphone I never had many apps set to use location but there were a couple so I left it alone.

    Each night when I got home, did more email, texts, social media, I was shocked.

    My iPhone gave me a low power warning each day around 830pm and by 930 it was almost dead and needed to be charged to repeat same unplugging by 12am to repeat.

    With the N5 I still had approximately 20% left by around 830 and when getting ready to charge I still had12-15% left when plugging in.

    It appears that iPhone beats N5 on standby but for those that actually USE it as not just a fun device but a PHONE and productivity tool the N5 hands down is better by about 15-20% with same usage because there's less drain for SOT.

    One final note.

    I traveled to San Francisco for 10 days and carried only my N5. My battery was even better and I think that's because my signal is weaker at home. Cell Standby in CA was non existent but I am at 5-8% or more when at home.

    I did get a cell range extender and it so working pretty good showing 4g almost steadily so we will see.

    FINAL FINAL thought:

    I think I was charging my iPhone 6+ when I first got it when driving home so my perception was that I was getting better battery than my new N5. It never occurred to me that I wasn't doing the same with my N5 because I was obsessing over battery.

    With rapid charging I can go from 30-40% to 75-80% in 20-30 min on N5. Same drive car charge time on iPhone 6+ I'd only gain 15% more battery sometimes 20.

    That alone tells me that in a pinch the N5 is much better overall for battery. I never worried when traveling because when needed after my conference I charged my N5 in hotel room for 15 minutes before heading out each night and was way back up again.

    I'm impressed and satisfied, alleviating my fears on battery.

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    09-26-2015 11:50 AM
  11. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    For whatever reason I have the option for WiFi to sleep with screen off and it doesn't. I'm on Verizon but doubt that's the issue. But it does tick me off that it doesn't work.

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    Did you go to settings, then wifi, then more and then choose advanced? Verizon has this also.
    09-26-2015 11:50 AM
  12. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Here..
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    09-26-2015 11:51 AM
  13. recDNA's Avatar
    Actually, no it doesn't turn it into a dumb phone.

    First, if people don't use the Facebook app, not sure why they would want it running.

    I never said anything about turning off Google, but some people don't use Google Now.

    Having it set to turn off WiFi when the phone is sleeping, doesn't change get anything at except keep the WiFi from waking the phone all night and apps, even ones just installed and not being used, from sending location all the time to Google.

    Setting WiFi to sleep when the screen is off, doesn't stop my phone from operating at all.

    Package Disabler is for disabling carrier bloatware that you don't use at all. If you read all my posts here, I'm very, very clear about not turning off everything on the phone. My phone runs at full throttle and I charge it on average every other day and once a day, when I have heavy use. I have no issues with this battery. It is doing much better than my Note 4, which was charging once a day and twice a day on heavy days.

    I use the Facebook app, I do not use the messenger app. I've been a beta tester for Facebook for a couple of years now, one that was involved with the developers. I know how that messenger app chews through battery and data.
    My comment wasn't directed specifically at you. All of those things I listed were suggestions on this thread. If you do all of them you pretty much have a dumb phone. In wifi sleep mode you may not get synced notifications. If you really want phone to sleep you have to turn off google using wifi for location even when wifi is off. I agree it is smart to turn off apps you don't use but I use all except facebook
    09-26-2015 03:49 PM
  14. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    My fomment wasn't directed specifically at you. All of those things I listed were suggestions on this thread. If you do all of them you pretty much have a dumb phone. In wifi sleep mode you may not get synced notifications. If you really want phone to sleep you have to turn off google using wifi for location even when wifi is off. I agree it is smart to turn off alps you don't use but I use all except facebook
    You do get sync'd notifications with WiFi set that way. All that does is keep wifi from scanning and sending location to Google. It doesn't stop anything at all.

    Thr phone will sleep fine if it isn't sending location. I've been doing this with Samsung phones since the S and now Samsung is even suggesting that.

    It isn't Google using the location, it is apps you download sending location to Google and it isn't just Google Apps.

    But it still isn't a dumb phone. Tons of people never use Google Now. That isn't a necessary function.

    And the apps that people disable are carrier bloatware they don't use.

    Also many of the bloatware apps will run in the background, even when not in use or being used, if they aren't disabled. That uses RAM, data and battery.
    09-26-2015 03:56 PM
  15. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    For whatever reason I have the option for WiFi to sleep with screen off and it doesn't. I'm on Verizon but doubt that's the issue. But it does tick me off that it doesn't work.

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    How do you know it isn't sleeping?
    09-26-2015 04:03 PM
  16. MDMcAtee's Avatar
    My fomment wasn't directed specifically at you. All of those things I listed were suggestions on this thread. If you do all of them you pretty much have a dumb phone. In wifi sleep mode you may not get synced notifications. If you really want phone to sleep you have to turn off google using wifi for location even when wifi is off. I agree it is smart to turn off alps you don't use but I use all except facebook
    My phone is on 24-7 and is set up like most others here that choose to do so. I have absolutely no need to be connected to any social media bs app round the clock and in reality if you need to be I feel sorry for you. My email is sync'd, my text messages come through fine as well as " gasp" actual phone calls

    I can be reached at anytime by anyone who matters to me and have probably the greatest smartphone at my fingertips ready to go within seconds of picking it up.

    I don't understand why you feel turning off things that chew through your battery makes you feel like you have a dumb phone
    09-26-2015 04:07 PM
  17. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    All my Facebook, email, breaking news and most important, my weather alerts, as I live in a severe tornado area, all come through, all night.
    09-26-2015 04:13 PM
  18. recDNA's Avatar
    My phone is on 24-7 and is set up like most others here that choose to do so. I have absolutely no need to be connected to any social media bs app round the clock and in reality if you need to be I feel sorry for you. My email is sync'd, my text messages come through fine as well as " gasp" actual phone calls

    I can be reached at anytime by anyone who matters to me and have probably the greatest smartphone at my fingertips ready to go within seconds of picking it up.

    I don't understand why you feel turning off things that chew through your battery makes you feel like you have a dumb phone
    Fewer things work. I don't get synced email with wifi set to sleep until I turn on screen. I just said I don't do facebook. I actually don't do instagram either and my twitter is not synced. I do need instant notifications of email which I do not get when wifi sleeps. In fact sometimes wifi disconnects. The fewer apps you use the dumber your phone gets. If you don't like them of course you shut them down but again if you compile all the suggestions it amounts to shutting off all contact except phone and test messages. My main point was a bigger battery would have been nice
    09-26-2015 04:19 PM
  19. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Fewer things work. I don't get synced email with wifi set to sleep until I turn on screen. I just said I don't do facebook. I actually don't do instagram either and my twitter is not synced. I do need instant notifications of email which I do not get when wifi sleeps. In fact sometimes wifi disconnects. The fewer apps you use the dumber your phone gets. If you don't like them of course you shut them down but again if you compile all the suggestions it amounts to shutting off all contact except phone and test messages. My main point was a bigger battery would have been nice
    Do you have data turned off?

    I think you aren't understanding what people are shutting off. No one's phone is more restricted than yours.
    09-26-2015 04:22 PM
  20. ELAkid's Avatar
    i was getting 4 hours screen on time when this phone was new now I'm getting like 6 hours screen on time, this phone's is awesome.

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    09-26-2015 05:06 PM
  21. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    i was getting 4 hours screen on time when this phone was new now I'm getting like 6 hours screen on time, this phone's is awesome.

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    Yup, battery always seems to need to settle in on all Samsung phones at least, not sure about others since I'm a Samsung phone girl.
    09-26-2015 05:11 PM
  22. ELAkid's Avatar
    Yup, battery always seems to need to settle in on all Samsung phones at least, not sure about others since I'm a Samsung phone girl.
    I posted the wrong picture, where I was getting 4 hours and 1 minute of screen on time, but the 5 hours and 50 minutes was from today ,this battery improved big time.

    I too have become accustomed to Samsung products I find myself missing certain features when I used another OS I wasn't sure if I would jump from the note 4 to the 5 but I'm glad I did.

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    09-26-2015 05:17 PM
  23. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I posted the wrong picture, where I was getting 4 hours and 1 minute of screen on time, but the 5 hours and 50 minutes was from today ,this battery improved big time.

    I too have become accustomed to Samsung products I find myself missing certain features when I used another OS I wasn't sure if I would jump from the note 4 to the 5 but I'm glad I did.

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    I might like other phones better, not sure. I've just always had good phones with my Samsung phones. TouchWiz doesn't bother me, all my androids but my first, have been Samsung, so I'm used to it. Also I use Nova. The other thing is the superior customer service I get from Samsung. There isn't one thing I ever ask them to do, they don't agree to, even not charging me for a screen replacement when they were two days late getting it back to me.
    09-26-2015 05:26 PM
  24. ELAkid's Avatar
    I might like other phones better, not sure. I've just always had good phones with my Samsung phones. TouchWiz doesn't bother me, all my androids but my first, have been Samsung, so I'm used to it. Also I use Nova. The other thing is the superior customer service I get from Samsung. There isn't one thing I ever ask them to do, they don't agree to, even not charging me for a screen replacement when they were two days late getting it back to me.
    TouchWiz doesn't bother me either, I went from the s4 to the note 4 then note 5 ,before my s4 I had an HTC thunderbolt and it was a nightmare. I've had a few different phones but as of now Samsung has worked for me.

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    09-26-2015 05:36 PM
  25. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    TouchWiz doesn't bother me either, I went from the s4 to the note 4 then note 5 ,before my s4 I had an HTC thunderbolt and it was a nightmare. I've had a few different phones but as of now Samsung has worked for me.

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    Well I've had the S, S3, S5, S6 Edge, Note 1, Note 2, Note 3, Note 4 and Note 5. If I'm not used to and ok with TouchWiz by now, I won't ever be lol.
    09-26-2015 05:43 PM
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