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  1. 21stNow's Avatar
    The lack of SD card support and user replaceable batteries is not going to stop someone who wants the Note 5 from buying the Note 5.

    Samsung is not in trouble.
    It stopped me.

    I don't see how you can even say that being that there is another thread on here that have users like me (have owned every Note phone including the Edge) saying that we will not buy the Note 5, that you even participated in.
    08-20-2015 06:51 PM
  2. 21stNow's Avatar
    As a new owner of a Note 5, your post is quite the hyperbole. This is an amazing phone. Go to Best Buy and play with one.

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Note 5.
    I went to AT&T to see one. I wasn't impressed. To be honest, the only thing that was going to impress me was the ability to take notes on the screen while the phone is in sleep mode. Since the store models are in demo mode and the S Pen was removed, I couldn't test out that feature. I couldn't care less about how the phone looks. The weight was almost too light in my opinion, but it's not a big deal to me. I also couldn't care less about the camera or the glass back of the phone.

    That said, if the Note 5 had a removable battery and a micro-SD card slot, I would have bought it.
    08-20-2015 07:10 PM
  3. Ry's Avatar
    It stopped me.

    I don't see how you can even say that being that there is another thread on here that have users like me (have owned every Note phone including the Edge) saying that we will not buy the Note 5, that you even participated in.
    ..which means you don't want the Note 5 so you're not buying the Note 5.

    ..

    Posted via Android Central App (Moto X)
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    08-20-2015 10:12 PM
  4. rushmore's Avatar
    ..which means you don't want the Note 5 so you're not buying the Note 5.

    ..

    Posted via Android Central App (Moto X)
    Every time I see your signature I keep thinking about the 3000mah in the Moto X Pure and the 5.7" 1440p LCD is has to feed. Two weeks maybe to see if concern is warranted.
    08-20-2015 10:47 PM
  5. rushmore's Avatar
    Well they've changed a lot this year to try to stop the slide. If people are buying less of your product you don't keep doing the same thing. They stopped coasting and created a new and awesome note.
    Except consensus from analysts is Samsung gained share when some Apple users got tired of small displays, but jumped pack when the 6 and 6+ were released. Those people that bailed went back and account for most of the marginal increase and subsequent decrease in growth. Samsung seems to be chasing a red herring by thinking it was their device.
    08-20-2015 10:53 PM
  6. Almeuit's Avatar
    Every time I see your signature I keep thinking about the 3000mah in the Moto X Pure and the 5.7" 1440p LCD is has to feed. Two weeks maybe to see if concern is warranted.
    Hm? What is the issue with it feeding that screen?
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    08-20-2015 10:59 PM
  7. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Every time I see your signature I keep thinking about the 3000mah in the Moto X Pure and the 5.7" 1440p LCD is has to feed. Two weeks maybe to see if concern is warranted.
    Hm? What is the issue with it feeding that screen?
    I'll find out very soon. I'm getting the 2015 Moto X Pure as soon as it is available to order.
    08-20-2015 11:16 PM
  8. Almeuit's Avatar
    I'll find out very soon. I'm getting the 2015 Moto X Pure as soon as it is available to order.
    Likewise .
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    08-20-2015 11:22 PM
  9. centerwaters's Avatar
    It stopped me.

    I don't see how you can even say that being that there is another thread on here that have users like me (have owned every Note phone including the Edge) saying that we will not buy the Note 5, that you even participated in.

    I didn't want to give in to Samsung. But there is no other phone that's as nice as the Note 5 and also has SD card slot and removable battery. Some people suggested the LG G4, but that phone has got a crappy screen, when compared next to the Note 4 and Note 5 screens.
    Attached Thumbnails I think Samsung is in trouble-missing-cat-poster.jpg  
    08-21-2015 04:29 AM
  10. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    I didn't want to give in to Samsung. But there is no other phone that's as nice as the Note 5 and also has SD card slot and removable battery. Some people suggested the LG G4, but that phone has got a crappy screen, when compared next to the Note 4 and Note 5 screens.

    http://i.imgur.com/o4teFL7.jpg
    Mind telling me why you think the G4's screen is crap?

    Just asking. Curious, that's all
    08-21-2015 06:14 AM
  11. 21stNow's Avatar
    ..which means you don't want the Note 5 so you're not buying the Note 5.

    ..

    Posted via Android Central App (Moto X)
    Then your comment that I quoted doesn't make any sense. I wanted Samsung's next iteration of the Note when I bought the Note Edge in 2014. The only things that stopped me were the lack of a removable battery or micro-SD card slot.
    08-21-2015 08:24 AM
  12. jam4775's Avatar
    Samsung's latest financial reporting session showed disappointing sales of the S6, and they admitted they underestimated the demand for the S6 Edge. By the time they figured out the mistake and increased Edge shipments, it was too late...the buzz had worn off. I see more of the same for the Note/S6 Edge +, as it seems Samsung is not doing a good job of understanding what their consumers want.

    I believe the root cause is a dramatic shift in Samsung's approach to phones and tablets. They want to be Apple 2.0, but have missed the bulk of the premium phone market already as most people who can afford the top of the line phones are seeing fewer reasons to upgrade every year for incremental feature enhancements. They have shifted the design of their top tier tablets to the same diminsions of iPads, but waited to do this until iPad sales had already started a large decline....again, too late to the premium game.

    There used to be complaints about Samsung's cheap hardware design (plastic backs, etc), but the phones still sold well. I believe they did need to improve in the hardware design area, and this year's models are indeed beautiful. However, they dropped many of the features that were differentiators between them and Apple, like removeable batteries, SD cards, IR blasters, water proofing (for the S5 anyway), etc. So now they have fewer feature advantages, little to no price advantage, have alienated a significant portion of their core users, and are facing a rapidly increasing set of Android competitors that offer good or better quality phones often at much lower prices.

    I hope I'm wrong. My last 3 phones have been the Note 4, Note 3, and S3. But as nice as the new phones look, things that matter to me are no longer available in the Samsung top tier. I'm gonna start looking at other vendors, and I'm guessing many others will as well.

    What do you think?
    You have a great point here... In the past a lot of people complained about the Galaxy line not being as premium as iPhone and even the HTC One's but they still sold very well. Why was that? There's always going to be a trade off between design and features. I think Samsung excelled before because of their features they had over their competitors... but now that they are aligning themselves this closely to their competitors with their features and design I'm not so sure this is going to increase sales for them.

    I personally thought the Note 4 was awesome design with it's metal frame and sides and the great soft touch plastic back... I think it was the perfect compromise between design and features. I honestly thought they were going to go down the same design road with the S6 as they did with the Note 4... I think they would have been better off... and I think this would have better aliened themselves with the core market that they were getting good sales with before. And now time will only tell for the Note 5.
    08-21-2015 08:43 AM
  13. kodos's Avatar
    Now that Samsung ditched the horrible plastic build - I am buying my very first Galaxy Note this morning. As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing like it on the market right now. I'm trading in my S6 Edge, which just proved to be a little small for my tastes, and I want the pen. I've gotten hooked to having a pen for signing documents, and taking quick notes on my Surface Pro 3, but I don't always have that device on me - so this would be a good fit for me.

    A removable battery is a non-issue for me because I have a battery pack that I have in my backpack for worst case scenarios (I can also charge my tablet, and my wife's iPhone on it). Coming from iPhones, I've never had an SD card before so cannot say I will miss it either, though I do think they could have made a provision to keep the SD card slot. Removable batteries add bulk to devices. I'm glad its gone.
    08-21-2015 09:31 AM
  14. smoothrunnings's Avatar
    Samsung itself isn't in any trouble. Their smartphone department might be stumbling a little bit to get a better grasp on the market, but all companies do that eventually. I think we'll see them get back on board within the next couple of years with no big loss to them.

    Samsung as a hole has 450,000 plus people working for them. The have their hands in everything. They were the ones two built the two tallest towers in the world. Smartphone's is just a very tiny peace of their overall business.
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    08-21-2015 09:42 AM
  15. anon395528's Avatar
    I am not concerned at all. The phone business is the hot babe standing in the storefront.....Samsung corporate has so many other technology entities they can afford to go with the ebb and flow. HTC made a great phone but they are really just in the phone business. Microsoft failed (I bought the Nokia phablet...great phone, terrible app store) because they are a software house...that is it and they will never learn. Apple is cash rich so they can fail for years and no one would notice. This Note 5 is the best phone I have ever had....I really don't care about the removable battery now and the SD card issue. I trust the process and just use the tool.
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    08-21-2015 10:05 AM
  16. centerwaters's Avatar
    Mind telling me why you think the G4's screen is crap?

    Just asking. Curious, that's all
    It looked great, until I placed it next to the Note 4. I think I'm just way too used to how AMOLED screens look.
    08-21-2015 11:33 AM
  17. jam4775's Avatar
    Now that Samsung ditched the horrible plastic build - I am buying my very first Galaxy Note this morning. As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing like it on the market right now. I'm trading in my S6 Edge, which just proved to be a little small for my tastes, and I want the pen. I've gotten hooked to having a pen for signing documents, and taking quick notes on my Surface Pro 3, but I don't always have that device on me - so this would be a good fit for me.

    A removable battery is a non-issue for me because I have a battery pack that I have in my backpack for worst case scenarios (I can also charge my tablet, and my wife's iPhone on it). Coming from iPhones, I've never had an SD card before so cannot say I will miss it either, though I do think they could have made a provision to keep the SD card slot. Removable batteries add bulk to devices. I'm glad its gone.
    Well have fun with that battery pack when after a year when that non-removable battery has lost as much as 33% of it's capacity. And what's even funner is the more often you use that battery pack the quicker that non-removable battery loses it's capacity, enjoy! But coming from iPhone you're I guess you're also used to this.
    08-21-2015 11:35 AM
  18. rushmore's Avatar
    Now that Samsung ditched the horrible plastic build - I am buying my very first Galaxy Note this morning. As far as I'm concerned, there's nothing like it on the market right now. I'm trading in my S6 Edge, which just proved to be a little small for my tastes, and I want the pen. I've gotten hooked to having a pen for signing documents, and taking quick notes on my Surface Pro 3, but I don't always have that device on me - so this would be a good fit for me.

    A removable battery is a non-issue for me because I have a battery pack that I have in my backpack for worst case scenarios (I can also charge my tablet, and my wife's iPhone on it). Coming from iPhones, I've never had an SD card before so cannot say I will miss it either, though I do think they could have made a provision to keep the SD card slot. Removable batteries add bulk to devices. I'm glad its gone.
    I like the look of the Note 5, but find it too slippery to use without a case and a case means back to some form of plastic A harder case and this device will not have a happy conclusion if dropped.
    08-21-2015 12:09 PM
  19. rushmore's Avatar
    It looked great, until I placed it next to the Note 4. I think I'm just way too used to how AMOLED screens look.
    Same here. The G4 has a good screen though and looks a LOT better than the G3 (yikes). This is another reason concerned about the Moto X Pure, but as others say- Won't know until actually using it.
    08-21-2015 12:11 PM
  20. Ry's Avatar
    Then your comment that I quoted doesn't make any sense. I wanted Samsung's next iteration of the Note when I bought the Note Edge in 2014. The only things that stopped me were the lack of a removable battery or micro-SD card slot.
    Simply put - you don't like that the Note 5 lacks a feature or features you want thus you don't like the Note 5 and you won't buy the Note 5.
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    08-21-2015 02:00 PM
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