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  1. med322's Avatar
    Has there been any info on how to get accepted into the Samsung Pay beta trial that's going to start on August 25th in the US?
    08-20-2015 08:47 AM
  2. Bkayrac's Avatar
    If you find out, let me know.

    With the ability to pay at ANY terminal that lets you swipe your card(basically everywhere in existence). This will be quite the game changer as NFC is not available at many places, so google wallet is limited. But samsung pay will be able to be used everywhere, and I plan on using it at every opportunity for more security as it doesn't actually use your card, but a temporary card that it submits, which is simply linked to your card.
    co.ag.2005 and James8561 like this.
    08-21-2015 09:38 PM
  3. baggyp's Avatar
    It may be a closed Beta (reps, employees, and a select few). I looked around for anything that resembled an invite or something to that effect and came up with nothing.
    08-21-2015 11:03 PM
  4. med322's Avatar
    Anyone heard anything?
    08-25-2015 10:21 AM
  5. Yellowfddriver's Avatar
    Nope. Maybe somebody forgot?

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    08-25-2015 11:34 AM
  6. AdamHLG's Avatar
    We may not even get the actual released feature on Verizon and you guys are worried about getting a working beta? Dream big!

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    08-25-2015 05:05 PM
  7. med322's Avatar
    We may not even get the actual released feature on Verizon and you guys are worried about getting a working beta? Dream big!

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    Sorry I couldn't care less about Verizon. Dropped that pathetic carrier long ago.
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    08-25-2015 05:59 PM
  8. Dhawk1202's Avatar
    https://forums.androidcentral.com/e?...token=SgYqku-o

    Here it is! The beta has some card stipulations, but I'm signed up, just waiting for my invite. Hope the tech is as cool as it sounds.

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    08-27-2015 09:18 AM
  9. Dhawk1202's Avatar
    I've been schooled in the comment section, and this is pretty limited to a couple banks. Thankfully I have one of those banks. Bank of America and us bank. So far....

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    08-27-2015 09:51 AM
  10. Glock23-G4's Avatar
    Is this going to be an issue?



    Bank of America issued us new cards with the chips on the front (still has strip on back), and so did Cabela's. At Walmart yesterday, it wouldn't let me swipe my card...said I had to insert it.

    So if we can no longer swipe a chipped card at places that have the chip reader, will we be able to "swipe" those cards with Samsung Pay?
    08-27-2015 10:22 AM
  11. Bkayrac's Avatar
    This is talking about gas stations, when you push your card into the machine at the pump to pre-pay before you fill.

    Not at the register where you 'swipe' your card.
    08-27-2015 11:59 AM
  12. Glock23-G4's Avatar
    This is talking about gas stations, when you push your card into the machine at the pump to pre-pay before you fill.

    Not at the register where you 'swipe' your card.
    Many companies are adding chips to the card, as it is more secure. They're keeping the magnetic strips in the meantime, as not all retailers have the chip readers yet.

    On Walmart's readers, you can either swipe down the right side to read the magnetic strip, or you can insert your card into the bottom of the reader, much like at an atm or gas pump, but it reads the chip instead of the strip.

    So basically, these cards are no longer "swipe-able" everywhere.
    08-27-2015 12:53 PM
  13. Bkayrac's Avatar
    Many companies are adding chips to the card, as it is more secure. They're keeping the magnetic strips in the meantime, as not all retailers have the chip readers yet.

    On Walmart's readers, you can either swipe down the right side to read the magnetic strip, or you can insert your card into the bottom of the reader, much like at an atm or gas pump, but it reads the chip instead of the strip.

    So basically, these cards are no longer "swipe-able" everywhere.
    I was not aware any walmart had a system that let you slide the card into it. Never seen them. And I know about the chips, as of right now, the chips on my cards are basically worthless.

    That may pose a problem if it doesn't let you swipe the card then, yes.
    08-27-2015 12:54 PM
  14. buzzy3970's Avatar
    Just curious for everyone that's been able to successfully register a card with Samsung Pay. How is it going? Have you been able to use it without it crashing? Have you tried the mst or just nfc. Wouldn't have to ask but I'm on Verizon so I have to live through everyone else who isn't lol...
    08-27-2015 01:04 PM
  15. dridas's Avatar
    Retailers will be required to upgrade to EFV (I think that's the right acronym, but it's chip readers) by Oct 1st. Any retailer that doesn't will be held liable for credit card fraud processed on their machines.

    The chip reader thing is being pushed by credit card companies in order to combat credit card fraud, and to move the liability of CC fraud on to merchants and holders vice the actual banks. Or at least that is what my bank has said in their website.

    Samsung Pay is supposed to work with magstrip and EFV readers. The limitation of gas pumps is the switch in the back of the reader that activates the mag strip reader.

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    08-27-2015 01:18 PM
  16. Bkayrac's Avatar
    Retailers will be required to upgrade to EFV (I think that's the right acronym, but it's chip readers) by Oct 1st. Any retailer that doesn't will be held liable for credit card fraud processed on their machines.

    The chip reader thing is being pushed by credit card companies in order to combat credit card fraud, and to move the liability of CC fraud on to merchants and holders vice the actual banks. Or at least that is what my bank has said in their website.

    Samsung Pay is supposed to work with magstrip and EFV readers. The limitation of gas pumps is the switch in the back of the reader that activates the mag strip reader.

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    It's the banks that are required to be chip compliant by oct 1st, retailers probably not so much.(i'll edit to include a link after, this will be my 10th post so I can post links)

    http://www.creditcards.com/credit-ca...swers-1264.php

    However, once everyone goes to chip, samsung pay is no longer useful as google wallet serves the exact same purpose once everyone can take NFC. So samsung may have a useless piece of hardware :|
    08-27-2015 01:24 PM
  17. dridas's Avatar
    It's the banks that are required to be chip compliant by oct 1st, retailers probably not so much.(i'll edit to include a link after, this will be my 10th post so I can post links)

    http://www.creditcards.com/credit-ca...swers-1264.php

    However, once everyone goes to chip, samsung pay is no longer useful as google wallet serves the exact same purpose once everyone can take NFC. So samsung may have a useless piece of hardware :|
    Actually, reading you link, fraud liability falls back to who ever in the chain is the least EFV compliant. If banks have issued the chipped cards, and the merchant is not EFV compliant, liability would fall back to the merchant.

    You bring up an interesting point on Samsung Pay and it being useless at EFV compliant devices. I watched a lady at target who swiped her credit card and was told it would work because it had a chip, and had to insert the chip into the reader. I think Samsung Pay is relying heavily on magnetic card readers sticking around for a while, although those that are EFV compliant may also be NFC capable as well. Therefore, Samsung Pay becomes an tool that can be used like Apple pay, Google wallet, or smart card.

    All speculative at present, but I'd love to hear from somebody that is doing the beta in the us.

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    08-27-2015 02:37 PM
  18. Glock23-G4's Avatar
    I watched a lady at target who swiped her credit card and was told it would work because it had a chip, and had to insert the chip into the reader.
    This is what happened to me at Walmart with my new Cabela's card... it wouldnt let me swipe it.
    08-27-2015 02:53 PM
  19. Dhawk1202's Avatar
    I have a chipped card and just swiped at target today. It seems to work either way.

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    08-27-2015 03:31 PM
  20. Dhawk1202's Avatar
    No invites yet. They've only started the sign up process. Invites arrive in the coming days.

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    08-27-2015 03:34 PM
  21. TheDonJ77's Avatar
    I signed up for it, here's to hoping I get picked to try it out.
    08-27-2015 03:54 PM
  22. soldier45's Avatar
    Is this going to be an issue?

    https://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/08...f901034a64.jpg

    Bank of America issued us new cards with the chips on the front (still has strip on back), and so did Cabela's. At Walmart yesterday, it wouldn't let me swipe my card...said I had to insert it.

    So if we can no longer swipe a chipped card at places that have the chip reader, will we be able to "swipe" those cards with Samsung Pay?
    So this will be practically useless to most people including me who use these types of terminals every day...
    08-27-2015 04:50 PM
  23. Paul Paradis's Avatar
    I was not aware any walmart had a system that let you slide the card into it. Never seen them. And I know about the chips, as of right now, the chips on my cards are basically worthless.

    That may pose a problem if it doesn't let you swipe the card then, yes.
    Most of the new readers are not active yet. Not sure what the timetable on them being active, or what the hold up is.
    08-27-2015 04:51 PM
  24. Paul Paradis's Avatar
    So this will be practically useless to most people including me who use these types of terminals every day...
    Nope. That picture clearly shows a new style card reader being used with Samsung Pay.
    Samsung Pay US Beta Trial (Aug 25)?-smartselectimage_2015-08-27-16-56-35.png
    08-27-2015 04:54 PM
  25. E Padilla's Avatar
    I don't think Samsung would roll out this software if it was going to be obsolete in a month or two. Samsung Pay will probably provide a security certificate unto the device that will allow for chipped cards to be used as normal.
    08-27-2015 07:10 PM
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