[mu5ic92]

How can I delete the bloat application preinstalled on the note 5? I know you can disable but I would like to uninstall. I am aware that root might not yet be able available but maybe someone has an idea of how to do it?

[Crashdamage]

If there's no uninstall option the only way to trash them is rooting. Why not just disable? It effectively does the same thing and uninstalling won't gain any space anyway. Bloatware is installed in /system but apps are in /data.

Android since v1.0. Linux user since 2001.

[B. Diddy]

Hey Crashdamage, wouldn't rooting and uninstalling bloat still free up Internal Storage for the user?

[mu5ic92]

If there's no uninstall option the only way to trash them is rooting. Why not just disable? It effectively does the same thing and uninstalling won't gain any space anyway. Bloatware is installed in /system but apps are in /data.

Android since v1.0. Linux user since 2001.

Hey Crashdamage, wouldn't rooting and uninstalling bloat still free up Internal Storage for the user?

Good question, I would imagine it would feel some storage up. I personally like to install apps as user apps rather then system. For example almost all of google apps are installed as system apps.

[Crashdamage]

Hey Crashdamage, wouldn't rooting and uninstalling bloat still free up Internal Storage for the user?

No. Like I said, bloatware goes in /system, user-installed apps go in /data. That's why root is needed to remove the crapware.

Open a terminal and:
$ df
...hit enter and look at the line starting with /data to see space for apps, email, text messages, etc.

Good question, I would imagine it would feel some storage up. I personally like to install apps as user apps rather then system. For example almost all of google apps are installed as system apps.

See above. You are correct about Google apps. But to be clear, you have no choice about whether apps you install are user or system. Anything you install will go in /data.


Android since v1.0. Linux since 2001.

[anon(5630457)]

Bloatware can't be deleted; however, if you go into your application manager, you can disable the bloatware.

That's one of the first things I usually do. The AT&T version of the Note 5 is filled with bloat.

[B. Diddy]

No. Like I said, bloatware goes in /system, user-installed apps go in /data. That's why root is needed to remove the crapware.

Right. But if you free up space in /system, can /data use that space? Is Internal Storage totally unified--that is, is it one big pool of storage that each partition can use freely? Or is there a set amount of Internal Storage reserved for /system, and the rest for data? I ask this out of technical curiosity, not as a rhetorical question.

[Crashdamage]

Right. But if you free up space in /system, can /data use that space? Is Internal Storage totally unified--that is, is it one big pool of storage that each partition can use freely? Or is there a set amount of Internal Storage reserved for /system, and the rest for data? I ask this out of technical curiosity, not as a rhetorical question.

No. Doesn't work that way. Space in /system cannot be used by /data. Look at it this way: Even if it was one big happy pool of space, /system and /data have different user permissions.

IOW, it just ain't happening.

Android since v1.0. Linux since 2001.