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  1. Mitoman5's Avatar
    If you don't care about the fingerprint sensor or the Samsung pay feature then note 4 is a good alternative. I'm really liking forward to these features, and actually love the fingerprint sensor so...

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    09-01-2015 12:42 PM
  2. zeuswsu's Avatar
    Or the GPS lock issues many of us had that was utterly annoying. Outside the known gripes (non-removable battery, no SD expansion, missing IR blaster), I'd challenge anyone here to point out anything the Note 4 did/does better than the Note 5. As for OP's question. I'm sure with the Note 5 out you can get deals on new and used Note 4's. You'll need at least a 64GB Note 5 so the price difference between the two will be substantial. So unless the gripes are show stoppers the Note 5's the better overall device but at a price premium.
    For sure. The navigation was so bad on my note 4 that it was becoming a safety issue. It kept jumping around to streets that paralleled the road I was actually on. None of those issues on the 5.

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    09-01-2015 01:18 PM
  3. njshoremom4gurlz's Avatar
    I need a good GPS why would Google maps not work on the note 4? Was it always or when lollipop came?


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    09-01-2015 09:26 PM
  4. BarryH_GEG's Avatar
    I need a good GPS why would Google maps not work on the note 4? Was it always or when lollipop came?
    Do a search for GPS on the Note 4 forums. It's a well known and discussed issue.
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    09-01-2015 10:16 PM
  5. njshoremom4gurlz's Avatar
    I won't be getting it I heavily rely on the GPS next year I trade in my suv next one I'll make sure it has one in. I don't feel like buying a GPS when the phone works perfect for it
    Thank You so much!
    I remember the note 2 having problems too.... That was such an awesome phone too thou lol
    When time comes I'll grab the note 5. I'm basically bored w iPhone not that there's anything wrong not even a blip. I really just love android


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    09-03-2015 09:30 AM
  6. Sammuel1973's Avatar
    Do a search for GPS on the Note 4 forums. It's a well known and discussed issue.
    I wonder if the new update 5.1.1 would solve it, cuz I just got a new Note 4 replacement with that update out of the box, no GPS issue. My previous Note 4 did have the issue, so maybe the new update would solve it?
    09-03-2015 09:53 AM
  7. BergerKing's Avatar
    I originally considered getting the Note 4 over the Note 5, until I saw 4GB of RAM on the Note 5. I forgot about the non-removable battery and my disappointment over the loss of the SD card decreased.
    Bingo. The analogy I use is that the processor is your engine, in your sports car of a phone, and RAM is the racetrack. You put a Ferrari on a go-kart track, you aren't gonna be able to go very fast.

    While you cannot use expandable memory for an internal microSD card, you can use an adapter and a card via USB, or one of those handy dual-ended drives that SanDisk makes. I have one of those in a keychain pill bottle, and they are nice to carry along. I'm sure the folks at Mophie are working on a juice pack for extended battery life.

    As far as RAM goes, an additional thought, so far, from my experience with Lollipop, I think it runs better with the extra room to roll. Hearing the issues some have on the 4, and what I had with my previous device, it just seems logical.
    09-05-2015 03:29 AM
  8. chesterdawg's Avatar
    I was planning to upgrade my note 3 to a note 5 soon. Changed my mind when I found out it has a sealed battery. I have four batteries for my note 3 and use two to three batteries per day. What were they thinking?

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    09-05-2015 08:45 AM
  9. bhatech's Avatar
    I was planning to upgrade my note 3 to a note 5 soon. Changed my mind when I found out it has a sealed battery. I have four batteries for my note 3 and use two to three batteries per day. What were they thinking?

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    They were thinking about design and produced one beauty of a phone. They can't please everybody since anything any manufacturer does people will complain something or the other. As far as removable battery I get that some tiny percent used to swap the battery when needed but with quick charging it's not a big deal now a days. I get there are instances when you are outside removable battery comes handy but just carry a power bank or something and charge it up if needed. Slowly all OEMs are moving to better design and non removable batteries so if you don't change then you probably will be stuck with older gen phones. LG is the last among them and given how they follow Samsung, I bet they start changing their design next year.

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    09-05-2015 09:27 AM
  10. Sammuel1973's Avatar
    They were thinking about design and produced one beauty of a phone. They can't please everybody since anything any manufacturer does people will complain something or the other. As far as removable battery I get that some tiny percent used to swap the battery when needed but with quick charging it's not a big deal now a days. I get there are instances when you are outside removable battery comes handy but just carry a power bank or something and charge it up if needed. Slowly all OEMs are moving to better design and non removable batteries so if you don't change then you probably will be stuck with older gen phones. LG is the last among them and given how they follow Samsung, I bet they start changing their design next year.

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    I think Samsung could have done 2 variants of the Note 5, without compromising the "beauty" like they did with the Note 4 with a metal frame but with a plastic back. The Note 4 was/is gorgeous. They just announced the new Gear S2 with 2 variants, and the new Tab S2 is mostly metal but with a plastic back, so in essence the beauty doesn't need to be compromised. If they think an all metal phone would increase their sales, they're wrong. The latest quarter still shows an all metal IPhone is still king in the U.S., despite their gorgeous S6 and S6E.

    As for swappable batteries, I use 2 a day since I often have CNN live video in the background, on the wknds, I have an extra one. The external power bank, etc are way too cumbersome. Besides, would you want to spend 20 minutes to be 100% again or 30 seconds?
    09-05-2015 10:09 AM
  11. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    People have been asking to do away with the polycarbonate phones for years now. Several of us said what would happen when they did.

    The people asked, Samsung listened and delivered and now people are mad they got what they asked for.
    09-05-2015 11:11 AM
  12. bhatech's Avatar
    People have been asking to do away with the polycarbonate phones for years now. Several of us said what would happen when they did.

    The people asked, Samsung listened and delivered and now people are mad they got what they asked for.
    Well there are always people with different tastes, no company can satisfy all user preference. Whatever you do the other half will not be satisfied so you will see similar posts on every phone.

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    09-05-2015 11:21 AM
  13. BarryH_GEG's Avatar
    What were they thinking?
    That the 5% of people that swap batteries daily are expendable compared to the millions of prospects influenced by design. Design is the seventh highest smartphone selection criteria whereas removable batteries didn't make the list at all. It's not like sealed batteries keep phones from being successful (EG: Apple, Nexus). The harsh reality is Samsung was fully aware they'd lose a subset of customers so you my friend have been rendered obsolete. I believe LG has what you're looking for. ;
    09-05-2015 11:55 AM
  14. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Well there are always people with different tastes, no company can satisfy all user preference. Whatever you do the other half will not be satisfied so you will see similar posts on every phone.

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    Oh but Samsung users have been complaining for a long time and wanting premium material on the phone. With a phone this size, there is only so much that can be done to keep the weight and bulk down.

    I've been around here long before I ever started posting. My comment was about one thing.. Samsung owners have been complaining for years they wanted "premium" materials on their phones.

    Well that is what Samsung did.
    09-05-2015 11:58 AM
  15. Sammuel1973's Avatar
    Well there are always people with different tastes, no company can satisfy all user preference. Whatever you do the other half will not be satisfied so you will see similar posts on every phone.

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    That's why I think the 2 variants would satisfy most in terms of the battery issue. When the Note 4 came out last year, most bloggers and end users were thrilled to see the metal frame and overall design and material choice (an improvement from the Note 3) for a device that is known for a production device that uses much more power than the S series. I can understand the S series for all metal/glass, but the Note series too? Samsung was misguided, imo.
    09-05-2015 11:59 AM
  16. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    That's why I think the 2 variants would satisfy most in terms of the battery issue. When the Note 4 came out last year, most bloggers and end users were thrilled to see the metal frame and overall design and material choice (an improvement from the Note 3) for a device that is known for a production device that uses much more power than the S series. I can understand the S series for all metal/glass, but the Note series too? Samsung was misguided, imo.
    Actually many thought they were glad and learned differently later. That metal frame scratched immediately, and sometimes just removing a case from the phone.

    It was also much heavier than the Note 3 and the only Note phone I've ever had that actually made my hands hurt after a long day.

    SD cards are going away in premium phones and it seems that sealed battery phones actually have less issues. Sealed batteries also aren't new in Android, Samsung didn't start that.
    09-05-2015 12:26 PM
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