10-06-2015 04:29 PM
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  1. crazyralph90's Avatar
    Was told by a rep at the Verizon store today he took training on Samsung Pay. So I think this means people on big red will get support after all?

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    09-10-2015 12:42 AM
  2. jdhooghe's Avatar
    That's fantastic news!

    from my smexy Note 5
    09-10-2015 02:08 AM
  3. crazyralph90's Avatar
    Yeah I was surprised when he told me!

    Posted via the Android Central App
    09-10-2015 11:07 AM
  4. cav22's Avatar
    Are you sure it wasn't Android Pay? Not everyone is as up to date on the differences...
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    09-10-2015 11:11 AM
  5. jlilnc14's Avatar
    i hope it was samsung pay, but android pay was announced today...
    09-10-2015 12:33 PM
  6. crazyralph90's Avatar
    The kid did seem pretty air headed..damn I forgot about Android Pay

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    09-10-2015 06:44 PM
  7. ctk4949's Avatar
    Android Pay works on Verizon tho. I have used it a couple of times for things I dont need, lol.

    eff you verizon!!
    09-10-2015 07:16 PM
  8. Raptor007's Avatar
    I am thinking that Verizon is blocking Samsung Pay so Android Pay gets a leg up since Google purchased ISIS (SoftCard) from the carriers. May be part of the deal.
    09-10-2015 08:33 PM
  9. dridas's Avatar
    So, if I understand this correctly, Android Pay IS Google Wallet, but with a different launch mechanism. Instead of having to launch the app, you'll just have to unlock your phone, tap the device and wala, it works. So essentially, it's the same as Google Wallet. So, VZW is going to support Android Pay, which is something more than they have done with Google Wallet over the past 2 years? Just seems silly. I'm praying they are supporting Samsung Pay. To not support it would be complete bafoonery.
    09-10-2015 09:04 PM
  10. bhatech's Avatar
    Amazing people use this crap carrier just in the name of bogus best network. How can one tolerate the crap this useless carrier puts every time, block services which they have no right to do so, crap nice looking phones with the ugliest logo ever, create trouble activating phones not sold from them, put so much crap in the firmware. Other carrier coverage is plenty enough for majority of folks, they just lazy to switch over and ditch useless Verizon.

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    09-10-2015 09:34 PM
  11. bplink95's Avatar
    Amazing people use this crap carrier just in the name of bogus best network. How can one tolerate the crap this useless carrier puts every time, block services which they have no right to do so, crap nice looking phones with the ugliest logo ever, create trouble activating phones not sold from them, put so much crap in the firmware. Other carrier coverage is plenty enough for majority of folks, they just lazy to switch over and ditch useless Verizon.

    Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
    And steal your headphones out of the box lol

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    09-11-2015 12:02 AM
  12. pdub73's Avatar
    Amazing people use this crap carrier just in the name of bogus best network. How can one tolerate the crap this useless carrier puts every time, block services which they have no right to do so, crap nice looking phones with the ugliest logo ever, create trouble activating phones not sold from them, put so much crap in the firmware. Other carrier coverage is plenty enough for majority of folks, they just lazy to switch over and ditch useless Verizon.

    Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
    They're the best carrier in my area, and now they are NO LONGER the most expensive, they get the best signal coverage, fastest data speeds, and I got my note 5 on Wednesday when it didn't go in sale til that Friday, I did the stupid backwards S pen thing, they replaced it no questions asked, the new phone came and the WiFi didn't work properly, they replaced it, no questions asked and even let me keep the fast charger from the 2nd phone when I got the 3rd one....so even though most of what you're saying is true, they are not that bad.
    Harlemknight likes this.
    09-12-2015 12:27 PM
  13. beh's Avatar
    Amazing people use this crap carrier just in the name of bogus best network. How can one tolerate the crap this useless carrier puts every time, block services which they have no right to do so, crap nice looking phones with the ugliest logo ever, create trouble activating phones not sold from them, put so much crap in the firmware. Other carrier coverage is plenty enough for majority of folks, they just lazy to switch over and ditch useless Verizon.

    Sent from my SM-N920T using Tapatalk
    From my experience with Verizon and predecessors over the length and wide of the US I know for a fact that Verizon is the only carrier with coverage over almost the complete country. Even the high plateau deserts of eastern OR and WA have coverage over many parts to them. So I would suggest that your opinion of "bogus coverage" is a bit over the top.
    While I have had issues now and again with Verizon overall they have been a very easy company to deal with when I needed something taken care of. And also from my personal experience they are far more customer friendly than AT&T.
    Does that mean I like that sometimes Verizon seems determined to do really dumb things like block useful features. No it doesn't. But over the long haul Verizon has treated far better than other carriers. And in the case of Samsung Pay, I believe it will be made available but on Verizon's schedule not ours.
    09-12-2015 05:04 PM
  14. bhatech's Avatar
    From my experience with Verizon and predecessors over the length and wide of the US I know for a fact that Verizon is the only carrier with coverage over almost the complete country. Even the high plateau deserts of eastern OR and WA have coverage over many parts to them. So I would suggest that your opinion of "bogus coverage" is a bit over the top.
    While I have had issues now and again with Verizon overall they have been a very easy company to deal with when I needed something taken care of. And also from my personal experience they are far more customer friendly than AT&T.
    Does that mean I like that sometimes Verizon seems determined to do really dumb things like block useful features. No it doesn't. But over the long haul Verizon has treated far better than other carriers. And in the case of Samsung Pay, I believe it will be made available but on Verizon's schedule not ours.
    Why the hell should an OEM (Samsung) feature should be determined by a carrier? They shouldn't be gate keeper for that.
    OK fine they have great network but just bother about network instead of messing around with phones with branding and software. Apple is the only company who knows how to treat the carriers.. Like dumb pipes.

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    09-12-2015 06:32 PM
  15. maf113's Avatar
    I agree that there is no reason for Verizon to block OEM features as long as the OEM is complying with basic rules. For example the OEM should not include a feature that compromises the network. Other than that anything else should just be allowed to operate.

    Because I travel, nationwide coverage is important. Tmobile has the low frequency band that almost doubles the distance from towers for LTE coverage. Verizon has been rather arrogant about customer retention. The CEO has stated that people leaving for lower prices does not matter. However if other companies can match or come close enough to matching Verizon's coverage verizon may see a mass exodus. Imagine good coverage, unlimited voice, text, and data at a reasonable price.

    Posted using my Verizon crippled Note 5.
    09-13-2015 08:38 AM
  16. ab304945's Avatar
    They're the best carrier in my area, and now they are NO LONGER the most expensive, they get the best signal coverage, fastest data speeds, and I got my note 5 on Wednesday when it didn't go in sale til that Friday, I did the stupid backwards S pen thing, they replaced it no questions asked, the new phone came and the WiFi didn't work properly, they replaced it, no questions asked and even let me keep the fast charger from the 2nd phone when I got the 3rd one....so even though most of what you're saying is true, they are not that bad.
    What's the fastest download did you get on Verizon

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    09-13-2015 08:47 AM
  17. metropolitim's Avatar
    if other companies can match or come close enough to matching Verizon's coverage verizon may see a mass exodus.
    A big IF. Verizon has the best coverage because they spent the most money to build the biggest network. Anyone who wants to compete with their coverage is going to have to spend similar money. And guess where they're going to get that money?


    [Verizon is] the best carrier in my area, and now they are NO LONGER the most expensive
    Exactly. Those are your two basic business models: gather Verizon-sized piles of money to compete with Verizon, or don't play to win -- knowing that Verizon continues to outspend everyone, and you're falling further and further behind on basic service.

    Sure, having Verizon respect me and not cripple my phone would be nice. But you know what REALLY cripples my phone? When I can't use it because I have no coverage.

    This is easy enough to check in your own area, btw. A number of websites show comparative maps, and other sites gather user input. In my area (Cali desert), Verizon has twice as many "best coverage" votes, but the lowest customer satisfaction rating. Sounds about right. LOL Love the coverage, no use for the company....but I want the coverage more than I want their love.

    And they want my money more than they want my love. LOL We both win. LOL


    This is starting to go off topic, so I'll try to bring it back around -- I really want Sammy Pay on VZW. I really do. But now that I have Android Pay, I'm not sure I care anymore, except on principle.

    So, for anyone using Android Pay, are you really as hungry for Samsung Pay as you were last week?
    09-13-2015 12:04 PM
  18. racedog's Avatar

    So, for anyone using Android Pay, are you really as hungry for Samsung Pay as you were last week?
    Yes, enough to leave Verizon last week and move to AT&T. In my area AT&T has made huge improvements in the last two years and their coverage is now better than Verizon's in the areas where I need and use it. Adios Verizon wish I could say it was a pleasure to know you (but it wasnt). So glad to be gone from you.
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    09-13-2015 12:18 PM
  19. ccpopham's Avatar
    The simple reason is that Verizon invested heavily in Isis which was bought by google and will be google pay. Verizon may still own a portion of Isis but Samsung pay is a direct competitor. Verizon most likely will be making money off of Google pay so they can stop the completion on their neteork.

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    09-13-2015 12:24 PM
  20. metropolitim's Avatar
    Yes, enough to leave Verizon last week and move to AT&T. In my area AT&T has made huge improvements in the last two years and their coverage is now better than Verizon's in the areas where I need and use it. .
    Good for you! Believe me, I'm no Verizon pimp. I hate those guys, and I check ALL THE TIME to see if things have changed in my area. Sprint is always the one I'm watching, because I know that they really want to beat vzw, and I like how hard they compete.

    In fact, right after I made my last post, I looked it up. Verizon comes in at #1 again, no surprise...but what shocked me is that Sprint at #2 (yay!) had only HALF of Verizon's score. (oops.) Verizon's score was comfortably bigger than Sprint and AT&T (#3 in local ranking) combined!!

    This fits with the ongoing joke in these parts that AT&T is for people who'd rather not talk to anyone on the phone, and Sprint is for people who'd rather not own a phone at all.

    But to my original question -- had you actually tried Android Pay in the last few days, discovered it was hideous, observed somebody using Samsung Pay, and found it was so wonderful that you ditched vzw for good?

    Or was it just that the idea of not having Samsung Pay was enough to make you jump? Because really, my experience with Android Pay doesn't make me feel like I need something else. I'm genuinely very impressed with it, and would be surprised to hear that somebody would try it and hate it enough to change carriers.

    Again, not pimping vzw, who I'd leave in a heartbeat if coverage would let me, and not meaning to be argumentative with you. Just looking for clarification, my friend.

    Thanks!
    09-13-2015 12:50 PM
  21. racedog's Avatar
    Ok, did not try android pay but I did use the original google wallet then Softcard. If it is via nfc then I have no interest. Too few places where it worked made it essentially pointless.
    09-13-2015 02:52 PM
  22. Eddster's Avatar
    Ok, did not try android pay but I did use the original google wallet then Softcard. If it is via nfc then I have no interest. Too few places where it worked made it essentially pointless.
    It is indeed via NFC and I agree, not enough places accept it. Some places have the necessary hardware, but they don't activate the NFC part. This is what made me excited about Samsung Pay. Hopefully Verizon will be done "evaluating" it soon.
    09-13-2015 04:14 PM
  23. dridas's Avatar
    It is indeed via NFC and I agree, not enough places accept it. Some places have the necessary hardware, but they don't activate the NFC part. This is what made me excited about Samsung Pay. Hopefully Verizon will be done "evaluating" it soon.
    I started using Google wallet, and it made me start noticing the places that don't utilize NFC, even found a lot of places that straight up disable the NFC. So, I'm excited about Sammy pay, and hope VZW completes their evaluation soon too.
    09-13-2015 05:24 PM
  24. maf113's Avatar
    Maybe if we all file a complaint with the FCC that we believe that Verizon is violating Net Neutrality, then the FCC might pressure Verizon to stop blocking OEM software. https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/h...-Open-Internet
    09-17-2015 02:52 PM
  25. dridas's Avatar
    Maybe if we all file a complaint with the FCC that we believe that Verizon is violating Net Neutrality, then the FCC might pressure Verizon to stop blocking OEM software. https://consumercomplaints.fcc.gov/h...-Open-Internet
    This is an interesting assertion, albeit you might need to stretch a little to get there. I wish somebody had the time to dig in to the Net Neutrality rules/codes, determine its applicability, and put forth the good fight. You may need to look in to the Verizon 700Mhz C-Block licence and determine what the conditions were of it being granted. I'd be very interested to see what you come up with.

    Although, at this point- Verizon has not blocked any apps, they just haven't stated that are still evaluating SamPay. When the app goes live, (28th), and it's not available to VZW customers, you may have an argument. Although, I suspect their will be an update that turns on the MST tech, but I could be wrong.
    09-17-2015 05:03 PM
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