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  1. Screamscape's Avatar
    No sign of it in my Sprint Note 5 either. Looks like it may just be AT&T.
    10-08-2015 02:10 PM
  2. Glock23-G4's Avatar
    I think you mean "could"...care less
    Couldn't care less is correct.

    Meaning you do not care at all, so it's not possible to care less than not at all.

    Could care less means that you could care less, implying that you currently care.
    10-08-2015 02:17 PM
  3. anon(9652351)'s Avatar
    Couldn't care less is correct.

    Meaning you do not care at all, so it's not possible to care less than not at all.

    Could care less means that you could care less, implying that you currently care.
    LOL you are correct, the effects of Nyquil as I sit here nursing a cold
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    10-08-2015 02:23 PM
  4. ramiss's Avatar
    Yes! Absolutely! But if folks didn't have "security" to talk about the only rants here would be about "battery life"
    You won the forum prize today!

    Sent from my SM-N920V using Tapatalk
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    10-08-2015 02:34 PM
  5. veritas_vincit's Avatar
    One reason to get a carrier free device.
    10-08-2015 04:07 PM
  6. gdgtmom's Avatar
    Yes it does.
    I have returned the phone. Looking for the N920i international version in a 64GB. There is one seller online but I'm not about to get sucker punched for $1200... Using my iPhone at the moment......Which almost sucks just as bad LOL
    Im done with all that stuff. Privacy means just that. When your privacy has been invaded before, it won't be tolerated again. Note 5 will be sold. iPhone 6s Plus in use.


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    10-08-2015 10:26 PM
  7. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Im done with all that stuff. Privacy means just that. When your privacy has been invaded before, it won't be tolerated again. Note 5 will be sold. iPhone 6s Plus in use.


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    Your privacy is invaded when you use any phone, get in the internet at all.

    Edward Snowden showed those that didn't realize, how much we are all tracked. Those that didn't know after Edward Snowden, should know now. Apple also participates in PRISM. This spying isn't new in the USA. NSA has been around since Pearl Harbor and has been spying on the American public since then, we know this, that isn't a question. This all came out during Watergate and the Church Committee Hearings.

    Other countries have been saying even longer and even more. It doesn't matter who your phone carrier is, who the phone is made by, doesn't matter if the company itself collects the data or they use a third party app.

    You don't have privacy and changing phones will not change that.

    Oh and if your government isn't doing the spying, they are having the USA or UK spy on their citizens for them.

    "If there’s one striking thing about those*PRISM*slides, other than their hideous aesthetics, it’s that Apple’s allocated yellow oval, instead of a date, has the words “(added Oct 2012)” underneath it. That difference is most striking when you consider the fact that Apple competitor Microsoft cooperated with the government a full five years earlier.

    The company, which*denies*ever having heard of PRISM, released its FISA request numbers today, starting on December 1st, 2012, through this May 2013. Though it’s plausible that the government would not have disclosed the name of the program, the*NYT*confirmed*Apple’s participation in a government surveillance network designed to make data collection more efficient for the NSA — whatever that entails, like “a broad sweep for intelligence, like logs of certain search terms.”

    http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/17/apple-nsa/
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    10-08-2015 10:55 PM
  8. gdgtmom's Avatar
    Your privacy is invaded when you use any phone, get in the internet at all.

    Edward Snowden showed those that didn't realize, how much we are all tracked. Those that didn't know after Edward Snowden, should know now. Apple also participates in PRISM. This spying isn't new in the USA. NSA has been around since Pearl Harbor and has been spying on the American public since then, we know this, that isn't a question. This all came out during Watergate and the Church Committee Hearings.

    Other countries have been saying even longer and even more. It doesn't matter who your phone carrier is, who the phone is made by, doesn't matter if the company itself collects the data or they use a third party app.

    You don't have privacy and changing phones will not change that.

    Oh and if your government isn't doing the spying, they are having the USA or UK spy on their citizens for them.

    "If there’s one striking thing about those*PRISM*slides, other than their hideous aesthetics, it’s that Apple’s allocated yellow oval, instead of a date, has the words “(added Oct 2012)” underneath it. That difference is most striking when you consider the fact that Apple competitor Microsoft cooperated with the government a full five years earlier.

    The company, which*denies*ever having heard of PRISM, released its FISA request numbers today, starting on December 1st, 2012, through this May 2013. Though it’s plausible that the government would not have disclosed the name of the program, the*NYT*confirmed*Apple’s participation in a government surveillance network designed to make data collection more efficient for the NSA — whatever that entails, like “a broad sweep for intelligence, like logs of certain search terms.”

    http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/17/apple-nsa/
    Well thanks for all that. Lol


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    10-08-2015 10:56 PM
  9. gdgtmom's Avatar
    Your privacy is invaded when you use any phone, get in the internet at all.

    Edward Snowden showed those that didn't realize, how much we are all tracked. Those that didn't know after Edward Snowden, should know now. Apple also participates in PRISM. This spying isn't new in the USA. NSA has been around since Pearl Harbor and has been spying on the American public since then, we know this, that isn't a question. This all came out during Watergate and the Church Committee Hearings.

    Other countries have been saying even longer and even more. It doesn't matter who your phone carrier is, who the phone is made by, doesn't matter if the company itself collects the data or they use a third party app.

    You don't have privacy and changing phones will not change that.

    Oh and if your government isn't doing the spying, they are having the USA or UK spy on their citizens for them.

    "If there’s one striking thing about those*PRISM*slides, other than their hideous aesthetics, it’s that Apple’s allocated yellow oval, instead of a date, has the words “(added Oct 2012)” underneath it. That difference is most striking when you consider the fact that Apple competitor Microsoft cooperated with the government a full five years earlier.

    The company, which*denies*ever having heard of PRISM, released its FISA request numbers today, starting on December 1st, 2012, through this May 2013. Though it’s plausible that the government would not have disclosed the name of the program, the*NYT*confirmed*Apple’s participation in a government surveillance network designed to make data collection more efficient for the NSA — whatever that entails, like “a broad sweep for intelligence, like logs of certain search terms.”

    http://techcrunch.com/2013/06/17/apple-nsa/
    Who said I was talking directly about a phone and invasion. Hmmmm


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    10-08-2015 10:58 PM
  10. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Who said I was talking directly about a phone and invasion. Hmmmm


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    Because that is what this entire thread is about and you said the iPhone will be used and the Note 5 will be sold and privacy invasion won't be tolerated again.

    So if you aren't talking about a phone and invasion of privacy, then why would you be switching phones?

    "All that" was Apple's admission of lying about not gathering info on users and turning it over to governments.
    10-08-2015 11:03 PM
  11. Almeuit's Avatar
    Im done with all that stuff. Privacy means just that. When your privacy has been invaded before, it won't be tolerated again. Note 5 will be sold. iPhone 6s Plus in use.


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    Have you read through the Apple terms to fully understand what they collect and what they do with it? You may be surprised.

    Everyone collects data now a days .. it is pretty impossible to avoid. I agree the carrier IQ is a bit far and still say it shouldn't be there but to expect that iPhone instantly means you're 100% secure and nothing is being leached is a far stretch.
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    10-09-2015 12:29 AM
  12. ramiss's Avatar
    Carrier IQ which logs and sends AT&T every keystroke you do including messages, mail, purchases etc
    How the phone is doing "stats" I'm ok with. Keystrokes --- NO F'ING way is this acceptable!! - So how do you know it records keystrokes?
    10-09-2015 01:06 AM
  13. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    How the phone is doing "stats" I'm ok with. Keystrokes --- NO F'ING way is this acceptable!! - So how do you know it records keystrokes?
    And all the info on the phone is available and accessible, no matter who your carrier is.

    This privacy horse left the barn long ago and doesn't look like it I'd going back in the barn any time soon.
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    10-09-2015 02:13 AM
  14. jboogie1289's Avatar
    Been checking and haven't see it at all. Used the Lookout Mobile IQ Detector and still not found. Have been checking for 2 days now and nothing. I'm using the Vzw Note 5.
    10-09-2015 09:48 AM
  15. anon(9652351)'s Avatar
    How the phone is doing "stats" I'm ok with. Keystrokes --- NO F'ING way is this acceptable!! - So how do you know it records keystrokes?
    Carrier IQ can also record phone calls.....Read the links I posted in previous threads above.
    10-09-2015 01:57 PM
  16. anon(9652351)'s Avatar
    Been checking and haven't see it at all. Used the Lookout Mobile IQ Detector and still not found. Have been checking for 2 days now and nothing. I'm using the Vzw Note 5.
    I believe Verizon abandoned Carrier IQ for all the reasons I have essentially been advocating here....
    10-09-2015 01:59 PM
  17. anon(9652351)'s Avatar
    And all the info on the phone is available and accessible, no matter who your carrier is.

    This privacy horse left the barn long ago and doesn't look like it I'd going back in the barn any time soon.

    Hi Kelly,

    I have disabled ALL reporting services in iPhone's privacy>diagnostics and usage. So if they are still digging into my iPhone then sooner or later Apple will be standing in front of the Supreme Court answering questions and paying fines...that they can afford LOL
    10-09-2015 02:01 PM
  18. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Hi Kelly,

    I have disabled ALL reporting services in iPhone's privacy>diagnostics and usage. So if they are still digging into my iPhone then sooner or later Apple will be standing in front of the Supreme Court answering questions and paying fines...that they can afford LOL
    The FISA Court allows this and the SCOTUS won't do anything because the government just has to say "national security" and then they don't even have to confirm or deny your phone has info gathered on it.

    The government has won all the cases and The Patriot Act gives the government power to snoop without oversight.. Well the rubber stamping secret court with secret warrants, that only answers to the POTUS is the oversight.

    PRISM and government doesn't depend on reports you can turn off and on.

    So..
    10-09-2015 02:11 PM
  19. anon(9652351)'s Avatar
    The FISA Court allows this and the SCOTUS won't do anything because the government just has to say "national security" and then they don't even have to confirm or deny your phone has info gathered on it.

    The government has won all the cases and The Patriot Act gives the government power to snoop without oversight.. Well the rubber stamping secret court with secret warrants, that only answers to the POTUS is the oversight.

    PRISM and government doesn't depend on reports you can turn off and on.

    So..
    So that is exactly what my attorney is looking into at the moment with Carrier IQ. Is what they are gathering from my device considered "National Security"?? The gray area in privacy and correct me all if I'm wrong is....What exactly is being collected and for what purposes? If Carrier IQ is collecting my phone conversations, keystrokes, etc.. for personal matters between Carrier IQ and AT&T then NO!!!! If Uncle Sam wants to listen in to make the world a safer place and determine who is a terriorist and who is not, then the US Government can have all the access it wants to my phone, I've nothing to hide. It's the public sector and their secretive and insecure handling of my information that scares me.
    10-09-2015 02:18 PM
  20. anon(9652351)'s Avatar
    And having said that....I've just been asked by my counsel to refrain from further posts here. We will be reading however...
    10-09-2015 02:21 PM
  21. notfaded1's Avatar
    Weird...

    Before you posted this, I had found the process running on my device, as described by the OP, as to where it would be in "running processes." I stopped the service and kept checking and didn't see it pop up. 30 minute span of time, till I got this, and checked....and it said,"your device does not have Carrier IQ!?" How could it be there, but not this app says its not?
    Perhaps those little buggers have fingured out a way around the testing app now o.O!
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    10-09-2015 02:24 PM
  22. ramiss's Avatar
    So that is exactly what my attorney is looking into at the moment with Carrier IQ. Is what they are gathering from my device considered "National Security"?? The gray area in privacy and correct me all if I'm wrong is....What exactly is being collected and for what purposes? If Carrier IQ is collecting my phone conversations, keystrokes, etc.. for personal matters between Carrier IQ and AT&T then NO!!!! If Uncle Sam wants to listen in to make the world a safer place and determine who is a terriorist and who is not, then the US Government can have all the access it wants to my phone, I've nothing to hide. It's the public sector and their secretive and insecure handling of my information that scares me.
    I agree 100% with this. And if your council needs additional numbers them count me in.

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    10-09-2015 02:37 PM
  23. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    So that is exactly what my attorney is looking into at the moment with Carrier IQ. Is what they are gathering from my device considered "National Security"?? The gray area in privacy and correct me all if I'm wrong is....What exactly is being collected and for what purposes? If Carrier IQ is collecting my phone conversations, keystrokes, etc.. for personal matters between Carrier IQ and AT&T then NO!!!! If Uncle Sam wants to listen in to make the world a safer place and determine who is a terriorist and who is not, then the US Government can have all the access it wants to my phone, I've nothing to hide. It's the public sector and their secretive and insecure handling of my information that scares me.
    Anything the government decides is national security, is national security.

    Listening in and saying doesn't help. Again, NSA was put together after Pearl Harbor to make sure we never have another attack on the US, anywhere.

    How well has that worked out?

    Now the US is using the public sector to gather their information.

    Honestly, I would prefer the public sector to have the info than the government to have it. The government can do a lot more damage than the public sector.
    10-09-2015 02:49 PM
  24. JayWill's Avatar
    Ahh good ole Carrier IQ. This seems to crop up every couple of years. The big drop was back in 2011, when some techy guy posted a video proving Carrier IQ was recording keystrokes, which caused quite a stir and even prompted Senator Al Franken to write letters to the carriers and initiate his own investigation. I had a Sprint Samsung Galaxy S2 at the time (Epic 4G Touch) and there was a developer who even created a Carrier IQ removal tool. If memory serves me, carriers backed off using the software, and I think Sprint even removed it from their devices. Then it cropped up again two years ago, and my AT&T LG G2 had it installed. I ended up rooting my phone and used a sysem tuner app to keep the CIQ processes from restarting.

    Verizon doesn't use Carrier IQ because they have their own software that essentially does the same thing. If I recall, T Mobile had it on their LG G2 but allowed users the options to disable it. AT&T buried it for awhile but when it was found they were using it again a couple of years ago they basically said sorry, deal with it.
    10-09-2015 03:02 PM
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    10-09-2015 07:05 PM
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