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  1. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    So this means a new wireless stand need to buy
    I hope not. I already have 3-4 of Samsung's wireless charges already.

    Maybe you can charge 2 phones at once on that new charger or is the one end a coaster?
    07-18-2016 08:02 AM
  2. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    One AC Forums user found something pretty interesting. (Thread linked below)
    Source #1: http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...ml#post5270660
    OG Source for above link: https://www.reddit.com/r/SamsungNote...eless_charger/

    Apparently, Samsung has launched a new wireless charging pad + charger combo. On the face of it, nothing special, but the big news is that the cable itself supports USB-C. This could mean a lot of things, but it does mean that the Note7 is pretty likely going to come with a USB-C port.
    07-18-2016 09:47 AM
  3. recDNA's Avatar
    One AC Forums user found something pretty interesting. (Thread linked below)
    Source #1: http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...ml#post5270660
    OG Source for above link: https://www.reddit.com/r/SamsungNote...eless_charger/

    Apparently, Samsung has launched a new wireless charging pad + charger combo. On the face of it, nothing special, but the big news is that the cable itself supports USB-C. This could mean a lot of things, but it does mean that the Note7 is pretty likely going to come with a USB-C port.
    Bad news. I have a million micro usb gizmos and do not wish to change.
    07-18-2016 10:57 AM
  4. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Bad news. I have a million micro usb gizmos and do not wish to change.
    It was bound to happen eventually.

    Wonder if Samsung would supply an adapter in the box.
    07-18-2016 11:00 AM
  5. recDNA's Avatar
    That and it's not a waste since there's presumably no reason anyone would revert to microusb after making the switch to C. The only reason to do so would be a phone downgrade.
    The reason is I already have many other devices that use usb micro so this forces me to bring yet another cord or adapter. I can tell right side up. From upside down and data transfer speed and charging speed is already fine. I have no use for yet another format that may very well not catch on. I mean USB 2 never really replaced USB 1. I don't even know which I'm using most of the time. Most flash drives are crap anyway.
    07-18-2016 11:02 AM
  6. Aquila's Avatar
    I have no use for yet another format that may very well not catch on.
    I'm not following you here. Are you saying the tech industry is going to abandon USB C?
    07-18-2016 11:03 AM
  7. recDNA's Avatar
    I'm not following you here. Are you saying the tech industry is going to abandon USB C?
    No. I'm saying it may not replace usb 2 on most devices or all devices as you seem to imply. Like I have a weird usb 2 charging cable for note 3 that never even went to note 4

    Like my guess is the netbooks or laptops might have a USB C input AND a USB 2 input for years. Whether usb C replaces it remains to be seen. There are too many perfectly good flashdrives, power cords, hard drives etc for people to want to replace them.
    07-18-2016 11:04 AM
  8. recDNA's Avatar
    It was bound to happen eventually.

    Wonder if Samsung would supply an adapter in the box.
    Not necessarily. USB 2 never really replaced USB 1.
    07-18-2016 11:10 AM
  9. Aquila's Avatar
    No. I'm saying it may not replace usb 2 on most devices or all devices as you seem to imply.
    Ah, ok. Well that's one fear you can put to rest, but it's not going to happen overnight. USB C will definitely be replacing USB A and USB B connectors, however full adoption across all aspects of the tech industry will likely take a couple of years because it's highly dependent on PC hardware sales. On mobile, using anything that's not USB C doesn't make sense any longer unless the OEM is dependent on Qualcomm QuickCharge technology, in which case that OEM just kinda sucks because other standards are already much better than QuickCharge (USB C with PD, DashCharge, Adaptive Fast Charging, etc).
    07-18-2016 11:11 AM
  10. Preach2k's Avatar
    We must adopt and move on! USB-C is the future. We must roll with the punches.
    07-18-2016 11:14 AM
  11. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Not necessarily. USB 2 never really replaced USB 1.
    Uh, you realize you are talking about USB standards for data transfer speeds, right?

    What you should be comparing is USB Type-A to Type-C or something like that. Makes more sense that way.
    07-18-2016 11:20 AM
  12. recDNA's Avatar
    Ah, ok. Well that's one fear you can put to rest, but it's not going to happen overnight. USB C will definitely be replacing USB A and USB B connectors, however full adoption across all aspects of the tech industry will likely take a couple of years because it's highly dependent on PC hardware sales. On mobile, using anything that's not USB C doesn't make sense any longer unless the OEM is dependent on Qualcomm QuickCharge technology, in which case that OEM just kinda sucks because other standards are already much better than QuickCharge (USB C with PD, DashCharge, Adaptive Fast Charging, etc).
    You've just made my point. Each of those fast charge methods was meant to replace all others by their developers. Back in the days of videotape and VCR all experts agreed Sony Beta Max was better than VHS yet VHS won out in the end. Just because USB C is better doesn't necessarily mean the non-techie Public are willing to be inconvenienced or pay an extra penny to get it.

    There will even be those who go out of their way to avoid it just to maintain a standard that already is pretty universal. The college I teach at always uses older tech just because everything everywhere in the system is interchangeable. It makes life easier. As newer machines and versions of Windows and Office are introduced it is too expensive to change everything at once so it is a pita.

    Actually they're just updating a bunch of hardware and software now and it IS kind of a pita to have several versions of my PowerPoint presentations to make sure they work properly with every machine and version of windows.
    07-18-2016 11:20 AM
  13. recDNA's Avatar
    Uh, you realize you are talking about USB standards for data transfer speeds, right?

    What you should be comparing is USB Type-A to Type-C or something like that. Makes more sense that way.
    Well on my Note 3 Usb 2 cable connection to phone is actually physically different but I get your point. My point is despite the increased data speed (better) usb 2 capable hardware has never completely replaced usb 1.
    07-18-2016 11:24 AM
  14. Almeuit's Avatar
    Just because USB C is better doesn't necessarily mean the non-techie Public are willing to be inconvenienced or pay an extra penny to get it.
    I disagree here. If major phones swap to it .. the general mass will swap as well.
    07-18-2016 11:24 AM
  15. Almeuit's Avatar
    Bad news. I have a million micro usb gizmos and do not wish to change.
    You may not have to yet -- adapters and such... but one day the standard will change. People didn't want to go to "Lightning Cables" for their iDevices but Apple went that way so eventually they had to.
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    07-18-2016 11:25 AM
  16. recDNA's Avatar
    I disagree here. If major phones swap to it .. the general mass will swap as well.
    If every company switched to betamax VHS would have died first. We're not just talking phones here. This will affect tablets and laptops and even desktops. No I do not think it will be universally adopted rapidly.

    What I would really like to discuss are ALL the Note 7 features and specs because the darn things should be out by now!
    07-18-2016 11:26 AM
  17. Aquila's Avatar
    To clarify, USB Type A, B & C and USB 2.0, 3.0 & 3.1 aren't necessarily related. Each version number, which represent data speed and max current standards, can be paired with each connector type. So you can have USB C with USB 2.0, 3.0 or 3.1 and and you can have USB A and a USB A & B (microUSB) cable that's designed for USB 2.0, 3.0 or 3.1. 3.1 is backwards compatible, so 3.1 should be what we see adopted first by almost everything and USB C is the most logical connector type to use with modern everything because it's better able to handle the true intended standards of USB 3.0 and 3.1.
    07-18-2016 11:26 AM
  18. Almeuit's Avatar
    If every company switched to betamax VHS would have died first. We're not just talking phones here. This will affect tablets and laptops and even desktops. No I do not think it will be universally adopted rapidly.
    We aren't talking VHS though so I don't get how that even matters. If the market swaps to USB-C then people will swap to it.. Because they will upgrade their phones and have to use it. Simple as that. Not sure the argument here o_O
    07-18-2016 11:26 AM
  19. recDNA's Avatar
    We aren't talking VHS though so I don't get how that even matters. If the market swaps to USB-C then people will swap to it.. Because they will upgrade their phones and have to use it. Simple as that. Not sure the argument here o_O
    I agree. If every computer company, accessory company, and phone company changes to usb c immediately it will replace micro usb within 5 years.

    VHS vs Betamax was simply an example of competing tech in which the inferior more common version won out.
    07-18-2016 11:29 AM
  20. Aquila's Avatar
    Just because USB C is better doesn't necessarily mean the non-techie Public are willing to be inconvenienced or pay an extra penny to get it. .
    There's no extra expenditure. The devices they buy, computers, phones, thumb drives, etc. will be coming with the ports standard. And for those that need it, adapters that support USB 3.1 safely from USB A to C are like $8.
    07-18-2016 11:30 AM
  21. Almeuit's Avatar
    I agree. If every computer company, accessory company, and phone company changes to usb c immediately it will replace micro usb within 5 years.
    There may still be some but majority go with the "big names" like Samsung. If Samsung swaps it will help to make a big push over to USB-C. Are you saying it won't?
    07-18-2016 11:31 AM
  22. Aquila's Avatar
    I agree. If every computer company, accessory company, and phone company changes to usb c immediately it will replace micro usb within 5 years..
    Well it started last year and now all flagships seem to be coming with USB C. The Moto G4 is the only recent device other than the S7 that seems to hold on to microUSB, but the Moto Z did switch and now Samsung is switching as well... so are there holdouts? I'd be shocked if any flagship devices in 2017 came with microUSB.
    07-18-2016 11:32 AM
  23. recDNA's Avatar
    There's no extra expenditure. The devices they buy, computers, phones, thumb drives, etc. will be coming with the ports standard. And for those that need it, adapters that support USB 3.1 safely from USB A to C are like $8.
    Look. I have several otg usb mico plug flashdrives. Buying the converters and carrying them defeats the purpose of the tiny drives. I also have several car chargers and chargers in every room of my house. All will have to be replaced or have expensive converters added. It IS inconvenient and expensive. We will have to agree to disagree OK?

    NOW how about Samsung releases the official specs?
    07-18-2016 11:33 AM
  24. recDNA's Avatar
    You may not have to yet -- adapters and such... but one day the standard will change. People didn't want to go to "Lightning Cables" for their iDevices but Apple went that way so eventually they had to.
    Well if the Note 7 soecs are as similar to the s7e specs as SOME reports suggest I will do my part to slow the process by going with the s7e. If the Note blows it away I will have to spend a small fortune on converters and new power cords while retaining the old ones for my other devices. I use several phones and tablets that all use micro plugs so for me it will be a huge pita. I will need a dozen duplicate cords or converters.
    07-18-2016 11:42 AM
  25. Aquila's Avatar
    USB C ports on devices do not require USB C chargers; they require USB A to C cables OR C to C cables. Replacing the car chargers and chargers you have is completely unnecessary as long as you avoid phones that implement USB C improperly, such as the HTC 10. Even then, using the OEM charger and cable, which comes in the box, solves the problem. Replacing cables in 12 rooms/cars would be a maximum investment of under $100. I've purchased 3 USB C devices, which all came with exactly the right hardware and one even had an A to C adapter included in the box to make things easier. I have bought zero C to C cables and zero special chargers. All of my existing chargers still work with the 4-5 cables I purchased so that I don't have to carry any cables or adapters. It's really cheap and simple, especially since the devices get you started by coming with the appropriate hardware. So I've spent like... $30 on Amazon and have my home office, work office, bedroom and car totally updated. That's less than the price of one decent OEM charger.
    07-18-2016 11:48 AM
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