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  1. Inders99's Avatar
    The issue with stuffing a large battery is that it gives software and app developers less incentive to optimize their software as there is too much "free-play" for them, so they'll just end up using the extra power as a safety net and might end up not making all the necessary adjustments to their piece of software to save power, ending up wasting all that extra power.
    Agree, app management/implementation is where Google/Android does a poor job.
    07-04-2016 11:18 AM
  2. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Agree, app management/implementation is where Google/Android does a poor job.
    That's where I feel iOS has the edge. Because it is closed-source and also a tightly-packed ecosystem, there's not many devices that Apple has to optimize for, and also means that the OS can better individually manage idle resources in order to conserve power.

    There's a lot Google has to do with Android in order to conserve power. Doze is a good step, but some apps like Facebook and Snapchat need to have better-managed wakelocks so they don't keep the device awake all the time when the screen is off.
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    07-04-2016 11:27 AM
  3. kenrico's Avatar
    Wow , was just peeking in on the new Nexus speculated specifications ..and it seems that SAMMY is still two steps ahead of everybody.

    S7 S7E and N7 all promise what the others have (Q820+ lotsa RAM 32GB+ better than QHD) and then also supply SD Card slot , dust & water resistance Wireless Charging and now a retina scanner .

    I still have a S5 and will miss some neat things like IR blaster FM radio removable batt USB 3.0 and UNLOCKED bootloader when I upgrade ...but it is SO apparant that it has taken 2 years for every body else to come out with a competing phone to the S5 let alone the S7 ..and ALL the new Nexus HTC and upcoming HTC Nexus are not even trying to implement a card slot or wireless charging ...

    i bought the S5 because of the hype..1st week ..had to have the fingerprint scanner and heart rate monitor .. but it has been updated to Lollipop & Marshmellow , had a FHD screen a great camera .. but it is so disappointing to see that all the other non SAMMY handsets are just qHD newer Qchip and better camera ...the V10 being the breakout with its better audio, wireless charging available and still removable batt and card slot ..see a trend?

    So the NOTE 7 will drop and distinquish itself from..the competition ...again.. and I will have to decide if I want my trade my bootloader freedom in to continue my stellar, unmatched SAMMY experience (epic s3 s5) or go for the pure experiece of a 6P or midrange MXPE , but its pretty apparent that all other flagships are featured like a 6p with a new chip

    Kenny
    07-04-2016 01:23 PM
  4. Aquila's Avatar
    It does seem like lg is being slow on the uptake.
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    07-04-2016 03:15 PM
  5. The SPCS Guy's Avatar
    Better have a 4000 mAh. 3600 is a tiny step up from the current 3220. Bleh
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    07-04-2016 05:09 PM
  6. stmax's Avatar
    It does seem like lg is being slow on the uptake.
    I have noticed several LG owners (myself included) on the Note 7 forums. For me it was the fact that I had to return my G4 to repair the bootloop issue and that the G5 didn't really turn my head.

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    07-04-2016 06:54 PM
  7. Rukbat's Avatar
    Samsung went with design over features since they got bashed review after review for the "plastic feel".
    They got bashed for leakage in a "waterproof phone", the battery, the screen - about everything non-Google.

    They're just doing what the majority was vocal about.
    Which is the problem. They're never going to find a consensus, so design a good phone, then let people "bash" it. "It doesn't have enough case colors?" Here's a painting kit. But if Nextel could make a breakproof, waterproof phone in 2004, Samsung can make one now.

    They're not going to make a "complaintless" phone, about the only "standards" will be engineering standards, so let's make some. So far it's been "pull one from column A and one from column B and it doesn't matter which is which".

    Personally I don't mind a pack. Is removable bad? No I enjoyed it when I had it but with quick charge on a pack and a car charger I never ran into an issue. Maybe if you were out and about a ton I could see but otherwise.. I don't get it.
    The battery lasts a fixed number of discharge cycles. After that you replace it. (So far, there's no answer to that unless you make the battery larger or heavier.) $60 and a 2 week trip to Texas or $15 and a 5 minute trip to my desk? I know which I'd prefer.
    07-05-2016 10:24 AM
  8. Almeuit's Avatar
    Which is the problem. They're never going to find a consensus, so design a good phone, then let people "bash" it. "It doesn't have enough case colors?" Here's a painting kit. But if Nextel could make a breakproof, waterproof phone in 2004, Samsung can make one now.
    Kind of hard to compare a flip phone versus a phone that is basically a giant screen. That is comparing apples to rocks. ^_^. Also companies listen to the majority of their customers .. More wanted other things so they went that route. They will ALWAYS alienate someone by changing a feature or design. You can't please all.

    The battery lasts a fixed number of discharge cycles. After that you replace it. (So far, there's no answer to that unless you make the battery larger or heavier.) $60 and a 2 week trip to Texas or $15 and a 5 minute trip to my desk? I know which I'd prefer.
    And I agreed that I could see the use for some didn't I? Therefore as I said previously .. It isn't for you. There are other choices that can fit your needs. Buying a phone that you don't like the features of wouldn't make much sense.
    07-05-2016 10:32 AM
  9. Aquila's Avatar
    It can't rain all the time.
    07-05-2016 10:41 AM
  10. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Agreed. Samsung addressed issues that their customers wanted, and still managed to design the most highly praised phone of the year in the S7 that is selling really well and has returned them to the top. I don't see that as a problem.

    And yes, they're always going to disappoint someone, but they can't sustain themselves by releasing the same phone every year just to please phone nerds ( and I mean that in the best sense).

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    07-05-2016 11:30 AM
  11. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Agreed. Samsung addressed issues that their customers wanted, and still managed to design the most highly praised phone of the year in the S7 that is selling really well and has returned them to the top. I don't see that as a problem.

    And yes, they're always going to disappoint someone, but they can't sustain themselves by releasing the same phone every year just to please phone nerds ( and I mean that in the best sense).

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    I feel that the S7 is a combo of the S5 and the S6.

    It has the very design of the S6 with its dual-glass design and metal frame while inheriting some of the features of the S5, like water-resistance (improved in this iteration) and expandable storage, while also inheriting features from the S6, like the touch-based finger scanner, built-in wireless charging and Samsung Pay support. It also had its own stuff and improvements, like improved software, a new rear camera that is ludicrous in speed and takes fantastic low-light shots and even nice-looking daylight shots and a much-larger battery (a common pain-point in the S6).

    Overall, I think they nailed the wants of many of their customer base with the S7. It's a sleek looking phone that also has better endurance along with features that many consumers will find beneficial. As for the removable battery and such, I don't think it'll be making a comeback in Samsung phones, sadly, but LG has got your back....if they can recover from the rather dismal performance of the G5.
    07-05-2016 01:27 PM
  12. Jdroids's Avatar
    Better have a 4000 mAh. 3600 is a tiny step up from the current 3220. Bleh
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    If I'm not mistaken it's only 3000mAh in Note 5 currently. That battery size disappointed many when it was released, but it was very comparable to Note 4's endurance in most review's tests due to better software. Even if 3600mAh in Note 7, it's 20% up from Note 5.
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    07-05-2016 06:27 PM
  13. Blues Fan's Avatar
    You'll have to snag something else then. Samsung went with design over features since they got bashed review after review for the "plastic feel". They're just doing what the majority was vocal about... So I don't think it has anything to do with cheap. If anything it was cheaper the previous way lol.

    Personally I don't mind a pack. Is removable bad? No I enjoyed it when I had it but with quick charge on a pack and a car charger I never ran into an issue. Maybe if you were out and about a ton I could see but otherwise.. I don't get it.
    Most people slap a case on their phone though so you don't even see the back of the phone or anything. The glass just makes it easier to break.
    07-05-2016 07:08 PM
  14. FifthElement's Avatar
    From what the rumors are now it is NOT going to be a 4000mah battery but rather the same cell as in the S7 Edge, 3600mah. This, IMHO, is too small as the S7 Edge has great battery life but isn't as big with persistent pen functions, retinal scanner, 2GB more RAM, larger screen etc. My Note 3 use to do 2 days easily even with heavy use. My girls S7 Edge can do a full day with heavy use but not more than that. If it's not 4k mah I'll probably wait and see what LG has to replace the popular v10. I so wanted that phone but the weak processor kept me away. With the Note series we need longevity which is why it NEEDS to be 4000mah! 4k mah or go home Samsung!
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    07-05-2016 11:16 PM
  15. Almeuit's Avatar
    My girls S7 Edge can do a full day with heavy use but not more than that.
    This is what most manufactures go for I am sure. A full days use is all a phone really needs.
    07-05-2016 11:34 PM
  16. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    This is what most manufactures go for I am sure. A full days use is all a phone really needs.
    If the Note can last for a full day on a single charge on my usage pattern, then I'm going for it. Already burned by 2 phones that can't make it to dinner on a single charge.
    07-05-2016 11:44 PM
  17. Almeuit's Avatar
    If the Note can last for a full day on a single charge on my usage pattern, then I'm going for it. Already burned by 2 phones that can't make it to dinner on a single charge.
    With my usage .. depends on how work is. Sometimes it is deaddddd so I have time to watch Crunchyroll a ton and kill the battery pretty quick. :P.
    07-05-2016 11:45 PM
  18. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    With my usage .. depends on how work is. Sometimes it is deaddddd so I have time to watch Crunchyroll a ton and kill the battery pretty quick. :P.
    Ask my LG G4.

    12 hours of total uptime. Usage? YouTube and Facebook plus some phone calls and texting on 50% brightness.
    07-06-2016 10:22 AM
  19. Almeuit's Avatar
    Ask my LG G4.

    12 hours of total uptime. Usage? YouTube and Facebook plus some phone calls and texting on 50% brightness.
    Def. understandable . I crank it 100% when watching CR / other media.
    07-06-2016 10:25 AM
  20. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Def. understandable . I crank it 100% when watching CR / other media.
    The sunlight readability on the G4 is not really impressive on my eyes. I have to crank it up.

    This is where Samsung's displays really shine, without a doubt.
    07-06-2016 11:05 AM
  21. Coraya's Avatar
    The sunlight readability on the G4 is not really impressive on my eyes. I have to crank it up.

    This is where Samsung's displays really shine, without a doubt.
    I love my note 4. There's no doubt about that. However.....in the sunlight, even with 100% brightness, I still need to use my opposite hand to create a shadow so that I can see whatever is on the screen.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-06-2016 08:41 PM
  22. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Some new info came out.

    What seems to be a Verizon-branded Note 7 went through AnTuTu and, well, some parts were expected, but there were some oddities.

    Look like an SD820 might be in tow and Marshmallow 6.0.1 might be the OS it's shipping with, along with 64GB of internal storage.

    Here's the oddities. There's a 13MP rear camera at the back. Until this point, we were expecting a 12MP shooter carried over from the S7. Is this a different sensor? Has Samsung slightly upped camera resolution without sacrificing low-light performance and camera speed? Another thing is 4GB of memory. We were kinda expecting 6GB, so this is a little odd. Not like 4GB is low or anything, since it's still plenty for daily use and then some. Just something different from the flurry of leaks.

    As always, take this with a grain of salt until the device is official.
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    07-07-2016 07:51 AM
  23. blitz118's Avatar
    Some new info came out.

    What seems to be a Verizon-branded Note 7 went through AnTuTu and, well, some parts were expected, but there were some oddities.

    Look like an SD820 might be in tow and Marshmallow 6.0.1 might be the OS it's shipping with, along with 64GB of internal storage.

    Here's the oddities. There's a 13MP rear camera at the back. Until this point, we were expecting a 12MP shooter carried over from the S7. Is this a different sensor? Has Samsung slightly upped camera resolution without sacrificing low-light performance and camera speed? Another thing is 4GB of memory. We were kinda expecting 6GB, so this is a little odd. Not like 4GB is low or anything, since it's still plenty for daily use and then some. Just something different from the flurry of leaks.

    As always, take this with a grain of salt until the device is official.
    A lot of the leaks/rumors are not from Samsung, so I would not take them as fact. I will wait for the official reveal from Samsung for the true specs of the phone.
    07-07-2016 09:30 AM
  24. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    A lot of the leaks/rumors are not from Samsung, so I would not take them as fact. I will wait for the official reveal from Samsung for the true specs of the phone.
    Hence, why I always say to take whatever rumors I share with a grain of salt.

    They're not official until August 2nd, so don't take them too seriously.
    07-07-2016 10:46 AM
  25. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    How do we know that was a Verizon version? Because of the V at the end of the model # ?
    07-07-2016 01:08 PM
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