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  1. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    It's weird, cause several months ago there were rumors of two different tiered Notes. Then those rumors just disappeared

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Which is odd, because it seemed that Samsung would just be going with one Note 7 with the curved display. Seeing an N930 and an N935 more recently just makes it a little more odd, especially since the former on Geekbench actually seems to be more like a GS6 with a modified build.prop.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-08-2016 12:21 AM
  2. xocomaox's Avatar
    There are some features of N that Google will inevitable build on that REQUIRE the device to ship with N.
    Can you name three?
    07-11-2016 12:28 PM
  3. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Can you name three?
    Seamless OTA, file level encryption, and......I'm drawing a blank on the third (I think there was a third....).
    07-11-2016 12:41 PM
  4. Nakrohtap's Avatar
    If Android N releases at the end of July, why couldn't the Note 7 ship with N in August? I read last week that Samsung already had the Android N RTM. So, they can tweak that all they want until the Note is released. Then, if there is a 7.0.1 update, it can be updated on launch day. If it ships with 6.0.1, we probably won't see an update to N this year as the carriers will then be involved.
    07-11-2016 05:51 PM
  5. xocomaox's Avatar
    Seamless OTA, file level encryption, and......I'm drawing a blank on the third (I think there was a third....).
    Seamless OTA probably will require N shipping, but I'm not sure how file-level encryption would?
    07-12-2016 07:18 AM
  6. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Seamless OTA probably will require N shipping, but I'm not sure how file-level encryption would?
    They both do.

    Seamless OTA has partition requirements and changing encryption methods is a destructive process.
    07-12-2016 10:04 AM
  7. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    Ehh, I'm willing to bet that the device running through the benchmark wasn't the actual Note 7, but could likely be an early prototype of it.

    2 reasons.

    1) It has an Exynos 7420. That is the same chip that powered the Galaxy Note 5 last year, and judging from the performance scores, it is either heavily downclocked or have some modifications made to it that limits performance. That is very unlikely to make it to a consumer model as each Note iteration has had hardware upgrades over its predecessor. Having a similar-but-gimped processor in the Note 7 won't go well with a lot of people as it will be seen as a downgrade over its predecessor, and given that Samsung has gained a lot of momentum with the success of the Galaxy S7 line, it would be an insanely and unbelievably foolish move to launch the other highly-anticipated device that ends up being worse not only compared to the device it is based on, but also its predecessor.

    2) Android Nougat's name was announced, but the OS itself hasn't rolled out of beta yet. Usually, a new version of Android rolls out when the new Nexus devices are unveiled. That has been the case in the past, like KitKat with the Nexus 5, Lollipop with the Nexus 6 and Marshmallow with the Nexus 5X and 6P. Releasing a mainstream device running an unfinished build of Android that is not even fully-finalized by Google is a very risky move, and given that Samsung would also need time to optimize their skin for Nougat, it would be unlikely that the Note 7 would come out to consumers as the first phone running Android Nougat. It would be breaking tradition if it did, but I also think it's a risk.

    My initial theory is that the "SM-N930F" used in the benchmark is an early prototype based on the Samsung Galaxy S6 with a slightly gimped Exynos 7420 designed to test builds of Android Nougat in order to test and optimize the software with TouchWiz before it is ready for release.

    And here's another theory, one that's actually quite plausible. That is not a Note 7. That's a modified Galaxy S6 with a modified build.prop designed to mimic the Note 7 and having an "Android 7.0" software version.
    Really great theory. You seem very well read on the subject. I hope you're spot on with this.
    07-12-2016 02:53 PM
  8. benjamminh's Avatar
    The first new phones with the new Android OS for that year are always Nexus it seems.
    07-13-2016 07:48 AM
  9. svtalex's Avatar
    The first new phones with the new Android OS for that year are always Nexus it seems.
    Nexus devices always get the latest OSS 1st

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-13-2016 09:23 AM
  10. freedomx20a's Avatar
    No way

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    07-13-2016 10:31 AM
  11. ahaxton's Avatar
    Nexus devices always get the latest OSS 1st

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Well that's not always true. I remember one release, I think Lollipop, where the Moto G got it before the Nexus phones.
    07-13-2016 10:51 AM
  12. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    Well that's not always true. I remember one release, I think Lollipop, where the Moto G got it before the Nexus phones.
    It didn't get it before the Nexus phone that was released with that OS.

    I think that's what people mean when they say that. They mean a new phone isn't going to ship with an OS that has not already shipped on a new Nexus (for major releases).
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    07-13-2016 04:24 PM
  13. Almeuit's Avatar
    It didn't get it before the Nexus phone that was released with that OS.

    I think that's what people mean when they say that. They mean a new phone isn't going to ship with an OS that has not already shipped on a new Nexus (for major releases).
    This.
    07-13-2016 04:50 PM
  14. Aquila's Avatar
    It didn't get it before the Nexus phone that was released with that OS.

    I think that's what people mean when they say that. They mean a new phone isn't going to ship with an OS that has not already shipped on a new Nexus (for major releases).
    It also didn't get the update before nexus phones, it merely got OTA's sent out before all nexus devices got the OTA. The updates were available for flashing before that. Some discount that as "counting" but IMO it was still available to all nexus devices first.
    07-13-2016 04:54 PM
  15. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    It also didn't get the update before nexus phones, it merely got OTA's sent out before all nexus devices got the OTA. The updates were available for flashing before that. Some discount that as "counting" but IMO it was still available to all nexus devices first.
    I don't compare OTA to flashing images.
    07-13-2016 04:59 PM
  16. Aquila's Avatar
    I don't compare OTA to flashing images.
    That's fine on a major OS update leaping base API versions I like to flash anyways and do a clean install, so it's all good to me either way. But yeah, definitely not as easy for all users.
    07-13-2016 05:09 PM
  17. Coraya's Avatar
    marshmallow just began rolling out to most devices. No one is ever happy with the OS they have. After updating to Marshmallow I noticed nearly zero difference other than my icons. No performance changes. If anything, it's worse.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-14-2016 09:07 AM
  18. Phillip Pugh's Avatar
    This guy's gets it I'm way way more interested in the new touch wiz it's looks hella nice the N version doesn't even have all the features I now have on my note5 and gs7 edge

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-14-2016 09:24 AM
  19. kirksucks's Avatar
    If so carriers better start writing the bloatware into it right now.
    07-14-2016 10:27 AM
  20. xocomaox's Avatar
    Looks like it does not ship with N.
    08-03-2016 09:35 AM
  21. stackberry369's Avatar
    Here is food for thought: is the Note 7 going to be released before the official version of Nougat?
    The V20 will be running Nougat from day one

    Posted via the Android Central App
    08-03-2016 09:39 AM
  22. Almeuit's Avatar
    The V20 will be running Nougat from day one

    Posted via the Android Central App
    And it releases later .
    xocomaox likes this.
    08-03-2016 10:02 AM
  23. beh's Avatar
    Samsung's official specs say the US carrier models at least will have MM out of the box.
    Samsung Galaxy Note7 | Samsung US
    08-03-2016 10:47 AM
  24. xocomaox's Avatar
    The V20 will be running Nougat from day one
    To be as relevant as you are being, The Galaxy S8 will ship with N from day one.
    08-04-2016 07:01 AM
  25. Aquila's Avatar
    Galaxy Note 7 ships with Marshmallow, not Nougat — but maybe that's not a huge deal http://www.androidcentral.com/galaxy...-not-huge-deal
    08-04-2016 08:18 AM
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