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  1. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    If your a phone jumper, I totally get not wanting to shell out that kind of cash for a phone. But the trend is reverting back to people keeping their devices for 2, 3 even 4 years.

    For that kind of money, I'm keeping the thing until it dies.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-17-2016 10:53 PM
  2. Blues Fan's Avatar
    I'm guessing it's gonna be more than 800. It's coming with 64gb and a bigger screen, plus the spen. It's gonna have to cost more than the S7 edge.
    Which is dumb. Why not make a cheaper 32gb version? its got expandable memory so I have no reason to want to pay more for 64gb when 32gb is plenty and if I need to I can pop a SD card into it.

    The Note is already a niche phone in a way. Upping the price that much will really hurt the sales on this. People simply wanting larger screen might go for the V20 or an Edge if they don't really need the Spen. If it's over 800 I might go after an Edge then for the bigger screen.
    07-18-2016 02:05 AM
  3. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Which is dumb. Why not make a cheaper 32gb version? its got expandable memory so I have no reason to want to pay more for 64gb when 32gb is plenty and if I need to I can pop a SD card into it.

    The Note is already a niche phone in a way. Upping the price that much will really hurt the sales on this. People simply wanting larger screen might go for the V20 or an Edge if they don't really need the Spen. If it's over 800 I might go after an Edge then for the bigger screen.
    Ehh, some people just don't like SD cards.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-18-2016 08:19 AM
  4. Almeuit's Avatar
    Ehh, some people just don't like SD cards.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    I am not the biggest fan of them but for things like storing movies / tv shows on them.. That is okay by me. I wouldn't ever store photos or anything I would hate to lose on them. I do backup to the cloud but usually have that set to WiFi only so it doesn't drain my battery trying to back things up while I am out and about .
    07-18-2016 09:35 AM
  5. Aquila's Avatar
    LOL, we obviously have very different definitions of "improvements", "fringe", and "regressing". Ditto on our views on user-replaceable batteries and OS updates (from various other thread discussions). Then again you're well ensconced with Nexus type devices while I'm the opposite (actually dislike pretty much everything about them from hardware to software). Nothing wrong with any of that, but we're so far apart on our views we'll just have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.
    I'm cool with that.
    07-18-2016 12:00 PM
  6. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    Then this entire Note 7 area should be moved back to the Rumored Devices Lounge (Rumored Devices Lounge - Android Forums at AndroidCentral.com)!
    In a sense, it should since folks are arguing over speculation. LoL
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    07-19-2016 08:11 PM
  7. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    In fairness though, some of the speculation often turns out to be true. Remember :

    1) The S6 removal of the SD card rumor

    2) The stunning 2600 mah rumor for the S6.

    3) The Module rumor for the G5.

    Clearly there are a few folks out there that have gotten their hands on the Note 7. Some is speculation and some will end up being true.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-19-2016 10:30 PM
  8. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    In fairness though, some of the speculation often turns out to be true. Remember :

    1) The S6 removal of the SD card rumor

    2) The stunning 2600 mah rumor for the S6.

    3) The Module rumor for the G5.

    Clearly there are a few folks out there that have gotten their hands on the Note 7. Some is speculation and some will end up being true.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    I totally agree. But my position is why argue over nothing but negative points? It seems counterproductive. That, and it seems like more folks are trying to convince themselves NOT to buy it than to get it.

    Personally, it's an upgrade from the Note 5 no matter how you cut it, so I win lol. So Unless there's a true heavy contender against the N7, (which there really isn't) then they've got my money lol.
    07-20-2016 04:43 AM
  9. Aquila's Avatar
    I totally agree. But my position is why argue over nothing but negative points? It seems counterproductive. That, and it seems like more folks are trying to convince themselves NOT to buy it than to get it.

    Personally, it's an upgrade from the Note 5 no matter how you cut it, so I win lol. So Unless there's a true heavy contender against the N7, (which there really isn't) then they've got my money lol.
    Nexus Marlin IMO comes close. Current rumors have almost everything (spec-wise) the same through .2" screen size difference. Will have to see once both actually exist.
    07-20-2016 06:41 AM
  10. debdroid1a's Avatar
    I totally agree. But my position is why argue over nothing but negative points? It seems counterproductive. That, and it seems like more folks are trying to convince themselves NOT to buy it than to get it.

    Personally, it's an upgrade from the Note 5 no matter how you cut it, so I win lol. So Unless there's a true heavy contender against the N7, (which there really isn't) then they've got my money lol.
    How is it an upgrade from the note 5? Give me the positives.

    Posted via the *Note 5*
    07-20-2016 08:26 AM
  11. Aquila's Avatar
    How is it an upgrade from the note 5? Give me the positives.

    Posted via the *Note 5*
    Better screen, better FPS, better camera, better processor, larger battery, adds microSD card slot, better software, it's newer so it'll be supported longer, probably faster storage, larger internal storage, etc, etc.
    07-20-2016 08:53 AM
  12. debdroid1a's Avatar
    Better screen, better FPS, better camera, better processor, larger battery, adds microSD card slot, better software, it's newer so it'll be supported longer, probably faster storage, larger internal storage, etc, etc.
    This may come across negative, but none of those seen better IMHO. The Note 5 seems to do well enough in all those areas. 64gb on my phone is good. I can charge anywhere I'm at or use my portable charger.

    Plus, I don't get the "newer so it'll be supported longer" to those who don't keep phones long unless you're keeping phones 2 plus years. My dad has an S2 and it's still working good enough for him on Android 2.something. I could go another year on my Note 5, supported or not.

    I want to be convinced (that's why I asked), but the edge screen and new port to buy more dangles just puts me off and nothing seems revolutionary.

    Posted via the *Note 5*
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    07-20-2016 11:31 AM
  13. Aquila's Avatar
    This may come across negative, but none of those seen better IMHO. The Note 5 seems to do well enough in all those areas. 64gb on my phone is good. I can charge anywhere I'm at or use my portable charger.

    Plus, I don't get the "newer so it'll be supported longer" to those who don't keep phones long unless you're keeping phones 2 plus years. My dad has an S2 and it's still working good enough for him on Android 2.something. I could go another year on my Note 5, supported or not.

    I want to be convinced (that's why I asked), but the edge screen and new port to buy more dangles just puts me off and nothing seems revolutionary.

    Posted via the *Note 5*
    It might not be a huge upgrade, but you asked what was making it an upgrade. Those are some of the things they improved upon. Saying the Note 5 is good enough is totally plausible, it was a good phone - but the Note 7 is obviously better. Is it better enough to warrant the cost of trading up? That's up to each buyer. You're absolutely right that there is nothing revolutionary, this is just a new and improved version of the exact same thing. Sort of a Note 5 meets S7 Edge type of device.
    07-20-2016 11:50 AM
  14. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    It's not suppose to be an upgrade from a Note 5 unless someone is just infatuated with upgrading. The Note 5 is still just a year old.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-20-2016 11:51 AM
  15. jlczl's Avatar
    This may come across negative, but none of those seen better IMHO. The Note 5 seems to do well enough in all those areas.
    "We'll enough" does not equal to just as good. The Note 7 will without a doubt be better (especially since the 5 was a downgrade from the 4 for most since it lacked SD card support and had a smaller battery).

    I owned the 5 and it is a VERY capable device but the 7 is most definitely better for the many reasons already stated in other posts.
    07-20-2016 12:26 PM
  16. Almeuit's Avatar
    This may come across negative, but none of those seen better IMHO. The Note 5 seems to do well enough in all those areas. 64gb on my phone is good. I can charge anywhere I'm at or use my portable charger.

    Plus, I don't get the "newer so it'll be supported longer" to those who don't keep phones long unless you're keeping phones 2 plus years. My dad has an S2 and it's still working good enough for him on Android 2.something. I could go another year on my Note 5, supported or not.

    I want to be convinced (that's why I asked), but the edge screen and new port to buy more dangles just puts me off and nothing seems revolutionary.

    Posted via the *Note 5*
    While I get for your needs it may not seem like much and as you said the S2 still works for your Dad but this post goes to show .. It is 100% up to you. You asked what was an upgrade so we told you.. It is up to you decide if it is worth you shelling out the cash you work for. Your Dad? Probably loves his S2. If I use a phone that is a year old I feel sad. Are either of us wrong? No, we both have different needs / wants .
    07-20-2016 01:50 PM
  17. Almeuit's Avatar
    Samsung lowered the bar with the Note 5 (compared to typical features available on prior Note devices), so there isn't much they need to do to make subsequent Notes more appealing. Consider yourselves "punked", well except for many of us diehard Note aficionados who saw past it and continue to hang on to our Note 4's!!!
    But are you punked if you didn't care about the features? .
    07-20-2016 03:10 PM
  18. Aquila's Avatar
    But are you punked if you didn't care about the features? .
    Absolutely not, unless there is an objective reason one ought to care about those features (which there in this case isn't).

    As Synycalwon indicated, we value different things in device and for me, the features that went away from the 4 to the 5 were both things I was happy to see go, the disappointments were the smaller battery and the glass body. When I found out that battery life was much better on the 5 than on the 4, that means the 5 knocked it out of the park IMO compared to the 4. For what I value in phones, the Note 5 was better at literally everything except for possibly durability than the 4. For me, that means all the improvements on the 7 over the 5 make it ever much more so better than the 4. So for me 7 > 5 > 4.

    For other users who really need to have a removable battery or really don't want a glass phone (because let's be honest, fragility is a thing that really exists - even my spell checker agrees), the Note 5 kinda sucks and the Note 7 does nothing to rectify the things absent from the 5 except Micro SD - which by doubling the storage from 32 to 64, the MicroSD card is a bit of a moot point for most users. For those users 7 > 5, but 4 > 7 so 4 > 7 > 5.
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    07-20-2016 03:15 PM
  19. Climb14er's Avatar
    The Note 7 will be an excellent phone for those with the Note 4 and earlier. My Note 5 is only eight months old and is functioning very well. One caveat... be prepared to pay Cloe to ONE THOUSAND BUCKS when you easily factor in taxes and maybe more when you add in a case and an extra charger and cable. These phones are getting very expensive.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    07-20-2016 03:29 PM
  20. Almeuit's Avatar
    The Note 7 will be an excellent phone for those with the Note 4 and earlier. My Note 5 is only eight months old and is functioning very well. One caveat... be prepared to pay Cloe to ONE THOUSAND BUCKS when you easily factor in taxes and maybe more when you add in a case and an extra charger and cable. These phones are getting very expensive.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    The S7 Edge was around $800 IIRC. If T-Mobile has a BOGO deal I will be able to snag one for around $400ish if the price is near the Edge .
    07-20-2016 03:37 PM
  21. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    The Note 7 will be an excellent phone for those with the Note 4 and earlier. My Note 5 is only eight months old and is functioning very well. One caveat... be prepared to pay Cloe to ONE THOUSAND BUCKS when you easily factor in taxes and maybe more when you add in a case and an extra charger and cable. These phones are getting very expensive.

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Unless you're getting subsidized pricing.
    07-21-2016 12:57 PM
  22. Almeuit's Avatar
    Unless you're getting subsidized pricing.
    Or a BOGO deal . I did that with the S7 Edge. Friend took the free one and paid me half for the first phone .. so I essentially only paid half price .
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    07-21-2016 01:11 PM
  23. JeromeM's Avatar
    I'm hoping for a good price on contract, I'm not sure if it's different here in Canada but usually by signing the 2 year contract they subsidize about $25 a month so say $600 cdn making the device likely still in the $400 ish CDN range. Since my work pays for my monthly bill (not my device though) no sense in me paying full price and might still be cheaper than the ZTE Axon 7 that I have on pre order (Grey model coming out ~Aug 15th), if that's the case I'll be cancelling the Axon 7 to go with Note 7 even if it's released a bit later.
    07-21-2016 02:21 PM
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