08-01-2016 06:25 AM
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  1. Aquila's Avatar
    I feel like everybody agreeing is just drinking the Note kool-aid lol. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I've always thought the Note was supposed to be the top of the line. If it comes with less battery or even the same as the S7 edge, it'll be a disappointment TO ME. It's got a bigger screen and will likely have more ram, and to have the same or less battery capacity just seems wrong to me. Of course, like I said this is just my opinion. I really wanted to try having an spen with me all the time, because my Note 8.0 is pretty old now but it looks like I'll have to pass.
    I think it's important to value battery life, not battery size. As indicated earlier, we're having a big argument over less than a quarter of an hour of usage - if this thing comes out and can't do 4 hours SOT, I'll be the first one to say that Samsung dropped the ball. But the math will indicate that battery size isn't what caused it to suck - it'd be the fact that they released a crappy phone. Battery life is important, the number inside the device doesn't matter much. Just like, not having lag and memory leaks and crappy performance is important, not the specific processor used, etc.
    07-23-2016 09:50 PM
  2. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Aquila raised an important point.

    Real-world performance matters. Having a large battery is nice (really, don't we all want a huge battery?), but how would you know that your phone is properly conserving all that juice in order to have great endurance?

    You have to use it to find out. We can't just assume how the battery would be just from its capacity. There's a number of variables that account for battery life. Capacity is just one of them (albeit one significant one).
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    07-23-2016 10:25 PM
  3. Jaycemiskel's Avatar
    I agree with you, real world performance does matter, but however optimized the device is, the life would have been better with a bigger battery. I know that's a limited way to look at it. But let's say this is the best optimized device Samsung puts out, just imagine how good the life would have been with a 4k mah battery. I really like my S7 edge so for me to upgrade, I wanted it to be an actual upgrade, not a lateral move.
    07-23-2016 11:09 PM
  4. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    I agree with you, real world performance does matter, but however optimized the device is, the life would have been better with a bigger battery. I know that's a limited way to look at it. But let's say this is the best optimized device Samsung puts out, just imagine how good the life would have been with a 4k mah battery. I really like my S7 edge so for me to upgrade, I wanted it to be an actual upgrade, not a lateral move.
    I think everyone here would have loved to see a 4000mAh battery as it would be a supreme battery champ when combined with excellent optimization. But, given that the S Pen takes up quite a bit of internal space, I presume a 4000mAh battery may not be feasible unless they significantly increase its dimensions.

    Plus, a 3500mAh battery is still considered to be a pretty large battery and combined with good optimization, would probably mean that the Note7 can last a day fairly easily on mixed usage. Of course, a 4000mAh battery with that sort of optimization would be the holy grail. Maybe we'll see that in the future.

    Overall, I don't think Samsung is aiming for consumers to replace their S7 edge with the Note. Seems like they are targeting Note5 and possibly earlier Note users who were bummed with the smaller battery capacity and lack of expandable storage on the 5 and really don't use the removable battery.

    We shall see on August 2nd. While doing so, I'm also hoping that LG doesn't make the same mistake they did to the G5 with the V20.
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    07-23-2016 11:24 PM
  5. Almeuit's Avatar
    I agree with you, real world performance does matter, but however optimized the device is, the life would have been better with a bigger battery. I know that's a limited way to look at it. But let's say this is the best optimized device Samsung puts out, just imagine how good the life would have been with a 4k mah battery. I really like my S7 edge so for me to upgrade, I wanted it to be an actual upgrade, not a lateral move.
    It is true a bigger battery would help but we are talking 3500 vs 3600 here -- you won't notice a difference. I don't think their target is people on the S7 Edge.
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    07-24-2016 01:15 AM
  6. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    I feel like everybody agreeing is just drinking the Note kool-aid lol. Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I've always thought the Note was supposed to be the top of the line. If it comes with less battery or even the same as the S7 edge, it'll be a disappointment TO ME. It's got a bigger screen and will likely have more ram, and to have the same or less battery capacity just seems wrong to me. Of course, like I said this is just my opinion. I really wanted to try having an spen with me all the time, because my Note 8.0 is pretty old now but it looks like I'll have to pass.
    So clearly you're drinking the "I just want to disagree" Kool-aid. LoL I prefer apple juice. Of us that are agreeing, I believe that we know we're going to get a great phone, nothing more.

    I really maintain my position here with the N7: If you don't want it, don't buy it. It probably wasn't meant for you anyway. Me myself, however, want this phone and will get it. Why? 1) Because I want to. 2) Because it's (even with unconfirmed specs) a true upgrade from my Note 5.
    msndrstood likes this.
    07-24-2016 02:02 AM
  7. Solitary Wolf's Avatar
    Well...at this point I probably shouldn't be surprised. The edged screen, non-removable battery, I was already looking away fromt it. Seriously how can an s7 active have 4000mAh battery and this giant note can't? I understand the space of the s-pen slot can be an issue but i thought battery technology has increased since then, and 500mAh decrease from what it originally was? I can only hope that Android 7 will not be as battery-consuming as Lolipop was.
    07-24-2016 02:26 AM
  8. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Well...at this point I probably shouldn't be surprised. The edged screen, non-removable battery, I was already looking away fromt it. Seriously how can an s7 active have 4000mAh battery and this giant note can't? I understand the space of the s-pen slot can be an issue but i thought battery technology has increased since then, and 500mAh decrease from what it originally was? I can only hope that Android 7 will not be as battery-consuming as Lolipop was.
    Well, for starters, the Active is pretty bulky, when compared to a standard flat Galaxy S7.

    I don't think Samsung wanted to make the Note bulky.

    And by bulky, I mean REALLY bulky.
    07-24-2016 02:35 AM
  9. Preach2k's Avatar
    The Note 7 is thinner then the Note 5. I really did not mind the thickness of the Note 5. We do not know why they made the battery smaller if the Rumor is true. They could of had issues with the size of the battery and fitting in the S -pen. We do not know. We just have to wait and see. August 2nd!
    07-24-2016 03:46 AM
  10. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    The Note 7 is thinner then the Note 5. I really did not mind the thickness of the Note 5. We do not know why they made the battery smaller if the Rumor is true. They could of had issues with the size of the battery and fitting in the S -pen. We do not know. We just have to wait and see. August 2nd!
    I thought it was rumored to be 7.9mm thin? That's 0.2mm thicker than the Note5.
    07-24-2016 04:46 AM
  11. Preach2k's Avatar
    I thought it was rumored to be 7.9mm thin? That's 0.2mm thicker than the Note5.
    I seen a video where someone said that it was thinner then the Note 5. I think it was from Pocket Now.
    07-24-2016 04:54 AM
  12. thegame161's Avatar
    Well...at this point I probably shouldn't be surprised. The edged screen, non-removable battery, I was already looking away fromt it. Seriously how can an s7 active have 4000mAh battery and this giant note can't? I understand the space of the s-pen slot can be an issue but i thought battery technology has increased since then, and 500mAh decrease from what it originally was? I can only hope that Android 7 will not be as battery-consuming as Lolipop was.
    space

    you have to factor in space for the S pen which takes up a fair bit of space. The S7 edge doesn't have space that the note will need
    07-24-2016 04:57 AM
  13. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    I seen a video where someone said that it was thinner then the Note 5. I think it was from Pocket Now.
    That was just Jaime making an assumption based on how it looked.

    I mentioned in the comments of the video that it's probably an illusion caused by the edged display.
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    07-24-2016 05:44 AM
  14. Carrtman's Avatar
    Well...at this point I probably shouldn't be surprised. The edged screen, non-removable battery, I was already looking away fromt it. Seriously how can an s7 active have 4000mAh battery and this giant note can't? I understand the space of the s-pen slot can be an issue but i thought battery technology has increased since then, and 500mAh decrease from what it originally was? I can only hope that Android 7 will not be as battery-consuming as Lolipop was.
    Same Samsung needs to understand that the Note should be the top of the line function over form device. If people want a fancy looking phone that's what the S and especially edge line is for.

    The note should be a no BS, gimmicks productivity device as far as mobile phones can be used for productivity .

    With a bigger phone there are more pixels to push, so a bigger battery will be needed...can't believe people are still falling for marketing crap like software optimization and even if that existed a bigger removable battery would still be better than every alternative.

    Not exactly exited but it will be interesting to see if Samsung can take back the Note line to it's former glory instead of just making it a bigger S line device with an S Pen.
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    07-24-2016 04:16 PM
  15. Almeuit's Avatar
    Same Samsung needs to understand that the Note should be the top of the line function over form device. If people want a fancy looking phone that's what the S and especially edge line is for.

    The note should be a no BS, gimmicks productivity device as far as mobile phones can be used for productivity .

    With a bigger phone there are more pixels to push, so a bigger battery will be needed...can't believe people are still falling for marketing crap like software optimization and even if that existed a bigger removable battery would still be better than every alternative.

    Not exactly exited but it will be interesting to see if Samsung can take back the Note line to it's former glory instead of just making it a bigger S line device with an S Pen.
    It would be nice but sadly it isn't the case. Maybe the Note isn't for you?

    I'll reserve my judgement on battery claims for real world results. So many times people judge on specs and the opposite happens.
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    07-24-2016 04:54 PM
  16. Preach2k's Avatar
    We must remember these are all rumors until we get the Official announcement on August 2nd.
    07-24-2016 04:57 PM
  17. Carrtman's Avatar
    It would be nice but sadly it isn't the case. Maybe the Note isn't for you?

    I'll reserve my judgement on battery claims for real world results. So many times people judge on specs and the opposite happens.
    Well I have the Note 4 so the line is for sure for me.
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    07-24-2016 05:35 PM
  18. Almeuit's Avatar
    Well I have the Note 4 so the line is for sure for me.
    Well yeah maybe the older models. The newer ones definitely doesn't sound like a good fit for your wants and needs.
    07-24-2016 05:43 PM
  19. omgitselaine's Avatar
    We must remember these are all rumors until we get the Official announcement on August 2nd.
    Not for nothing but August 2nd is ........ NEXT week already !!!!!

    I guess as we get closer to this date we all become even more impatient ??

    If we could place preorders in that day or even the next day then that'll be my gameplan
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    07-24-2016 06:23 PM
  20. Aquila's Avatar
    Not for nothing but August 2nd is ........ NEXT week already !!!!!

    I guess as we get closer to this date we all become even more impatient ??

    If we could place preorders in that day or even the next day then that'll be my gameplan
    Wait, these nerds are going to get MORE impatient?!
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    07-24-2016 06:26 PM
  21. omgitselaine's Avatar
    Wait, these nerds are going to get MORE impatient?!
    Guilty as charge !!!!!
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    07-24-2016 06:57 PM
  22. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Uh, a larger screen with the same resolution doesn't really mean it has to drive more pixels. In fact, the number of pixels on the larger display is the same as the one on the smaller display with the same resolution. That's why the PPI number is higher on smaller displays with the same resolution.

    Though it is spread over a wider area, so more power may be needed to light up the wider area, but probably not as much, especially since we're talking about AMOLED here.
    07-24-2016 07:31 PM
  23. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Same Samsung needs to understand that the Note should be the top of the line function over form device. If people want a fancy looking phone that's what the S and especially edge line is for.

    The note should be a no BS, gimmicks productivity device as far as mobile phones can be used for productivity .

    With a bigger phone there are more pixels to push, so a bigger battery will be needed...can't believe people are still falling for marketing crap like software optimization and even if that existed a bigger removable battery would still be better than every alternative.

    Not exactly exited but it will be interesting to see if Samsung can take back the Note line to it's former glory instead of just making it a bigger S line device with an S Pen.
    First and foremost, the Note needs to be a phone that makes the company money.

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    07-24-2016 08:27 PM
  24. turb0wned's Avatar
    Same Samsung needs to understand that the Note should be the top of the line function over form device. If people want a fancy looking phone that's what the S and especially edge line is for.

    The note should be a no BS, gimmicks productivity device as far as mobile phones can be used for productivity .

    With a bigger phone there are more pixels to push, so a bigger battery will be needed...can't believe people are still falling for marketing crap like software optimization and even if that existed a bigger removable battery would still be better than every alternative.

    Not exactly exited but it will be interesting to see if Samsung can take back the Note line to it's former glory instead of just making it a bigger S line device with an S Pen.
    Seems like people continue to bring up the same defense for Android devices/software every year. Supposedly it's always going to be more optimized for battery life, yet always disappoints. Only phones that I can say have extremely good battery life is the iPhone 6s plus and now the S7E. Im hoping the Note 7 has a bigger battery than the rumored 3500.
    07-24-2016 08:54 PM
  25. Aquila's Avatar
    How big is the battery in the iPhone 6s Plus?
    07-24-2016 09:25 PM
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