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  1. jeepentj's Avatar
    I upgrade phones twice a year - going from the Galaxy S"x" to the Note "x" so right now I have the S7 Edge. If the Note 7 turns out simply be a larger version of the 7 Edge with the addition of an S Pen, I'm going to pass on the upgrade.

    For me it boils down to this: if I were upgrading from the Note 5, the specs appear to make the Note 7 a pretty exciting upgrade. From the S7 Edge though, not so much.
    07-29-2016 03:06 PM
  2. Shepx13's Avatar
    It amazes me that people are turning this situation into a negative.

    Samsung saw the desire from people who wanted a phone bigger than the standard Galaxy Galaxy S line, but didn't need the Notes features, so they created the S7 Edge this year to fit that demographic. And people have raved about how great the phone is, overall.

    Now, all of a sudden, people are up in arms all over the Internet because the Note may not have a big spec increase over the S7 Edge, and that it's just a S7E with s-pen.

    Yes, that's pretty much what it is. And that's awesome! If the S7 Edge was never released, people would be losing their minds over how amazing the Note 7 is, with its huge battery increase over the Note 5, USB C, etc.
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    07-29-2016 03:10 PM
  3. soldier45's Avatar
    Well I upgrade every year with AT&T next so not as excited for the 7 as I would have been with a 6 inch foldable screen or 4k but thats next year I guess. But I'll take the IP68, Type C connector, and slightly faster with Micro Sd card back till then. Silver please...

    07-29-2016 03:57 PM
  4. debdroid1a's Avatar
    It amazes me that people are turning this situation into a negative.

    Samsung saw the desire from people who wanted a phone bigger than the standard Galaxy Galaxy S line, but didn't need the Notes features, so they created the S7 Edge this year to fit that demographic. And people have raved about how great the phone is, overall.

    Now, all of a sudden, people are up in arms all over the Internet because the Note may not have a big spec increase over the S7 Edge, and that it's just a S7E with s-pen.

    Yes, that's pretty much what it is. And that's awesome! If the S7 Edge was never released, people would be losing their minds over how amazing the Note 7 is, with its huge battery increase over the Note 5, USB C, etc.
    I thought this discussion was more positive then others. I'm still not sold, but as it's getting closer I'm leaning more towards getting one.

    I don't know if the s7 edge is a note without a spen, but if so it's an option for those who don't use spen much.

    Posted via the *Note 5*
    07-29-2016 04:03 PM
  5. Aquila's Avatar
    Doesn't bug me, no. But I didn't buy the S7 Edge. I think most S7 Edge owners would have a hard time justifying a switch unless they really want the pen. But for Note 4 and Note 5 owners, this is a pretty great update.
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    07-29-2016 04:17 PM
  6. Shepx13's Avatar
    I thought this discussion was more positive then others.
    The reception the last few days has absolutely been more positive here than elsewhere. Go look at reddit, read the comments from multiple Android websites and even some articles from their writers to see that people really are upset over what looks like the final specs. The Galaxy S7 Edge has made people have unrealistic expectations for what the Note would bring to the table. Also, people are ignoring the fact that the Note was never marketed as phone for everyone, but towards people who see value in the s pen.
    07-29-2016 04:23 PM
  7. Aquila's Avatar
    I mean, the Note 5 was an S6 with a bigger screen and an S-Pen, slightly larger battery and 4GB RAM instead of 3GB. There's only 6 months difference between these devices, there's not going to be a lot of tech jumps.

    The weird thing this year was that there was a giant S7, not that the Note 7 isn't that different from the S line. And even that isn't that weird, because last year's S7 Edge was the S6 Edge+, which was a Note 5 without a Pen and with Edge. So there is a direct precedent for two, basically the same phones with slightly different features.

    The Note and S lines are always pretty similar, especially last year and this year. And the Note line is always a reflection of the S line.

    In 2015 we had 5.1, 5.7 and 5.7" devices. In 2016 it's 5.1, 5.5 and 5.7". Seems like this year makes more sense than last year.
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    07-29-2016 04:25 PM
  8. Murph5150's Avatar
    I think, despite the onslaught of rumors that are beginning to all say the same thing, we still have to maintain a prospective. Nothing is official as of yet, obviously, since Samsung has announced nothing.

    But, to humor the rumors of a 3500 mAh battery, 4 GB RAM, and an 820 SoC, I'm more likely to go with the S7 Edge. The US price is "rumored" to be between $800 and $900. I don't need a stylus, and if the S7 Edge will have tantamount performance to the Note 7, I'll keep the extra $250 bucks in my pocket.

    People seem to get unreasonably argumentative over this stuff. Android is a line built to suit the unique needs and wants of the consumer. It's 100% understandable some people are upset that the internals might mimic the S7 Edge. The OnePlus 3 offers 6 GB RAM so a new benchmark has been set. Tech companies want to stay ahead of the competition, not be parallel to it. A lot of people thought an 821 or 823 processor would be the Note 7 engine and the idea that the lesser 820 and lesser RAM isn't an abnormal reaction to be disappointed.

    We only have four more days to wait and the truth shall set us free. Let's cross our fingers and hope it gets the jacked specs. If it doesn't, life goes on.

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    07-29-2016 04:34 PM
  9. Blues Fan's Avatar
    I think, despite the onslaught of rumors that are beginning to all say the same thing, we still have to maintain a prospective. Nothing is official as of yet, obviously, since Samsung has announced nothing.

    But, to humor the rumors of a 3500 mAh battery, 4 GB RAM, and an 820 SoC, I'm more likely to go with the S7 Edge. The US price is "rumored" to be between $800 and $900. I don't need a stylus, and if the S7 Edge will have tantamount performance to the Note 7, I'll keep the extra $250 bucks in my pocket.

    People seem to get unreasonably argumentative over this stuff. Android is a line built to suit the unique needs and wants of the consumer. It's 100% understandable some people are upset that the internals might mimic the S7 Edge. The OnePlus 3 offers 6 GB RAM so a new benchmark has been set. Tech companies want to stay ahead of the competition, not be parallel to it. A lot of people thought an 821 or 823 processor would be the Note 7 engine and the idea that the lesser 820 and lesser RAM isn't an abnormal reaction to be disappointed.

    We only have four more days to wait and the truth shall set us free. Let's cross our fingers and hope it gets the jacked specs. If it doesn't, life goes on.

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    If an Note 7 is near $900 I will probably go with the unlocked S7 Edge from Best Buy. I jut can't justify paying 900 for a smart phone then add in cases and tax and you're over a grand. I can buy a top of the line laptop with that chunk of money or Ipad. I would give the V20 a serious look too if it comes built like a tank again and beefy specs and will probably be cheaper than a Note 7 too. Maybe even Iphone 7plus too.

    I can't see Samsung charging 900 for the Note 7 64gb especially if the specs are not much better than the Edge. I just don't see these selling well at all then unless they're targeting a very small percentage of business users and don't expect to sell a ton of units. Maybe they want the S7E to take the place of most Note users and target the Note 7 for the small percentage of professionals?
    07-29-2016 05:00 PM
  10. Aquila's Avatar
    I can understand the 6 GB RAM as a desired, but realistically 4 GB is plenty - even the OP3 doesn't use 6 GB of RAM. It just has 6 GB, which on Android is quite superfluous. The 821 as a possibility also makes sense, but the 823 does not. That's a 2017 SoC. Having it on a 2016 phone wouldn't be possible or make sense. But this happens every year with the Note series. Every year, the rumors start with some gargantuan and impossible spec rumors, then everyone finds out it's a Note-ified S phone and is somehow disappointed, even though it's doing what it always does.
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    07-29-2016 05:27 PM
  11. Premium1's Avatar
    a slightly larger screen, S Pen and a smaller battery?

    I'm not that excited paying top dollar for 6-8 month old hardware in a new package.

    What gives?
    The difference is this is aimed at a different crowd. Obviously if you have the s7 edge then it may seem like little of an upgrade. They aren't aiming for those to buy this though, they want to get note 5/4/3 users to upgrade to this, which would be a huge upgrade.
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    07-29-2016 06:33 PM
  12. Murph5150's Avatar
    If an Note 7 is near $900 I will probably go with the unlocked S7 Edge from Best Buy. I jut can't justify paying 900 for a smart phone then add in cases and tax and you're over a grand. I can buy a top of the line laptop with that chunk of money or Ipad. I would give the V20 a serious look too if it comes built like a tank again and beefy specs and will probably be cheaper than a Note 7 too. Maybe even Iphone 7plus too.

    I can't see Samsung charging 900 for the Note 7 64gb especially if the specs are not much better than the Edge. I just don't see these selling well at all then unless they're targeting a very small percentage of business users and don't expect to sell a ton of units. Maybe they want the S7E to take the place of most Note users and target the Note 7 for the small percentage of professionals?
    $900 is a lot considering a top of the line phone 5 years ago on a two year renewal would run $199.99. My Samsung laptop with an i5 processor and all of the latest software ran me $650 on Black Friday last year. I'm still trying to digest the enormous cost of present day high end phones.

    But, I understand why they're expensive. The research and development going into these devices is a whole new playing field. Companies require more engineers and more raw R&D time. Also the technology in these phones is pretty amazing when you consider that a time not long ago, owning the Motorola Razor made you cool.

    I don't think I'm ready to throw down $900 on a cell phone yet. I'll spring for an S7 Edge. Who would have thought cell phones would be more costly than computers lol?

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    07-29-2016 07:06 PM
  13. boufa's Avatar
    The note 7 is a huge disappointment compared to my Ford Escape, but that's not a fair comparison. Neither is the comparison to the S7 edge. They are very different devices, aimed at a different crowd. For those who think the S7 Edge is the right phone for them, it is available. The Note 7 is not an upgrade from it, nor is it intended to be one. Its the large form factor version.

    One other note, do you realize that people on reddit, this forum, and all the other internet sites combine to a fraction of a percent of the Note purchasers. So our hatered or love of a device amounts to nearly nothing to Samsung... nor should it. Now take the percentage of users who actually paid for a S7 device and will now be considering a Note 7.... talk about a minuscule subset of the market. Hey all the more power to ya... but you account for a tiny, tiny, tiny amount of business, and are not even considered in the conversation when either device is being developed...(Thank god!)
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    07-29-2016 07:28 PM
  14. boufa's Avatar
    One other note (punny)... A waterproof Note??? How much space does that waterproof enclosure for the s-pen take? More than you would imagine I figure. Sure the battery is a little smaller, a whopping 100mah, but there is a comparatively huge waterproof void inside for the s-pen. All things considered I'm OK with it.
    07-29-2016 07:32 PM
  15. Jaycemiskel's Avatar
    Yeah it bothers me, but only because I wanted an excuse to upgrade lol. It's really not any better than my S7e except for the spen which I'm not sure I would use enough to justify spending 900 bucks. My wife wants one though as she's not a spec head like I am. If there's a bogof I might still end up with one.
    07-29-2016 08:41 PM
  16. TJA3500's Avatar
    It doesn't bother me at all because I like my wife's S7 and if it had an S Pen it would be perfect for me.
    07-29-2016 08:50 PM
  17. Blues Fan's Avatar
    $900 is a lot considering a top of the line phone 5 years ago on a two year renewal would run $199.99. My Samsung laptop with an i5 processor and all of the latest software ran me $650 on Black Friday last year. I'm still trying to digest the enormous cost of present day high end phones.

    But, I understand why they're expensive. The research and development going into these devices is a whole new playing field. Companies require more engineers and more raw R&D time. Also the technology in these phones is pretty amazing when you consider that a time not long ago, owning the Motorola Razor made you cool.

    I don't think I'm ready to throw down $900 on a cell phone yet. I'll spring for an S7 Edge. Who would have thought cell phones would be more costly than computers lol?

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Plus over the last few years incomes generally have not been going up as well. They're down since the recession people make less than they did before the recession. You would think the prices like computers would go down eventually. Remember when desktops used to be like $3000? Best Buy now has the black S7 edge instock, order online which is only $749. If the Note is over $840 or so I might consider it. The only way this should cost near $900 if it's for a version that is 128gb for a 64gb is too much. Unless you use a ton of storage space and already have a Note 5 then I don't see the reason to upgrade from a Note 5 just for an Iris scanner unless you need the water resistance. I'm curious how much the V20 will cost though. If it has the outstanding camera, removable battery, and IR blaster and is cheaper then I might go for it especially if they include a free battery like they do with their phones sometimes. Plus it's more durable and slap on a Defender style case and don't have to worry as much about it. Even these new Galaxy's with a Defender on it I'd still worry about the back glass shattering.
    07-29-2016 09:23 PM
  18. Murph5150's Avatar
    The note 7 is a huge disappointment compared to my Ford Escape, but that's not a fair comparison. Neither is the comparison to the S7 edge. They are very different devices, aimed at a different crowd. For those who think the S7 Edge is the right phone for them, it is available. The Note 7 is not an upgrade from it, nor is it intended to be one. Its the large form factor version.

    One other note, do you realize that people on reddit, this forum, and all the other internet sites combine to a fraction of a percent of the Note purchasers. So our hatered or love of a device amounts to nearly nothing to Samsung... nor should it. Now take the percentage of users who actually paid for a S7 device and will now be considering a Note 7.... talk about a minuscule subset of the market. Hey all the more power to ya... but you account for a tiny, tiny, tiny amount of business, and are not even considered in the conversation when either device is being developed...(Thank god!)
    I would've said the Ford Escape is a huge disappointment compared to the Note 7.

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    07-30-2016 10:01 AM
  19. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    I would rather have an updated processor and 6GB of ram than a gimmicky iris scanner.
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    07-30-2016 01:27 PM
  20. Blues Fan's Avatar
    I would rather have an updated processor and 6GB of ram than a gimmicky iris scanner.
    Same here. Finger print scanner works just fine for me. Iris scanner is a gimmick.
    07-30-2016 01:54 PM
  21. rsmin's Avatar
    Same here. Finger print scanner works just fine for me. Iris scanner is a gimmick.
    Well I read where a nurse said it would help them when they are wearing latex gloves they wouldn't have to take the gloves off to unlock the phone.
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    07-30-2016 02:39 PM
  22. srsgonu's Avatar
    It amazes me that people are turning this situation into a negative.

    Samsung saw the desire from people who wanted a phone bigger than the standard Galaxy Galaxy S line, but didn't need the Notes features, so they created the S7 Edge this year to fit that demographic. And people have raved about how great the phone is, overall.

    Now, all of a sudden, people are up in arms all over the Internet because the Note may not have a big spec increase over the S7 Edge, and that it's just a S7E with s-pen.

    Yes, that's pretty much what it is. And that's awesome! If the S7 Edge was never released, people would be losing their minds over how amazing the Note 7 is, with its huge battery increase over the Note 5, USB C, etc.
    If not for changes, Samsung can release all 3 phones at the same time. If they are taking time, people expect change and mostly improvements.

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    07-30-2016 03:04 PM
  23. blitz118's Avatar
    I would rather have an updated processor and 6GB of ram than a gimmicky iris scanner.
    You don't have to buy the phone if you're disappointed. Keep your phone, and wait for the best next thing.
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    07-30-2016 03:09 PM
  24. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    You don't have to buy the phone if you're disappointed. Keep your phone, and wait for the best next thing.
    I'll buy the phone disappointment and all. Would have been happier with an update processor and ram though.
    07-30-2016 03:18 PM
  25. Dr Claw's Avatar
    Not really. I was going to get a S7 Edge THROUGH THE CARRIER just because I thought it was an awesome phone. But then Samsung brought out the Unlocked version. And now this. So a "Note" that is close to the next best thing, plus the S Pen...
    07-30-2016 03:20 PM
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