08-23-2016 07:18 AM
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  1. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Lol, I guess you've never truly experienced the joys of swappable batteries. Battery packs are cumbersome and nowhere near as convenient.
    I've done both. Not much difference IMO.
    08-07-2016 01:09 PM
  2. damule6666's Avatar
    Also I feel the need to express this aspect....

    Water resistance as well as "premium" construction is marketing smoke and mirrors for the truth. The truth is, a fixed battery of any type represents forced obsolesence by the carrier and manufacturers. They have cleverly disguised planned obsolesence by using words like "Premium Handset", and "IPX water submersion", since no battery will sustain its original capacity beyond ~2 years.

    The reality is though we should not have to make a choice one way or the other... There is no reason manufacturers and carriers can not give us BOTH water resistance and a replace-able battery. Look at water submersible point and shoot cameras. All it takes is a trap door and gasket seal to achieve BOTH water resistance and removable batteries.
    The fact that the % of people keeping these devices beyond the 2 year mark is probably pretty low. (And I know there will be people who do) but the fact most don't. So knowing this they went with the obvious popular choice for most. Companies don't continue to produce items people don't buy (successful ones anyway) if the curved screen and sealed batteries weren't what the masses wanted, they'd change it..
    08-07-2016 01:11 PM
  3. Climb14er's Avatar
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    08-07-2016 01:14 PM
  4. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    What are you talking about? ๐Ÿ™„

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    What is who talking about?
    08-07-2016 01:15 PM
  5. Climb14er's Avatar
    The non-removable battery isn't about being water resistant. The S5 was water resistant.
    What are you talking about? ๐Ÿ™„

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    08-07-2016 01:16 PM
  6. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    What are you talking about? ๐Ÿ™„

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    Umm.. They can make a phone water resistant with a removable battery.

    The non-removable battery is for other reasons, not so the phone will be water resistant.
    08-07-2016 01:17 PM
  7. Climb14er's Avatar
    Umm.. They can make a phone water resistant with a removable battery.

    The non-removable battery is for other reasons, not so the phone will be water resistant.
    Did you actually read what I wrote? I don't think so.

    I prefer a phone with BOTH water resistance and removable battery. Sammy moved away to sealed for who knows what reason? Thinness? Planned obsolescence?

    At this point in life, I think it was to copy Apple for slim, sealed, and getting buyers to update every year.

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    08-07-2016 01:21 PM
  8. kramer5150's Avatar
    Yes... this obsolescence is one reason I chose removeable battery.

    I too cannot understand why the Samsung cannot make removeable battery and water resistant.

    Sammy is marketing Smart. They want people to update EVERY YEAR. That's too much in my book.

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    .

    EXACTLY... the point here is THEY CAN design for BOTH water resistance and a removable battery. The previous generation Galaxy phones boasted this capability, I think it was the S5 or S4??. Samsung very quickly realized "Hey we can make more $$$ if we force everyone to obsolete their device every other year... Lets give them an all glass phone, seal it up and disguise it with punch lines like "Premium Handset".

    So again its all smoke and mirrors (almost literally) to cover the truth.
    08-07-2016 01:21 PM
  9. recDNA's Avatar
    Neither. I would prefer bigger internal battery. Much bigger.
    08-07-2016 01:21 PM
  10. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Did you actually read what I wrote? I don't think so.

    I prefer a phone with BOTH water resistance and removable battery. Sammy moved away to sealed for who knows what reason? Thinness? Planned obsolescence?

    At this point in life, I think it was to copy Apple for slim, sealed, and getting buyers to update every year.

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    I did read what you wrote and oddly someone right below your post addressed the same thing.

    You wrote this:
    08-07-2016 01:24 PM
  11. Climb14er's Avatar
    What is who talking about?
    You can have the stage... you know everything. Or think you do. ๐Ÿ˜…

    Is there an ignore feature on this forum? I've got to look for one.

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    08-07-2016 01:30 PM
  12. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    You can have the stage... you know everything. Or think you do. ๐Ÿ˜…

    Is there an ignore feature on this forum? I've got to look for one.

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    I addressed an issue, I didn't claim to know everything. Ignore a team member, you might can, but whatever.

    I'm not sure what about my post offended you.
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    08-07-2016 01:32 PM
  13. Mike Dee's Avatar
    And I get that but your instant response was to put away my phone .. As in not acknowledging any situation where it could be useful. Hence my responses. You then went on to even insults those people by saying they are "knuckle heads" and that "society is doomed" because we don't have your exact scenario all the time. Not very fair IMO.
    If you saw what I saw on the streets of Manhattan on a daily basis you would understand my comments.

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    08-07-2016 01:47 PM
  14. naturalguy#AC's Avatar
    Lol, I guess you've never truly experienced the joys of swappable batteries. Battery packs are cumbersome and nowhere near as convenient.
    I've had swappable batteries before but the juice packs are better, I have the slim Samsung fast charger.
    08-07-2016 01:47 PM
  15. dpham00's Avatar
    You can have the stage... you know everything. Or think you do. ๐Ÿ˜…

    Is there an ignore feature on this forum? I've got to look for one.

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    It is in the settings.... Direct link here

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/pro...?do=ignorelist
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    08-07-2016 01:48 PM
  16. Climb14er's Avatar
    It is in the settings.... Direct link here

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/pro...?do=ignorelist
    Thank you!

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    08-07-2016 02:35 PM
  17. jim2112's Avatar
    I would rather have both. I don't switch batteries out often, but I like the option. I also change it every 6 months to a year if I feel they are degrading. I don't want to have the Iphone option of buying a new phone if I want more memory or another battery. If they had a sealed back that allowed me to remove it and replace the battery I would be more ok with it. I don't like a mandidtory upgrade every year or live with a degraded battery. I just changed the batteries on my note 3's again for $5 each and they are working like new again. As far as a biased poll, this is a Note 7 section, so most have already decided to go that way. I am reading the forum to see how the phone performs and may buy a new one (didn't say upgrade) for someone else who thinks they want something new.
    08-07-2016 03:20 PM
  18. jim2112's Avatar
    I also don't like the idea of having to load hundreds of apps and populate the data I will have to back up. I tell people to reset the phone before buying a new one, the result will be the same as a new one will need completely rebuilt from the ground up anyway. Many have forgotten what their phone was like when new, a reset is a chance to restore it to that state.
    08-07-2016 03:24 PM
  19. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I also don't like the idea of having to load hundreds of apps and populate the data I will have to back up. I tell people to reset the phone before buying a new one, the result will be the same as a new one will need completely rebuilt from the ground up anyway. Many have forgotten what their phone was like when new, a reset is a chance to restore it to that state.
    I'm not sure what you are talking about here exactly..
    08-07-2016 03:41 PM
  20. stanleybb50's Avatar
    Never thought of it until now, but surprisingly, I think I'd rather have the water resistance.

    If it weren't for fast charging, I wouldn't feel this way. Fast charging changed everything for me. I had 2 spare batteries for my Note 4, like I did for my GN3 and GS3, but the fast charge was almost just easier to top up here/there on that note 4 than the swapping and remembering to charge the spares and stuff.

    Note 5 - same. I'm good with no removable battery. But I only keep phones for a year... So... I never really reach that point if batteries running low.
    08-07-2016 04:54 PM
  21. jim2112's Avatar
    I'm talking about when my battery gets degraded, I can slide a new one in the phone in under a minute and I don't have to deal with setting up a new phone the way I like it. I have tons of apps and data I really don't want to have to try to reload and set up. A phone without a removable battery leaves me with the only option of charging it way too often, or buying a new one and setting it up. I live on my phone, I use it religiously for all kinds of things to get me through the day. My phone is not a toy to me, I rely on it and once I get it set up I prefer to keep it as long as possible. It's not even a money thing for me, it's more of a "I don't want to spend a month trying to load it up and set it up again" kind of thing. I will be waiting to see if the LG V20 has a removable battery 6 September, it is likely since the last one had a removable battery.
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    08-07-2016 06:44 PM
  22. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    I'm talking about when my battery gets degraded, I can slide a new one in the phone in under a minute and I don't have to deal with setting up a new phone the way I like it. I have tons of apps and data I really don't want to have to try to reload and set up. A phone without a removable battery leaves me with the only option of charging it way too often, or buying a new one and setting it up. I live on my phone, I use it religiously for all kinds of things to get me through the day. My phone is not a toy to me, I rely on it and once I get it set up I prefer to keep it as long as possible. It's not even a money thing for me, it's more of a "I don't want to spend a month trying to load it up and set it up again" kind of thing.
    That's wonderful, it really is. But keep in mind most people hear DO buy new phones every year or two. So a battery degrading is a non issue.

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    08-07-2016 06:48 PM
  23. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I'm talking about when my battery gets degraded, I can slide a new one in the phone in under a minute and I don't have to deal with setting up a new phone the way I like it. I have tons of apps and data I really don't want to have to try to reload and set up. A phone without a removable battery leaves me with the only option of charging it way too often, or buying a new one and setting it up. I live on my phone, I use it religiously for all kinds of things to get me through the day. My phone is not a toy to me, I rely on it and once I get it set up I prefer to keep it as long as possible. It's not even a money thing for me, it's more of a "I don't want to spend a month trying to load it up and set it up again" kind of thing. I will be waiting to see if the LG V20 has a removable battery 6 September, it is likely since the last one had a removable battery.
    A month to set it back up?
    08-07-2016 06:51 PM
  24. cert15z's Avatar
    Water resistance by far. I have never hot swapped batteries.
    08-07-2016 07:11 PM
  25. Jude526's Avatar
    Guess that is why am looking for a battery pak. I like replacement batteries. I am not near water and am careful with my stuff

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    08-07-2016 07:42 PM
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