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  1. jshah500's Avatar
    Is the Note 7 still waterproof if I have the pen out and am using it? I ask because that would mean there's an open hole on the bottom on the phone, not sure if it would still be waterproofed.
    08-10-2016 11:09 AM
  2. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Is the Note 7 still waterproof if I have the pen out and am using it? I ask because that would mean there's an open hole on the bottom on the phone, not sure if it would still be waterproofed.
    The Note 7 is not water proof, it is water resistant.
    08-10-2016 11:10 AM
  3. keepnitreel's Avatar
    Video shows dude using the s pen to write on the N7 underwater... also the do claim that the s pen slot and the pen itself is water resistant
    08-10-2016 11:19 AM
  4. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Video shows dude using the s pen to write on the N7 underwater... also the do claim that the s pen slot and the pen itself is water resistant
    Water resistant. Please don't use your Note 7's in water. It is an electronic device.
    08-10-2016 11:22 AM
  5. jshah500's Avatar
    Water resistant. Please don't use your Note 7's in water. It is an electronic device.
    We understand, and you're not being helpful answering the question. It's all semantics, I'm not going to go scuba diving with my phone.
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    08-10-2016 11:24 AM
  6. jshah500's Avatar
    Video shows dude using the s pen to write on the N7 underwater... also the do claim that the s pen slot and the pen itself is water resistant
    Thanks for the helpful reply.
    08-10-2016 11:24 AM
  7. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    We understand, and you're not being helpful answering the question. It's all semantics, I'm not going to go scuba diving with my phone.
    Yes, this isn't a new issue or the first phone.

    The spen doesn't seal the tube, it is sealed higher.

    Again, use it in water at your own risk, water damage voids the warranty. This is per Samsung.
    08-10-2016 11:26 AM
  8. Katrina White1's Avatar
    Yes, this isn't a new issue or the first phone.

    The spen doesn't seal the tube, it is sealed higher.

    Again, use it in water at your own risk, water damage voids the warranty. This is per Samsung.
    I don't doubt you one bit. But rhetorically, how could Samsung void the warranty for using the phone as advertised? Doesn't make sense to me. If you're gonna void the warranty for water damage, don't advertise using it under water.

    At&t Note5
    08-10-2016 11:33 AM
  9. mxrider821's Avatar
    Water resistant. Please don't use your Note 7's in water. It is an electronic device.
    The Note 7 has an IP68 rating for water... Let me break it down for EVERYONE ๐Ÿ˜‰


    *What is IP68? IP ratings explained
    The recently unveiled N7 will ship with an IP68 rating. So what exactly does that mean?


    *IP address

    First up, let's address what IP actually means. It stands for 'Ingress Protection'.

    This is a rating system set forth by the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) to inform consumers of how well protected an electronic device is against foreign bodies.

    An IP rating actually tells you two things about the device it's attributed to - how well it resists water ingress, and how well it resists dust ingress.

    *Numbers game

    This two-stage rating is what the two numbers following the 'IP' part stand for.

    The first number always corresponds to how resistant to solid objects the device is, right down to and including dust, while the second number relates to its level of water resistance.

    Perhaps confusingly, the two scales are configured a little differently. For starters, dust resistance is marked from 0 to 6, while water resistance goes from 0 to 8.

    In general, the higher the number the better. However, the water rating operates slightly differently beyond IPX6. Just because a device has secured a 7 or 8 on the liquid ingress side of things, doesn't mean it's automatically been tested for IPs 1 through to 6.

    This is why something like the Sony Xperia Z5 has been given both an IP68 and an IP65 rating. This means that it can withstand light water jets as well as full immersion, and is thus more water resistant than the N7.

    *IP68

    Given the aforementioned information, you can probably figure out that the IP68 rating given to the N7 is fairly strong.

    While this means that the phone is completely dust resistant, again it isn't quite so simple for the liquid ingress rating.

    Instead, it means that the phone is "protected from immersion in water with a depth of more than 1 meter," according to the IEC. The usage case supplied for this is "Rain, splashing and accidental submersion."

    The IEC requires that the manufacturer itself supplies the precise depth and length of time the device can be exposed to water in such a rating, and in the N7 case Samsung says that it can withstand "Up to 30 minutes or 1.5 meters under (water)"

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    08-10-2016 11:33 AM
  10. keepnitreel's Avatar
    Water resistant. Please don't use your Note 7's in water. It is an electronic device.
    People have been using their S7 edge phones to take pictures underwater inside pools, with no problems
    PlaybookFanatic and KoukiFC3S like this.
    08-10-2016 11:34 AM
  11. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I don't doubt you one bit. But rhetorically, how could Samsung void the warranty for using the phone as advertised? Doesn't make sense to me. If you're gonna void the warranty for water damage, don't advertise using it under water.

    At&t Note5
    Because it is water resistant, not water proof.
    08-10-2016 11:37 AM
  12. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    The Note 7 has an IP68 rating for water... Let me break it down for EVERYONE ๐Ÿ˜‰


    *What is IP68? IP ratings explained
    The recently unveiled N7 will ship with an IP68 rating. So what exactly does that mean?


    *IP address

    First up, let's address what IP actually means. It stands for 'Ingress Protection'.

    This is a rating system set forth by the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) to inform consumers of how well protected an electronic device is against foreign bodies.

    An IP rating actually tells you two things about the device it's attributed to - how well it resists water ingress, and how well it resists dust ingress.

    *Numbers game

    This two-stage rating is what the two numbers following the 'IP' part stand for.

    The first number always corresponds to how resistant to solid objects the device is, right down to and including dust, while the second number relates to its level of water resistance.

    Perhaps confusingly, the two scales are configured a little differently. For starters, dust resistance is marked from 0 to 6, while water resistance goes from 0 to 8.

    In general, the higher the number the better. However, the water rating operates slightly differently beyond IPX6. Just because a device has secured a 7 or 8 on the liquid ingress side of things, doesn't mean it's automatically been tested for IPs 1 through to 6.

    This is why something like the Sony Xperia Z5 has been given both an IP68 and an IP65 rating. This means that it can withstand light water jets as well as full immersion, and is thus more water resistant than the N7.

    *IP68

    Given the aforementioned information, you can probably figure out that the IP68 rating given to the N7 is fairly strong.

    While this means that the phone is completely dust resistant, again it isn't quite so simple for the liquid ingress rating.

    Instead, it means that the phone is "protected from immersion in water with a depth of more than 1 meter," according to the IEC. The usage case supplied for this is "Rain, splashing and accidental submersion."

    The IEC requires that the manufacturer itself supplies the precise depth and length of time the device can be exposed to water in such a rating, and in the N7 case Samsung says that it can withstand "Up to 30 minutes or 1.5 meters under (water)"

    Posted via the Android Central App
    We got it. I gave the standard warning. I won't be putting mine in water.
    08-10-2016 11:38 AM
  13. ibcop's Avatar
    OP, from what I have seen and read, you should be good to go with the device is subjected to water while the pen is out.
    08-10-2016 11:48 AM
  14. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    People have been using their S7 edge phones to take pictures underwater inside pools, with no problems
    And if one of them goes to exchange the phone for problems and they see water damage they won't be covered.
    Kelly Kearns likes this.
    08-10-2016 11:57 AM
  15. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    Yes, this isn't a new issue or the first phone.

    The spen doesn't seal the tube, it is sealed higher.

    Again, use it in water at your own risk, water damage voids the warranty. This is per Samsung.
    You are annoyingly pretentious. The OP asked a question that was/is extremely relevant, and you decided to do everything BUT answerthe question. People like you make it hard for people to want to ask questions here because of attitudes like this.

    In other news...

    Theoretically, the phone can fall in the water with the pen out and be fine, OP. And quite honestly, I'd love to take mine to the pool with me every now and again...and intend to do just that!
    08-10-2016 12:08 PM
  16. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    We got it. I gave the standard warning. I won't be putting mine in water.
    But no one asked you what you were/weren't going to do with yours, it was whether the phone retained it's IP68 without the pen, to which the answer is simply....YES. A RESOUNDING YES.
    08-10-2016 12:10 PM
  17. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    People have been using their S7 edge phones to take pictures underwater inside pools, with no problems
    Any good videos you wanna link our way, I've seen a few but I'd love to see some cool ones.
    08-10-2016 12:11 PM
  18. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    You are annoyingly pretentious. The OP asked a question that was/is extremely relevant, and you decided to do everything BUT answerthe question. People like you make it hard for people to want to ask questions here because of attitudes like this.

    In other news...

    Theoretically, the phone can fall in the water with the pen out and be fine, OP. And quite honestly, I'd love to take mine to the pool with me every now and again...and intend to do just that!
    Because I am not going to tell someone to put an electronic device in the water. I am going to tell them if you want to do that, get a guaranteed waterproof case.

    Water damage voids the warranty. I'm here to help, not encourage someone to do something with their phone that might ruin it.

    Thanks for your personal feedback of me!
    08-10-2016 12:12 PM
  19. shrxwin's Avatar
    don't the ads tell us we can take notes in the shower? I was planning to do that every day!

    edit to add link to the tweet they sent:
    https://twitter.com/SamsungMobileUS/...17477658873856
    08-10-2016 12:13 PM
  20. dpham00's Avatar
    I don't doubt you one bit. But rhetorically, how could Samsung void the warranty for using the phone as advertised? Doesn't make sense to me. If you're gonna void the warranty for water damage, don't advertise using it under water.

    At&t Note5
    Because ip68 is under very specific conditions... Stagnant Tap water, 5' for 30 minutes.

    Samsung will cover you if it is a manufacturer defect like on some s7a units in which it didn't meet ip68, but say you put it in your pocket swimming or... Diving into water... That wouldn't be covered. Drops can also impact ip68...

    You can send it in to Samsung for analysis in case of water damage , but... Why take the risk?
    08-10-2016 12:14 PM
  21. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    don't the ads tell us we can take notes in the shower? I was planning to do that every day!
    Boom.
    08-10-2016 12:14 PM
  22. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    Because I am not going to tell someone to put an electronic device in the water. I am going to tell them if you want to do that, get a guaranteed waterproof case.

    Water damage voids the warranty. I'm here to help, not encourage someone to do something with their phone that might ruin it.

    Thanks for your personal feedback of me!
    See, that's the thing...the OP wasn't asking for a warning. I highly doubt he was about to backflip off a diving board into the Dead Sea with their Note 7. They simply wanted to know about the rating without the pen.

    And you're welcome! I'm always available for further analysis upon request. Inquire within for office hours and rates.
    08-10-2016 12:17 PM
  23. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    See, that's the thing...the OP wasn't asking for a warning. I highly doubt he was about to backflip off a diving board into the Dead Sea with their Note 7. They simply wanted to know about the rating without the pen.

    And you're welcome! I'm always available for further analysis upon request. Inquire within for office hours and rates.
    You have a nice day, you hear?
    08-10-2016 12:19 PM
  24. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    Lmfaooooooo
    08-10-2016 12:22 PM
  25. Preach2k's Avatar
    Water resistant. Please don't use your Note 7's in water. It is an electronic device.


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    08-10-2016 12:23 PM
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