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  1. spasell's Avatar
    You missed the part where we stated this was...a joke? Must have lol.

    But if you'd like a serious answer, I had great experiences with all of that on my Note 4. She was a beast.
    I understand it came off as a joke. But, in reality, I always hear about the productivity that can be done on the Note or any mobile phone device. I'd love to know the trick of doing that.

    I do a lot of Office tasks - PPT development, Word Docs, Excel, etc. I have never used a mobile device to create anything like that. Creation to me is productivity. Using documents, reading them, etc is quite different, and both OS' do a fine job of doing that.

    If the argument is that Android is more customizable for personal use, yup, 100% agree. I just think the "productivity" angle on mobile devices is a bit overplayed.
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    08-11-2016 11:06 AM
  2. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    I understand it came off as a joke. But, in reality, I always hear about the productivity that can be done on the Note or any mobile phone device. I'd love to know the trick of doing that.

    I do a lot of Office tasks - PPT development, Word Docs, Excel, etc. I have never used a mobile device to create anything like that. Creation to me is productivity. Using documents, reading them, etc is quite different, and both OS' do a fine job of doing that.

    If the argument is that Android is more customizable for personal use, yup, 100% agree. I just think the "productivity" angle on mobile devices is a bit overplayed.
    I dunno about that because I'mnot one of the ones who used that line. I WAS however able to do everything all day on my Note 4. That phone was an insane moment in phone creation. Just loved it.
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    08-11-2016 11:10 AM
  3. kazman12's Avatar
    You missed the part where we stated this was...a joke? Must have lol.

    But if you'd like a serious answer, I had great experiences with all of that on my Note 4. She was a beast.
    YOU stated his comment was a joke. He is telling you it wasn't a joke.

    Cool to see you did all of the same things he did. Your old phone sounds like a real 'beast'.
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    08-11-2016 11:10 AM
  4. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    YOU stated his comment was a joke. He is telling you it wasn't a joke.

    Cool to see you did all of the same things he did. Your old phone sounds like a real 'beast'.
    Wait. Was this sarcasm?

    And he and I already had addressed the issue. I didn't say his comment was a joke. I stated that *I* was making a funny. Devaluing people's opinions isn't my idea of fun.
    08-11-2016 11:28 AM
  5. spasell's Avatar
    Wait. Was this sarcasm?

    And he and I already had addressed the issue. I didn't say his comment was a joke. I stated that *I* was making a funny. Devaluing people's opinions isn't my idea of fun.
    You're good...I wasn't offended...I was simply wondering what makes a phone more productive over another.

    I am a power user. I have my phone next to me at all times, and grab it for everything...well, everything except when I need to be able to evaluate spreadsheets, develop PPT's, etc (as I already mentioned).

    Email, web, music, etc, yup, all mobile. Productivity stuff? MacBook retina 2016.

    Personally I prefer Android OS. I love the built in features of Google on all android devices..they work better obviously vs downloading to IOS device. But there are good things about both devices and OS'. I've gone back and forth which I think is a testament to both.

    For me, battery is one of the single biggest factors when I consider a device. The iPhone Plus is WAY better than regular iPhones. I am never tethered to a wall with my iPhone 6s+...Turned my iPhone on today at 5:45am and I'm at 79% almost 7 hours later...been using it for email and text all morning long....Uber today as well as reading WSJ and Feedly. I'll typically get 11-13 hours easy with about 10-15% left so I can get 12-14 hours. For my use, that is the sweet spot.

    My Note 5, for all the tweaks I made, things I had to disable, would give me 8-10 hours and I'd have 10-15% left. I did everything I could to ensure longer battery.

    The second for more is apps. I think Android and IOS are about even in that department. Some apps look better on Android and some on IOS. I use Facebook, Outlook, Feedly, WSJ, Instagram, Safari or Chrome, Evernote, and a bunch of financial and travel apps. They all work well for each device.

    I do use the Wallet often on my iPhone and since I travel via plane a lot, I like the handy boarding passes that go into that feature.
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    08-11-2016 11:40 AM
  6. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    You're good...I wasn't offended...I was simply wondering what makes a phone more productive over another.

    I am a power user. I have my phone next to me at all times, and grab it for everything...well, everything except when I need to be able to evaluate spreadsheets, develop PPT's, etc (as I already mentioned).

    Email, web, music, etc, yup, all mobile. Productivity stuff? MacBook retina 2016.

    Personally I prefer Android OS. I love the built in features of Google on all android devices..they work better obviously vs downloading to IOS device. But there are good things about both devices and OS'. I've gone back and forth which I think is a testament to both.

    For me, battery is one of the single biggest factors when I consider a device. The iPhone Plus is WAY better than regular iPhones. I am never tethered to a wall with my iPhone 6s+...Turned my iPhone on today at 5:45am and I'm at 79% almost 7 hours later...been using it for email and text all morning long....Uber today as well as reading WSJ and Feedly. I'll typically get 11-13 hours easy with about 10-15% left so I can get 12-14 hours. For my use, that is the sweet spot.

    My Note 5, for all the tweaks I made, things I had to disable, would give me 8-10 hours and I'd have 10-15% left. I did everything I could to ensure longer battery.

    The second for more is apps. I think Android and IOS are about even in that department. Some apps look better on Android and some on IOS. I use Facebook, Outlook, Feedly, WSJ, Instagram, Safari or Chrome, Evernote, and a bunch of financial and travel apps. They all work well for each device.

    I do use the Wallet often on my iPhone and since I travel via plane a lot, I like the handy boarding passes that go into that feature.
    I'm glad we understand each other! 😄

    To answer your question, what makes a phone more productive is simply subjective, I believe. That's why I take battery reviews with a grain I'd salt. The only phone that has amazed me was the Note 4. But I believe the 7 will outperform it, as it should.

    A suggestion, and a reason that the 6+ does so well, for when you get your N7 is to set the resolution to that similar to the 6+ (1080 I believe). I'm personally going 720. 1080 isn't all that serious or necessary, imho, on a phone.
    08-11-2016 11:48 AM
  7. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I understand it came off as a joke. But, in reality, I always hear about the productivity that can be done on the Note or any mobile phone device. I'd love to know the trick of doing that.

    I do a lot of Office tasks - PPT development, Word Docs, Excel, etc. I have never used a mobile device to create anything like that. Creation to me is productivity. Using documents, reading them, etc is quite different, and both OS' do a fine job of doing that.

    If the argument is that Android is more customizable for personal use, yup, 100% agree. I just think the "productivity" angle on mobile devices is a bit overplayed.
    Oh that? I create spreadsheets, Word documents, etc. I also pull ones off my office server and update them constantly.
    08-11-2016 11:55 AM
  8. spasell's Avatar
    I'm glad we understand each other!

    To answer your question, what makes a phone more productive is simply subjective, I believe. That's why I take battery reviews with a grain I'd salt. The only phone that has amazed me was the Note 4. But I believe the 7 will outperform it, as it should.

    A suggestion, and a reason that the 6+ does so well, for when you get your N7 is to set the resolution to that similar to the 6+ (1080 I believe). I'm personally going 720. 1080 isn't all that serious or necessary, imho, on a phone.
    That will be an excellent option to be able to reduce resolution to 1080, which, as you said, is plenty good.
    08-11-2016 12:02 PM
  9. nokia4life's Avatar
    Attached to a cord.
    I have both the Note 5 (daily driver) and the iPhone 6s plus ( weekend and vacations) not sure how the answer above was helpful to the original questions, but I figure I would throw in some facts. My note 5 does run out of juice well before the 6s plus does the phrase attached to a cord is something that note 5 power users do as well. Either way, both use battery but the iPhone 6s plus 2,915mAh battery out last the Note 5's 3000mAh and it is mainly due to software and hardware confirguration.
    08-11-2016 02:06 PM
  10. spasell's Avatar
    I have both the Note 5 (daily driver) and the iPhone 6s plus ( weekend and vacations) not sure how the answer above was helpful to the original questions, but I figure I would throw in some facts. My note 5 does run out of juice well before the 6s plus does the phrase attached to a cord is something that note 5 power users do as well. Either way, both use battery but the iPhone 6s plus 2,915mAh battery out last the Note 5's 3000mAh and it is mainly due to software and hardware confirguration.
    I configured both my iPhone 6 plus and Note 5 the same. Identical including setting. No location used except when the apps are actually being used that need them.

    I ran tests for each one. As I documented months ago when I went back to iPhone 6+, I was getting an average of 2 more hours on my iPhone than the Note 5. I did not change the way I used each device...made settings identical. I guessed it has to do with the Note 5 having a higher resolution screen than the iPhone and therefore using more battery for that. Not 100% sure but I was pretty thorough about the whole thing.

    When I read that the Note 7 had a bigger battery but kept the same resolution and allows you to set it to 1080p, I decided to go back to the Note. For me, given my traveling and not having access to a charger at all times, the extras 2 hours is critical for me. If the Note 7 gives me 12-14 hours like my iPhone, I will be thrilled.
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    08-11-2016 02:18 PM
  11. French's Avatar
    O.k., I'm just going to say this...and hope I don't get slammed for it...I had an iPhone 6 (not the S and not the plus) and the battery on that lasted longer than my S7 (not edge) on any given day. I have concluded the reason for that is because I simply didn't USE the iPhone as much as I do my S7. Right or wrong, I have the S7 with me ALL the time and within arms reach. I'm constantly picking it up to google something, check the weather, read some news, tether to my iPad, read forums...etc. The iPhone I used for text and email (I use the S7 for those, too...just to be clear). But I didn't find myself constantly picking the iPhone up to just "check" stuff or read stuff or explore.

    So for me, the Galaxy does not last as long as my regular iPhone 6 did...but I didn't USE my iPhone like I do the S7. I can't get a solid day out of my S7, unfortunately. However I'm trying to change my way of thinking and just accept that topping off throughout the day, especially with quick charge, is NOT the end of the world. I have historically been of the opinion that my phone NEEDS to get through a full day without a cord. Motorolas in the android world have come the closest to being able to do that.

    I'm trying to come around...it's not like I don't have access to chargers throughout the day. Car, home, friend's homes, etc.
    08-11-2016 02:24 PM
  12. nokia4life's Avatar
    I configured both my iPhone 6 plus and Note 5 the same. Identical including setting. No location used except when the apps are actually being used that need them.

    I ran tests for each one. As I documented months ago when I went back to iPhone 6+, I was getting an average of 2 more hours on my iPhone than the Note 5. I did not change the way I used each device...made settings identical. I guessed it has to do with the Note 5 having a higher resolution screen than the iPhone and therefore using more battery for that. Not 100% sure but I was pretty thorough about the whole thing.

    When I read that the Note 7 had a bigger battery but kept the same resolution and allows you to set it to 1080p, I decided to go back to the Note. For me, given my traveling and not having access to a charger at all times, the extras 2 hours is critical for me. If the Note 7 gives me 12-14 hours like my iPhone, I will be thrilled.
    Oh I agree the note 7 will definitely out perform the note 5 battery wise at least it should based on what we are getting. I will definitely do test I pre ordered the black onyx.
    08-11-2016 02:24 PM
  13. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I configured both my iPhone 6 plus and Note 5 the same. Identical including setting. No location used except when the apps are actually being used that need them.

    I ran tests for each one. As I documented months ago when I went back to iPhone 6+, I was getting an average of 2 more hours on my iPhone than the Note 5. I did not change the way I used each device...made settings identical. I guessed it has to do with the Note 5 having a higher resolution screen than the iPhone and therefore using more battery for that. Not 100% sure but I was pretty thorough about the whole thing.

    When I read that the Note 7 had a bigger battery but kept the same resolution and allows you to set it to 1080p, I decided to go back to the Note. For me, given my traveling and not having access to a charger at all times, the extras 2 hours is critical for me. If the Note 7 gives me 12-14 hours like my iPhone, I will be thrilled.
    There is software and hardware differences between iPhone and all androids.

    The Note 2 had a 3100 mAh battery and the Note 5 has a 3000 mAh battery. No way the battery technology of the Note 2 would run the Note 5 for any time.

    Android does a lot more in the background than iPhone does, there are also more advances in Android apps today due to advances on hardware and software. Android apps can run and do more in the background than what the iPhone can allow.

    That is why you have to tweak your Android and I know that is hard for people coming from iPhone to understand. Some people wants apps doing everything they can do in the background and some just have certain apps they want going that. We may give up a little battery life for some other advantages with Android.

    Even something so silly as a couple of weeks ago.. My niece got me playing Pokémon Go with her. Very sunny day and she wanted to go downtown to play. My sister, my cousin and her daughter went with us. Two of us have Note 5's, we left the three iPhone users standing there taking turns shading the iPhone screen of each other so they could see the Pokémon on their screen. We walked on and didn't have to shade our Note 5's.

    Screen brightness and a good autobrightness is important to me. I have a convertible and live in the south. I'm in the car a lot with the top down and the sun shinning on my screen. I never have a problem seeing it. I would love a battery that will get me through the time I get up until I go to bed, every day, no matter what I do. But.. If every once in a while I have to plug in the battery pack or I'm somewhere I can charge because I've had extra heavy use.. I'll take that trade. It is more often I need the features than I have to charge before bed. I use the spen a lot, to the point I rarely have a pen in my purse. I don't have to carry a pen and pad with me everywhere.

    Both iPhone and Android users trade something. You just have to decide what you are willing to trade.
    08-11-2016 03:14 PM
  14. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    That will be an excellent option to be able to reduce resolution to 1080, which, as you said, is plenty good.
    Amen!
    08-11-2016 03:23 PM
  15. Siggystyle's Avatar
    Ok. So I had the Note 5. And I loved it. But something that I noticed was the battery seemed to not be that great after only owning it for a couple months.

    I was getting about 8-10 hours and I'm a power user. But really only gmail, Facebook, web surfing, office apps, and a lot of texting. Of course using Feedly and reading Android forums.

    The iPhone 6s Plus gives me 10-12 consistently and doesn't drain battery when sleeping. I noticed on my Note if not using overnight and not plugged in it would drop 5-7% but iPhone doesn't even drop 1%.

    I prefer Android and I really love Pen and the features that offers.

    So with all of that said, I am reading bigger battery on the Note 7 but the screen resolution remains the same so it seems like it would actually boost the battery vs having to compensate for better resolution.

    Thoughts on this? I'd love to make the move, grab that coral blue, and stay with Android. Sure my whole family is iPhone and I like the iMessage features, texting from my Mac, etc.

    But I really miss my Note. Now with this I am excited but I REALLY need 10-12 hours of battery for a power user.
    I would think that with the Note 7's newly customized power saving features, that it would really provide what you wete missing beforw (not to mention everything else packed into this bad boy)
    08-11-2016 05:19 PM
  16. Siggystyle's Avatar
    O.k., I'm just going to say this...and hope I don't get slammed for it...I had an iPhone 6 (not the S and not the plus) and the battery on that lasted longer than my S7 (not edge) on any given day. I have concluded the reason for that is because I simply didn't USE the iPhone as much as I do my S7. Right or wrong, I have the S7 with me ALL the time and within arms reach. I'm constantly picking it up to google something, check the weather, read some news, tether to my iPad, read forums...etc. The iPhone I used for text and email (I use the S7 for those, too...just to be clear). But I didn't find myself constantly picking the iPhone up to just "check" stuff or read stuff or explore.

    So for me, the Galaxy does not last as long as my regular iPhone 6 did...but I didn't USE my iPhone like I do the S7. I can't get a solid day out of my S7, unfortunately. However I'm trying to change my way of thinking and just accept that topping off throughout the day, especially with quick charge, is NOT the end of the world. I have historically been of the opinion that my phone NEEDS to get through a full day without a cord. Motorolas in the android world have come the closest to being able to do that.

    I'm trying to come around...it's not like I don't have access to chargers throughout the day. Car, home, friend's homes, etc.
    I used to be like that... HAVING to get throigh the day without charging up/topping off... I have been a user of all of the platforms but the past 3 itterations habe been Notes... I am not only a power user, but more of a JUNKIE SUPER-USER... This may count as cheating, but rooting/jailbreaking of my devices was the only way that I could get my battery to last me through a full day in the past... I believe those days are gone now though, not only with the Note being locked down (more than likely/most probably) but even with SUPER efficient ROMs and battery efficiency applications (boot managers, etc...) I now am just on my device constantly doing something... "Technicapped" if you will (I think I just coined that puppy right there)... Nonetheless, I have started to keep battery packs with me, and have no problem fast charging to top off or catch a full 2nd charge of the day... For me it is all about the ecosystem/environment, my capabilities with the device, sure a portion of how long it can last (but no longer a deal breaker), the pleasure of using the device, how doea it feel in my hands, and is it special (does it do more for me than anything else out there can)... The Notes (4 & 5) have done this for me, and I REALLY think the Note 7 is going to take it to a whole other level... I think this device is going to champion a lot of crossover consumers (abandoning their typical platforms) and even bring other Android user into the Note-Line for good... This is closer to what the 5 SHOULD have been, and if they (Sammie) add on to this trend (instead of take away, like they did in the 5), more and more users will make the Note their Daily Driver... I think the Note 7 is setting a precedent here for the Note-Line of products, and how Samsung learns/grows from it can really take them the Super-Juggernaut of smartphones once again (especially after the success of the S7/S7E)... 3 flagships in a row is quite the accomplishment... Just need to get the device in our hands now, and see if it can deliver as I EXPECT that it will...
    08-11-2016 06:15 PM
  17. polbit's Avatar
    Note 7 definitely has to last a full 10-12 hours with heavy use. My Note 5 could never come close, and that was a deal breaker.

    As to using the phone for productivity, I routinely annotated PDFs on my Note, and looked/worked on Excel/Word documents. Nothing too heavy of course, but it was a godsend many a time. I also got used to taking notes in meetings on the Note, and can't wait to get that functionality back.
    08-11-2016 07:10 PM
  18. spasell's Avatar
    Note 7 definitely has to last a full 10-12 hours with heavy use. My Note 5 could never come close, and that was a deal breaker.

    As to using the phone for productivity, I routinely annotated PDFs on my Note, and looked/worked on Excel/Word documents. Nothing too heavy of course, but it was a godsend many a time. I also got used to taking notes in meetings on the Note, and can't wait to get that functionality back.
    Taking notes will be a welcome return for me. I bought Surface Book to take notes and that device was a wreck.
    08-11-2016 07:50 PM
  19. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Taking notes will be a welcome return for me. I bought Surface Book to take notes and that device was a wreck.
    The offscreen notes are great for me. I have to jot down a lot of notes waking between meetings etc. I used to always carry a steno pad and pen everywhere with me.

    Now I can just pop put the spen, take notes on the screen and don't have to unlock it or open an app.
    08-12-2016 12:37 AM
  20. anon(9408097)'s Avatar
    I'm in a different boat here. Most of the people are discussing battery lives and OS. But for me, the switch I made from Galaxy S7 to the iPhone 6s plus was solely based on built quality. Now this switch couldve been to an HTC 10 but I really wanted to check out iOS 10.

    I don't keep my phones in cases. And I found a new scratch everyday. On the corners of the sloping glass. On the home button. Oh that home button! Samsung doesn't know how to make home buttons. They're so weak and fragile. I was tired of taking so much care of that phone and still seeing scratches. Samsung phones are too fragile for me to use with peace. I know I'm in a minority here. But built matters a lot to me. And that was the reason I switched from using 4 Samsung flagships in a row to a metal phone. And I will not come back to Samsung unless they make a phone which is as durable as the HTC 10 or the iPhone.

    Dont get me wrong, the phone looks amazing. But it never felt amazing. Just a hot slippery slimy mess of fingerprints.

    Built quality is where I'm at.
    08-12-2016 02:39 AM
  21. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    My phone has not one stratch, so I can't relate there...
    08-12-2016 02:51 AM
  22. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I'm in a different boat here. Most of the people are discussing battery lives and OS. But for me, the switch I made from Galaxy S7 to the iPhone 6s plus was solely based on built quality. Now this switch couldve been to an HTC 10 but I really wanted to check out iOS 10.

    I don't keep my phones in cases. And I found a new scratch everyday. On the corners of the sloping glass. On the home button. Oh that home button! Samsung doesn't know how to make home buttons. They're so weak and fragile. I was tired of taking so much care of that phone and still seeing scratches. Samsung phones are too fragile for me to use with peace. I know I'm in a minority here. But built matters a lot to me. And that was the reason I switched from using 4 Samsung flagships in a row to a metal phone. And I will not come back to Samsung unless they make a phone which is as durable as the HTC 10 or the iPhone.

    Dont get me wrong, the phone looks amazing. But it never felt amazing. Just a hot slippery slimy mess of fingerprints.

    Built quality is where I'm at.
    I don't know about weak and fragile.. I haven't had a case on my Note 5 in months. I did drop it on the concrete driveway. I got a deep scratch in the metal trim around the phone, nothing on the front, back or side of the phone, no glass broken or scratched.

    I'll put a case on a new phone and after a few weeks of getting used to it, I always take the case off. I haven't had a screen protector since my Note 2. I did break that screen once though, I dripped it on the driveway and it hit the driveway on its corner. Same driveway as my Note 5 and same location of the driveway. That was an automatic crack.

    I carry my phones in an empty pocket, glass facing me, sometimes in purse of I don't have a pocket and don't want to carry it. Other than those two issues I haven't had scratches, scuffs, breaks or anything on my Note 1 - Note 5 and all the S phones (minus the S7), except the two incidents I mentioned. I even have a cat that has laid and walked on my phone, to the point she has taken selfies with her feet and still no scratches even. The Note 2 had Gorilla Glass, the Note 5 has Corning Gorilla Glass. I think there is a chance with the current Gorilla Glass, the Note 2 would have likely survived that drop.

    I'm careful with my phones but I don't baby them. I've had damage to spens that I have left out and forgot and damage them, but I wouldn't consider the phones fragile by any means.
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    08-12-2016 03:16 AM
  23. spasell's Avatar
    The offscreen notes are great for me. I have to jot down a lot of notes waking between meetings etc. I used to always carry a steno pad and pen everywhere with me.

    Now I can just pop put the spen, take notes on the screen and don't have to unlock it or open an app.
    So you don't have to open an app to take notes? You mean on the lock screen? And if so you don't need to scroll down for room to write more?
    08-12-2016 05:24 AM
  24. erasat's Avatar
    So you don't have to open an app to take notes? You mean on the lock screen? And if so you don't need to scroll down for room to write more?
    I'd suggest you to take a look at some youtube videos that will show you this and a lot more other hidden and not so hidden features on the Note 5 that will most likely pass to the Note 7, and once the Note 7 is available, you'll begin to see tons of videos for it.

    See at 1:34 minute mark for what you are asking here on this video,

    But for a lot more detailed information subscribe to this guy, he is simply the best when it comes to show features on Samsung phones, see a couple of those for the Note 5.



    This one is a most for an upcoming new Samsung user, take a look at the detailed page that also contains his Youtube Video, Note 5 Review: Top 100 Features - Techisode TV
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    08-12-2016 07:09 AM
  25. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    So you don't have to open an app to take notes? You mean on the lock screen? And if so you don't need to scroll down for room to write more?
    This is just one "page" and when it us full you have to save it and start another. The Note 5 came out with this feature and the Note 7 could added even more to it, not sure. I haven't looked at that feature on the N7.

    There is a setting to be able to do a lock screen memo. You take out your spen, don't have to unlock it wake the screen and it pops up. It is a black screen with white writing.
    08-12-2016 08:04 AM
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