08-13-2016 09:40 PM
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  1. jerrycau123's Avatar
    Apple is so far behind the times! No fast or wireless charging?????..
    Apple's latest release was so small you needed a magnifying glass to see the screen!...I forgot! the phone came with one!
    Thank you Apple for releasing another BORING phone!

    Posted via the Android Central App
    08-12-2016 12:50 AM
  2. thegame161's Avatar
    Apple is so far behind the times! No fast or wireless charging?????..
    Apple's latest release was so small you needed a magnifying glass to see the screen!...I forgot! the phone came with one!
    Thank you Apple for releasing another BORING phone!

    Posted via the Android Central App
    It isn't even out yet.
    08-12-2016 01:57 AM
  3. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Not really. Note 7 is feature packed. The iPhone is...well, a very simple product by comparison .

    Posted via the Android Central App
    Weird he said that considering he has an S7..
    08-12-2016 02:21 AM
  4. Matty's Avatar
    For me, as long as the device can do all my social media, play a few videos and take great pictures. it doesn't really matter about performance. ^_^ They both look fantastic.
    08-12-2016 02:52 AM
  5. mantaka's Avatar
    Do that test underwater
    08-12-2016 05:17 AM
  6. dpham00's Avatar
    I can see my time on this forum will be limited. If you don't have experience with multiple OS's and hardware, then your opinion is myopic and heavily biased.

    By not reading the link I provided, it means you have contempt for facts.

    Yes, I understand this is "Android" central but come on. To be so entrenched in an OS/side as to not evaluate objective points... that's just. Well, I guess I can't say what it is as I'm sure I'll have my post deleted by a mod.

    I have spent years with Window, OSX and even dabbled in Linux my fair share.

    I have spent a ton of time with Android and iOS. I cannot comment on any Microsoft phones.

    My point is this, read because you want to learn something. If you think, that by reading an iPhone review, your world view will be crushed and TEOTWAWKI will rain down on you, I feel truly sorry for you.

    One OS cannot exist without the other. They are what we have now. To have a discontent for one means you take life far too seriously.

    Fanboy-ism, as the kids call it... kool aid flows both ways.
    I have used the 6s Plus and the note 5. Even though similar tests showed the 6s beating the note 5, after using both devices, I can say that for me, the speed in opening or transitioning through apps didn't really bother me much on the note 5. But there were really some issues that I disliked about the iPhone 6s Plus though my admittedly heavy usage. This is a comparison for my note 5 with my iPhone 6s Plus.

    Iphone pro
    [ ] Touch id better than note 5. More accurate and quicker*
    [ ] Feels very fast, faster than the note 5 when working properly.
    [ ] Tapatalk app is more refined
    [ ] New notifications turns on the screen*
    [ ] Shows Bluetooth battery life*
    [ ] More control over how notifications show*
    [ ] Live photos is pretty cool*
    [ ] Battery life especially on more demanding apps is excellent on the 6sp, substantially better than the Note 5.
    [ ] Battery life in very low signal areas is way better on the 6sp, substantially better than the Note 5.


    Iphone con
    [ ] Sometimes it takes a while after reading an email for the count tag to be reduced on the home screen*
    [ ] Swiftkey keyboard cannot be resized,no number row,some security switches back to stock*
    [ ] Gmail cannot be set to auto jump to the older email after deleting current email*
    [ ] Widgets on the home screen not as refined as Android*
    [ ] Less customizations*
    [ ] No folders*
    [ ] Stock email app can only be set to 15 minute fetch at the quickest for Gmail
    [ ] No button to delete email in the in box in the stock app, must long press the archive button spps
    [ ] Kick apps out of memory when running in the background . for example when downloading pictures from amazon photos, it will stop every 60 to 100 pictures or so and I would have to open the app again,youtube uploads stop when app isn't open.
    [ ] Can't set default apps*
    [ ] App update requires wifi*
    [ ] Chrome buggy,crashes frequently*
    [ ] No double click to open camera*
    [ ] Doesn't register nail as a touch,note 5 does.*
    [ ] No 5ghz hotspot*
    [ ] Light touches sometimes do not register on the iPhone,same touch will register on the note 5*
    [ ] Note 5 seems to do better in very low signal areas*
    [ ] Can't show band in the top bar
    [ ] Gpm streaming stops occasionally*
    [ ] Using Swiftkey,sometimes you can't see what you are typing as the keyboard blocks the screen where you are typing*
    [ ] Cannot set the iPhone to switch to vibrate automatically when in a certain area(note 5 can do this with Tasker or similar*
    [ ] If you use a lot of apps then the system would start to get laggy and crash prone . you can force close all apps once in a while to help mitigate this,as well as shut off and re start the iPhone.
    [ ] Also with a lot of apps in memory, background usage for uploading and downloading is severely limited. For example, Amazon photos or youtube can do some uploading in the background when all apps are cleared from memory or when few apps are in memory. But once you have a lot of apps in memory, the apps need to be in the foreground to do uploading.*
    [ ] Both amazon and Google photos has the option to upload only while charging on the note 5,but not on the iPhone.*
    [ ] In low signal areas, usually turning on and off airplane mode would kick it back to usable lte on the note 5. On the iPhone, this didn't kick it back to lte



    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...ck-n5-now.html
    08-12-2016 08:02 AM
  7. Joe J1's Avatar
    Note 7 got crushed. Needs some optimization. My note 5 and s7 edge with note 7 port runs MUCH faster
    08-12-2016 11:36 AM
  8. rushmore's Avatar
    Note 7 got crushed. Needs some optimization. My note 5 and s7 edge with note 7 port runs MUCH faster
    Considering other devices like the Force use the 820 and is fast and your 7E as you attest is fast, would it not seem there is something funky
    about the benchmarks? My guess is yes.
    08-12-2016 12:07 PM
  9. areyes163's Avatar
    Although it got beaten I never put stock in videos like those. First everyone uses their device differently. On day to day usage you would be hard pressed to notice a difference. Also no one uses their device like that constantly clicking on different apps. So take that for what it is.
    08-12-2016 12:12 PM
  10. Joe J1's Avatar
    That speed benchmark isn't a good measure of real world use. Most people don't have multiple large games running in the background. What caught me by surprise is how many apps reloaded on the note 7.
    08-12-2016 02:22 PM
  11. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    That speed benchmark isn't a good measure of real world use. Most people don't have multiple large games running in the background. What caught me by surprise is how many apps reloaded on the note 7.
    That is not by accident

    Posted via the Android Central App
    08-12-2016 03:25 PM
  12. badMojo69's Avatar
    Daaaaaang! 6S spanked dat phat @ss!
    08-12-2016 04:40 PM
  13. Joe the Insider's Avatar
    Fair enough.

    I have owned 3 Android phones (actually still have them all) and 4 iPhones (currently using a 6S Plus.

    Android OEM's have cleaned their acts up, to some extent and Apple has rested on its laurels. This is a subjective view of mine.

    Android itself has also matured a good bit and iOS has as well but still, we all need a little change from time to time

    We all want the best performance because we pay for the best performance.

    In this area, Samsung and Apple both could improve.

    If this Note slows down for me, I'll find a ROM that supports the S Pen and move on with life. I'm running Cyanogen Temasek on a 2 year old Android phone and even it appears faster than the Note 7 and it's definitely faster than my 6S.
    IOS also has barely evolved which is ridiculous, Where at least Android has. I'll take a company who is willing to bring new ideas to the table than someone who sits back and makes the same crap year after year.
    08-12-2016 05:32 PM
  14. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    To be honest, I never really take these tests seriously.

    I do watch them from time to time just to see what's up, and I always come to the same conclusion. Speed tests like these don't tell the real story. You have to use them yourself in the real-world on your own usage pattern to really get the full-picture, since these speed tests are conducted in fixed conditions and may not tell you all you need to know.

    But, enough of that, let's talk about the video.

    The iPhone launching the games much faster is not a surprise. The 6s has an NVMe-based storage controller, which gives it pretty damn good I/O performance. I use an iPad Pro 12.9, which has the same NVMe controller, and it's speedy, especially when combined with Apple's specific iOS optimizations (though iOS 9 isn't brilliant in terms of polish, TBH). The Galaxy Note7 uses a UFS storage controller, though it's unclear right now if they're using the newer one based on Samsung's 3D V-NAND tech. Perhaps the most interesting (and baffling part) is how the Galaxy Note7 manages memory.

    Compared to the S7 edge, which kept nearly every app in the speed test in memory, the Note7 seems to exhibit the same issue that plagued both the Galaxy S6 and OnePlus 3, being that apps tend to be kicked out of memory far too soon. I'm not sure why, but perhaps a software update will be rolled out soon to address this, especially since the Note7 isn't widely available yet. Another interesting thing is that in India (where C4ETech is based), the Note7 won't be officially available over there until September 2nd. Just something to note. It's disappointing to see that, especially since the S7e in the same channel did quite well, but perhaps this will be sorted soon.

    In short, we'll have to wait and see when we get our phones. But I have a feeling that both phones will be pretty quick in real-world use.
    08-13-2016 12:53 AM
  15. FutureMech's Avatar
    S7E has an ok but not perfect memory management, with custom kernels i rarely get any app reloaded, unless i have two heavy games on background.

    Note 7 seems to do even worse, sammy still don't know how to manage ram, maybe they should ask LG.
    08-13-2016 04:14 AM
  16. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    S7E has an ok but not perfect memory management, with custom kernels i rarely get any app reloaded, unless i have two heavy games on background.

    Note 7 seems to do even worse, sammy still don't know how to manage ram, maybe they should ask LG.
    Well, to be honest, LG also has some work to do in that department.
    08-13-2016 10:36 AM
  17. FutureMech's Avatar
    I had G4 and saw G5, they rarely reload any apps unless you run really intensive ram apps, Samsung can't properly manage it, with any phone.
    08-13-2016 12:58 PM
  18. dpham00's Avatar
    I had G4 and saw G5, they rarely reload any apps unless you run really intensive ram apps, Samsung can't properly manage it, with any phone.
    This is Samsung's way of doing things... They designed it this way. If you don't like it, don't buy a Samsung phone.
    08-13-2016 01:55 PM
  19. FutureMech's Avatar
    They need to improve upon it, as it can be annoying to be in middle of game, paused for a bit, come back and it refresh everything, meant nothing saved.

    If you fine with that, then ok, i'm not, it's not the way the phone suppose to work as it can hold much more apps then sammy restrict.
    Same goes for DVFS, S7 series are the worst phones for gaming, they throttle on purpose to save more battery life... rooting the device and using custom kernel can solve it.
    08-13-2016 04:39 PM
  20. Phillip Pugh's Avatar
    Haha what are you like 12 I pay no attention to these damn speed test bring on the n7 I say

    Posted via my note 5 are gs7 edge
    08-13-2016 05:03 PM
  21. skatergirl's Avatar
    System Performance Cont'd and NAND Performance - The Apple iPhone 6s and iPhone 6s Plus Review

    Scroll half way down the page.

    Samsung will always be behind until they are using a better NAND controller. Which is funny since they make some of the fastest SSD's I've ever used.

    They just aren't trying when it comes to their phones.

    Last year Apple's implementation made it's OS twice as fast (see results from above link) as Samsung.

    I am switching to Samsung with the Note 7 but I have a ton of questions for them as a company. They fall short on certain things that they should never fall short on. They design and make their own CPU's and memory. They should equal or beat Apple in all speed tests, real life or synthetic. Instead, they are 50% slower. Absolutely no excuse for this.
    I think this is comparing an apple, pardon the pun, with an orange. That said, my Note 4 is not as snappy as I would like and the 7 could be the same even though the 7 is going to be a great phone.

    But off the subject, the thing Samsung has fallen the most short on is its Gear S watch. Geez, disastrous charging system. I can only charge my watch now with rubber bands. I really need to talk to Samsung about this!
    08-13-2016 05:34 PM
  22. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    They need to improve upon it, as it can be annoying to be in middle of game, paused for a bit, come back and it refresh everything, meant nothing saved.

    If you fine with that, then ok, i'm not, it's not the way the phone suppose to work as it can hold much more apps then sammy restrict.
    Same goes for DVFS, S7 series are the worst phones for gaming, they throttle on purpose to save more battery life... rooting the device and using custom kernel can solve it.
    Right. It's not going to change, ever. This is the way Samsung uses RAM on their devices. As someone else said, you can either live with or not. But it's not changing

    Posted via the Android Central App
    08-13-2016 06:50 PM
  23. donm527's Avatar
    I really don't care about speed tests between iOS and android anymore... it's not like iOS 4 vs gingerbread or something like that where both still had rough edges in sw and hardware specs were all over the place among android phones causing wide performance differences.

    Both platforms run pretty fast and smooth you can only tell the difference by the benchmark numbers. Flagship android phones run close to the same choices in processor and memory and OS. GoIng between android and iOS lately the difference I care about is features between the two.
    08-13-2016 07:19 PM
  24. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    If you can, check out the S7 edge speedtests on the same channel.

    That's what I find weird, because both seem to manage memory in a drastically different manner. But of course, we'll know for sure when we receive our phones and use them ourselves.

    I really don't care about speed tests between iOS and android anymore... it's not like iOS 4 vs gingerbread or something like that where both still had rough edges in sw and hardware specs were all over the place among android phones causing wide performance differences.

    Both platforms run pretty fast and smooth you can only tell the difference by the benchmark numbers. Flagship android phones run close to the same choices in processor and memory and OS. GoIng between android and iOS lately the difference I care about is features between the two.
    Same. Phones are pretty fast nowadays, especially for daily use. I don't think most users will see much of a difference unless they do the same test and even then, tests like these are done in fixed conditions with a fixed selection of apps, so it doesn't tell you everything you need to know. The real way to find out is to use it yourself.
    08-13-2016 09:40 PM
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