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  1. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    My Note 5 gets in the neighborhood of 4 - 4.5 hours. I could see the Note 7 getting the same, although I hope it does better.
    08-14-2016 03:56 PM
  2. BOSSY TEXAS CHICK's Avatar
    Just wait till it's in everyone's hands, and then wait another week or 2 for folks to use it like they NORMALLY would - not like they do in the first day or 2. Seriously all, don't listen to any battery life reports of someone's first day of use. Also, as all the others have said, battery life will likely be somewhat different for everyone .
    Completely agree... They are probably factoring in "first day use" including turning it on from a "boxed state" and then using it for that same day. NOTHING runs down a battery worse than when you turn a phone on and allow Google to update EVERYTHING for the 1st time...

    BTC
    08-14-2016 05:36 PM
  3. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Battery life depends on multiple factors. These include efficiency of the individual hardware components, how the software manages power, battery capacity and individual usage pattern. The last one is arguably one of the more important ones especially since no 2 people use their phones in exactly the same way. Take that into consideration the next time someone posts their battery life on a thread.

    Another thing to note. Try not to base battery life entirely on SOT numbers. SOT is directly correlated to usage pattern. In order to get a better picture, compare SOT numbers to the overall uptime of the device. 4 hours of SOT might not sound that impressive but 4 hours of SOT with around 16-17 hours of total uptime is actually not bad.

    Battery life will be different for every user even with the same device because we all use our phones differently. As such, the next time we post anything about our battery life, don't forget to not only post SOT times, but also device uptime, battery chart and usage stats and give an overall rough summary of your usage pattern.
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    08-15-2016 12:03 AM
  4. RadeonHD4250's Avatar
    I agree wholeheartedly with the above post. I used to be an "SoT fanatic" always worrying about how much I was getting per charge until I realized, does it really matter?

    My phone has been running for 57 hours on one charge. I just went a whole weekend on ONE charge. 3 hours of screen on with 57 hours uptime. I also got about 2 hours of music in there too for 5 hours of usage (the metric that iOS uses) in total.

    At this rate I'll hit 4 hours of SoT with 60+ hours of Uptime. What I noticed is if you're glued to your phone during long sessions you get more SoT but less standby versus someone who's just using the phone periodicially; you'll get more Uptime that way, but probably less SoT.

    I dally I'd rather take 4 hour SoT with 60+ hours Uptime versus 7 hour SoT with 12 hours Uptime. But that just me.

    And this is with a Note 4 by the way. A phone 2 generations old.



    Can't wait to see how the Note 7 performs in Uptime.

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    08-15-2016 01:11 AM
  5. Nanope's Avatar
    Yep. People love to exaggerate lol.
    I linked a full review in another thread. I'm sure after seeing how bad the battery was ppl don't want to comment on it

    ogl > cal
    08-15-2016 01:12 AM
  6. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    I agree wholeheartedly with the above post. I used to be an "SoT fanatic" always worrying about how much I was getting per charge until I realized, does it really matter?

    My phone has been running for 57 hours on one charge. I just went a whole weekend on ONE charge. 3 hours of screen on with 57 hours uptime. I also got about 2 hours of music in there too for 5 hours of usage (the metric that iOS uses) in total.

    At this rate I'll hit 4 hours of SoT with 60+ hours of Uptime. What I noticed is if you're glued to your phone during long sessions you get more SoT but less standby versus someone who's just using the phone periodicially; you'll get more Uptime that way, but probably less SoT.

    I dally I'd rather take 4 hour SoT with 60+ hours Uptime versus 7 hour SoT with 12 hours Uptime. But that just me.

    And this is with a Note 4 by the way. A phone 2 generations old.



    Can't wait to see how the Note 7 performs in Uptime.

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    The SoT matters to me because I go on short road trips and my Note 5 has to be shot off after a while because Google Maps runs it out of juice fast and I need to save some power for the trip back. On top of that, the more I have to charge my phone, the faster my battery will permanently wear down.
    08-15-2016 02:00 AM
  7. LeoRex's Avatar
    SOT is directly correlated to usage pattern. In order to get a better picture, compare SOT numbers to the overall uptime of the device. 4 hours of SOT might not sound that impressive but 4 hours of SOT with around 16-17 hours of total uptime is actually not bad.
    This.... The amount of screen time, alone, is a fairly misleading statistic as it doesn't provide context. For instance, what would you say if I told you that my 6P could get, on average, about 3:30 of SOT on a full charge? Probably would get a "Meh..."

    But what if I also mentioned that the 3:30 came over the course of about 40 hours between stints on the charger? That changes the context of that SOT time, wouldn't you say?
    08-15-2016 11:25 AM
  8. Nanope's Avatar
    This.... The amount of screen time, alone, is a fairly misleading statistic as it doesn't provide context. For instance, what would you say if I told you that my 6P could get, on average, about 3:30 of SOT on a full charge? Probably would get a "Meh..."

    But what if I also mentioned that the 3:30 came over the course of about 40 hours between stints on the charger? That changes the context of that SOT time, wouldn't you say?
    I need to know what some of you ppl do to your phones. You get 40 hours of use plus 3 sot. Some guy told me he gets 48 hours of sot. Totally believable.

    ogl > cal
    08-15-2016 11:30 AM
  9. LeoRex's Avatar
    I dally I'd rather take 4 hour SoT with 60+ hours Uptime versus 7 hour SoT with 12 hours Uptime. But that just me
    Well, you can have both.... one of the biggest factors in how much screen time you have available is background idle load, so the longer you go between charges, the less available power you have due to the constant drain. In your example, the same phone could probably give you both scenarios.
    08-15-2016 11:31 AM
  10. bunnybunny123's Avatar
    I wish this phone could be given freely.

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    08-15-2016 11:37 AM
  11. rushmore's Avatar
    How can there be a SOT debate for a device with one sample that has yet to specify all conditions of use?

    The battery is 2.8% smaller, than the 7E and the display is about 7% bigger (with similar scaled power consumption per Display Mate).

    Looking at past user posts and reviews, 7E's SOT is about 5.5 hours of average use.

    Battery size adjustment (2.8% smaller) = .972 * 5.5 = 5.346 hrs

    Display size adjustment (7% bigger) = .07 * 5.346 = .374 hrs

    Percent battery weight that display typically uses (40%) = .4 * .374 = .15

    Final result 5.346 - .15 = 5.2 hours

    This approach at a minimum seems more closer to maybe correct than 4 hours from one sample- unless the Iris scanner sensors, or something else is more of a power hog.
    08-15-2016 12:07 PM
  12. LeoRex's Avatar
    I need to know what some of you ppl do to your phones. You get 40 hours of use plus 3 sot. Some guy told me he gets 48 hours of sot. Totally believable.
    Nothing special. I am not playing any games as far as toggling radios, background task checkers, etc... My general, day to day usage is fairly light and medium duty tasks. I mean, if I am out with my kids trying to catch some Evees, well, that'll slaughter my battery in frighteningly short amount of time. But in general, I chalk it up to a couple of simple factors... starting with T-Mobile having excellent network coverage in my area, so I am rarely sitting in a battery-draining signal desert. Combine that with a few other factors (running one of the N preview builds, no rogue apps,etc.), my background load is actually really low... 0.5%/h or less... most of the time, so my phone isn't using much power when I'm not using it.
    08-15-2016 02:04 PM
  13. Blacklac's Avatar
    It's too bad we don't have another phone almost exactly like the N7 but with slightly varying battery size, to base this off.

    Oh wait, we have the Galaxy S7 & 7E. Lol

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    08-15-2016 02:12 PM
  14. Stealthieone's Avatar
    is there a proper way to charge the phone or any phone... like let it completely drain? or does it matter? basically whats the best way to maximize battery health?

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    08-15-2016 02:16 PM
  15. Premium1's Avatar
    I linked a full review in another thread. I'm sure after seeing how bad the battery was ppl don't want to comment on it

    ogl > cal
    Where is this full review you speak of? I would love to check it out. And once again usage varies, but most likely you are exaggerating about battery
    08-15-2016 03:24 PM
  16. jimd1050's Avatar
    No, because:

    1). If never trust the opinion of a group of people who would never use a phone like I would

    2). I'm not some consumer-ocd driven experience monkey that arbitrarily decides that what everyone else deems as acceptable is right for me

    3). Maybe there are use cases for people who are active and driving or walking around all day...but I'm an exec level employee who works from home 80% of the time and the other 20% I'm travelling. Even in airports. There are wireless charging stations everywhere....and I'm never too far from a place that I can top off my phone.

    4). When I go on vacation...my phone is in airplane mode 99% of the time (or its not a vacation) and you quickly realize that without connectivity...or looking at it every 5 seconds like a spastic compulsive that working has made me into...my phones have lasted days on a single charge.

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    4 hours sot??-ford_thumbsup.jpg

    Sorry for the "Ford" - it was the biggest "Thumbs-up" I could find! Well put SlackerJack!
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    08-15-2016 03:29 PM
  17. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    is there a proper way to charge the phone or any phone... like let it completely drain? or does it matter? basically whats the best way to maximize battery health?

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    Generally speaking, it's best to refrain from using fast-charging often as it causes the device to heat up a little more, which isn't good for long-term battery health.

    Also, it's recommended to not have your battery go down to a very low level, like below 20%, as that is apparently bad for the cells.
    08-15-2016 08:22 PM
  18. Stealthieone's Avatar
    Generally speaking, it's best to refrain from using fast-charging often as it causes the device to heat up a little more, which isn't good for long-term battery health.

    Also, it's recommended to not have your battery go down to a very low level, like below 20%, as that is apparently bad for the cells.
    so fast charging is something that can be turned on and off?

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    08-15-2016 09:50 PM
  19. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    so fast charging is something that can be turned on and off?

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    On recent Samsungs, there should be an option to turn fast charging on and off.

    http://www.androidcentral.com/samsun...ng-if-you-want

    On most phones, no. It depends on whether the wallwart it is connected to supports fast charging or not.
    08-15-2016 09:59 PM
  20. Almeuit's Avatar
    SoT as a measurement for battery by itself is honestly worthless.
    08-15-2016 10:02 PM
  21. dsignori's Avatar
    Generally speaking, it's best to refrain from using fast-charging often as it causes the device to heat up a little more, which isn't good for long-term battery health.
    Though I have read this too, I have not seen this in practice. I use nothing but fast-charging on my Note 5, and I haven't noticed any ill effects. It's only been a year, so perhaps another year in could show less battery life as a result, perhaps. So far, it is not noticeable for me though.

    I would NOT recommend turning fast charging off at this point...
    08-15-2016 10:06 PM
  22. LeoRex's Avatar
    Yeah, I've had far charging tech on the last few phones I've owned, QC on my Nexus 6 and USB-C PD on my 6P and both, after a year (well, not quite a year on the 6P yet) and I didn't see any degradation. But they never got hot that I've noticed... Which is the real issue.
    08-15-2016 10:19 PM
  23. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Though I have read this too, I have not seen this in practice. I use nothing but fast-charging on my Note 5, and I haven't noticed any ill effects. It's only been a year, so perhaps another year in could show less battery life as a result, perhaps. So far, it is not noticeable for me though.

    I would NOT recommend turning fast charging off at this point...
    Yeah. The heat is the main issue, which most phones should be able to adjust their charging power in accordance to the current temperature.
    08-15-2016 11:47 PM
  24. furby23's Avatar
    I have seen 5 reviews that cover the battery. They range between 4 hours to 5.5 hours SOT.
    3 of them show the overall usage as well as SOT.
    all 5 were exynos.
    they averaged 18-24 hours.
    60-100% brightness.
    cellular and wifi.
    There is a further example from reddit whereby a megapost showed an exynos on wifi only with moderate usage of a plethora of apps, 6 hours, 60% brightness.

    The reviews are out there, its a highly subjective matter but there is a general line like most devices. i mean compare it to the s7edge, 4-5.5 is about right depending on usage and then the wifi only got 6 hours.

    again, nothing definitive until i use it myself but in my mind i do believe it getting me 4.5-5 on exynos over a day. If these figures are generally correct then i have a feeling snapdragon devices may suffer a little until samsung release an update.

    just my opinion, like you all have yours
    08-16-2016 06:14 AM
  25. anon(5630457)'s Avatar
    There have been a few videos with reviews out already. Seems like 4 hours is what they are getting at best. I have to say if that's it I would have to return mine. What do you guys think

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    That's about all I got on my S7 edge. I don't know why people expect more than that on a phone with a 3500 mAh battery.
    08-16-2016 06:25 AM
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