1. skatergirl's Avatar
    Ok, this post might be for a different forum, but I was wondering if anyone knew at what stage the bloat is added to our new phones?

    Say for instance our new Notes. Does Samsung add Verizon's bloat to the phone before shipping them to Verizon, or does Verizon get the phones from Samsung, add the bloat and then ship them off.

    Not really an important question but I was just curious how this process worked.
    08-14-2016 09:50 AM
  2. Stalonage's Avatar
    Ok, this post might be for a different forum, but I was wondering if anyone knew at what stage the bloat is added to our new phones?

    Say for instance our new Notes. Does Samsung add Verizon's bloat to the phone before shipping them to Verizon, or does Verizon get the phones from Samsung, add the bloat and then ship them off.

    Not really an important question but I was just curious how this process worked.
    I believe Verizon adds it to the phones..

    Posted via the Android Central App
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    08-14-2016 10:06 AM
  3. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    I believe Sammie adds it. They're sent stuff from each carrier and it's added. Then the phone is packaged. I just can't see the box being reopened and repackaged. That's the my guess.
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    08-14-2016 10:35 AM
  4. dpham00's Avatar
    Verizon requests Samsung to add in Verizon additions. Samsung adds it and sends it to Verizon for approval. After it is approved then Samsung will install it on the phone, or provide it as an OTA
    skatergirl and Ry like this.
    08-14-2016 12:58 PM
  5. skatergirl's Avatar
    Verizon requests Samsung to add in Verizon additions. Samsung adds it and sends it to Verizon for approval. After it is approved then Samsung will install it on the phone, or provide it as an OTA
    Cool, thanks. I always wondered about this especially with these pre orders and wondering who was finalizing the software.
    08-14-2016 02:04 PM
  6. Dngrsone's Avatar
    There are several levels.

    Google includes it's favorite apps (usually preceded by "Google") when it publishes the OS.

    Then the manufacturer (say, Samsung) makes a few substitutions and adds their favorites (Kindle for Samsung, Touchwiz).

    Then your provider will make a few more substitutions and add their favorites...
    08-14-2016 02:11 PM
  7. dpham00's Avatar
    There are several levels.

    Google includes it's favorite apps (usually preceded by "Google") when it publishes the OS.

    Then the manufacturer (say, Samsung) makes a few substitutions and adds their favorites (Kindle for Samsung, Touchwiz).

    Then your provider will make a few more substitutions and add their favorites...
    Google publishes the os as Android open source project. That is base Android.

    Google then adds more apps in what they consider to be ideal. Usually you will see Google phones with this.

    Samsung adds their stuff on top of Google additions

    Carriers will make stuff additions on top of this
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    08-14-2016 02:32 PM
  8. bhatech's Avatar
    Verizon or carriers are no good in this, they say how they want to spoil the phone and Samsung bends over back, makes any software, hardware changes carriers want, carriers test and approve, Samsung then ships. Everything is done by Samsung on carriers behalf.
    skatergirl likes this.
    08-14-2016 02:34 PM
  9. Almeuit's Avatar
    Verizon requests Samsung to add in Verizon additions. Samsung adds it and sends it to Verizon for approval. After it is approved then Samsung will install it on the phone, or provide it as an OTA
    This.
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    08-14-2016 02:41 PM
  10. dpham00's Avatar
    Verizon or carriers are no good in this, they say how they want to spoil the phone and Samsung bends over back, makes any software, hardware changes carriers want, carriers test and approve, Samsung then ships. Everything is done by Samsung on carriers behalf.
    If you are a technically inclined then just buy the Samsung unlocked usa version. Which doesn't have any Carrier additions like apps, and certain features like Verizon wfc.

    Just keep in mind that the Verizon s7 got security updates much quicker, and the Carrier doesn't fully support these models (they can't be warranteed through the carrier, and the Carrier would provide limited support in case of signal problems)

    But it is an option for those who want carrier free models.
    08-14-2016 03:03 PM
  11. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    I'm fine with a carrier version tbqh.
    08-14-2016 03:13 PM
  12. dpham00's Avatar
    I'm fine with a carrier version tbqh.
    Or just use package disabler pro to disable packages you don't want.
    skatergirl likes this.
    08-14-2016 03:15 PM
  13. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    Or just use package disabler pro to disable packages you don't want.
    Never used it. Does disabling this crap save battery or space? Because if not...lol
    08-14-2016 03:18 PM
  14. dpham00's Avatar
    Never used it. Does disabling this crap save battery or space? Because if not...lol
    It could save battery, if the package that you are disabling is running.
    08-14-2016 04:47 PM
  15. PlaybookFanatic's Avatar
    It could save battery, if the package that you are disabling is running.
    I'll look to see if it's worth it when I get the phone. Sprint's bloatware has never bothered me. Guess it's because I can delete so much of it.
    08-14-2016 04:50 PM
  16. Android Optimizer's Avatar
    Say for instance our new Notes. Does Samsung add Verizon's bloat to the phone before shipping them to Verizon, or does Verizon get the phones from Samsung, add the bloat and then ship them off.

    Not really an important question but I was just curious how this process worked.
    Its a mix. Like computers phones are flashed with a pre-created image at the factory. Usually the manufacturers only put their own bloatware (Samsung software) on the initial image along with any required software (Goggle has certain software they require for manufacturers to install on devices in order for that device to be a certified Google device/ OS). The Verizon (and other carrier's) software is usually installed from the SIM card when you insert it and activate your phone. Third you have software that installs software when your system "updates" (apps like DT Ignite do this).

    On the subject of bloatware here is an article that was done about bloatware (on the s7s), and what you may want to remove and keep:
    http://www.tomsguide.com/us/samsung-...ew-3456-2.html
    08-14-2016 09:41 PM
  17. dpham00's Avatar
    Its a mix. Like computers phones are flashed with a pre-created image at the factory. Usually the manufacturers only put their own bloatware (Samsung software) on the initial image along with any required software (Goggle has certain software they require for manufacturers to install on devices in order for that device to be a certified Google device/ OS). The Verizon (and other carrier's) software is usually installed from the SIM card when you insert it and activate your phone. Third you have software that installs software when your system "updates" (apps like DT Ignite do this).

    On the subject of bloatware here is an article that was done about bloatware (on the s7s), and what you may want to remove and keep:
    http://www.tomsguide.com/us/samsung-...ew-3456-2.html
    Where are you getting this information for the Verizon variant? The main Verizon additions ARE NOT installed from the sim card. You will still see the additions even if you remove the SIM and activate wifi only.
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    08-14-2016 10:47 PM
  18. Ry's Avatar
    Its a mix. Like computers phones are flashed with a pre-created image at the factory. Usually the manufacturers only put their own bloatware (Samsung software) on the initial image along with any required software (Goggle has certain software they require for manufacturers to install on devices in order for that device to be a certified Google device/ OS). The Verizon (and other carrier's) software is usually installed from the SIM card when you insert it and activate your phone. Third you have software that installs software when your system "updates" (apps like DT Ignite do this).

    On the subject of bloatware here is an article that was done about bloatware (on the s7s), and what you may want to remove and keep:
    http://www.tomsguide.com/us/samsung-...ew-3456-2.html
    This is possible, not from a SIM, but from a "carrier" partition.

    Carrier branded phones aren't really doing this at the moment. The carrier bloat is already on the ROM and the ones that can only be disabled (not uninstalled) are in system.

    Posted via the Android Central App on the Moto X Pure Edition
    08-15-2016 12:27 AM

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