09-20-2016 10:19 PM
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  1. donm527's Avatar
    With the curved glass and "proud" design of the phone... Gain some lose some... You loose all the advantage of GG5 over 4... Except maybe think it that lucky cause it would probably be weaker if it were GG4.

    I'm not worried about scratches. Looking at my old phones in my desk... I1. I4s, etc...I've never really scratched a screen in 10 years. Never cracked one... Except my daughter cracked my LG G2 first month I loaned it to her lol. That's what I don't want in a $900 phone to be unlucky and then try to live with and see a cracked phone for next couple of years.
    08-28-2016 09:47 AM
  2. donm527's Avatar
    At the 3 minutes mark mentioning friends with Note 7... "cracked while in his pocket."
    And pic again shows... cracked at the corner/curve.

    Man I am dying to pull the trigger on getting one but the sensible side of me is wanting to wait and see more posts/reports.


    08-29-2016 09:28 PM
  3. donm527's Avatar


    Trying to read as many reviews on the N7 as well as stuff like cases and protectors... I really am surprised by the number of videos that reviewers mentioning cracked screens.
    08-30-2016 04:38 AM
  4. tinybfk's Avatar
    The phone is a big seller for Samsung so there are a ton of people out there with them. People are more willing to voice their opinion when they have, or someone they know has, a bad experience. I've had mine since launch. No screen protector and I've kept it in a slim case or no case. No problems so far. Not even scratches. I bought the Samsung Protection Plus for peace of mind. Not because of this specific phone but just because it's something I've done with all of my phone's. New flagship smartphones are expensive as heck so a little insurance can save you in the end.
    Anyways, I view this as being similar to the whole 'bend gate' thing with the iPhone 6 plus. I had one on one of my lines from launch until a week ago and had it on me every day, never had it bend. It was sat on a few times, on accident of course, and kept in a tighter front pocket at times that put a decent amount of pressure on it when sitting but it never bent. Not even a little bit and I'm 365 pounds so when I accidently sat on it a few times it surely should have taken the shape of my butt according to a bunch of people lol. I think a lot of it with the cracking screens could be luck of the draw but it's a small amount of people it seems to be happening to, and the majority it has happened to seem to have dropped their phone which is a gamble with any phone. Even with my iPhone 6 plus I dropped it several times in the thin leather Apple case on concrete/asphalt and was lucky enough to pick it up and have it still be in one piece yet my brother dropped his in a much thicker more protective case from a few feet and cracked his screen.
    I can tell you that so far I am really enjoying the Note 7. More so than my GS7E and iPhone 6 plus. I haven't scratched or broken it yet and don't plan to but crap happens. I got the insurance for when that crap happens. If nothing else I will file a claim in 2 years so I can pass down or sell a refurbished/new one that will have a new battery and be good to go for a few more years.


    Almost forgot. My Note 7 fell off my gun safe. Close to a 6 foot fall with a thinner case on to laminate flooring and came out unscathed. It landed on the corner then bounced and landed face down. I had a flash of reading horror stories thinking it for sure would be cracked. Picked it up and looked it over. Not a scratch.
    08-30-2016 05:56 AM
  5. donm527#IM's Avatar
    I also believe as you mention that in many cases that no matter how strong a device just can be the unlucky dude where more damage might happen then the next guy. And I personally don't believe in putting my phone in my back pocket especially and didn't think much of bendgate since you really had to try and bend the phone to warp it. But it did happen enough where Apply felt enough that the phone needed to be more robust for longevity that they did make a change in the S models and in this article says the frame was almost 3x stronger to bending than original.

    iPhone 6S won't bend like the iPhone 6 - Tech Insider

    That change and change in board design said to be reasons why the S phones are NOT experiencing the new issue of "touch disease"

    An internal defect is causing tons of iPhone 6 and 6 Plus to break

    So I think nothing wrong with looking into this issue of the GG5... many may not experience issues now... but if there is a noticeable amount of people reporting scratches and cracks early... it gets the attention of Samsung to look at and if they can see something make any adjustments needed during production. Many times little changes are made that most people don't even hear about during the start of any new production run. It's only been a week so nothing wrong with seeing these posts and see whether over a month... longer... if this really is an issue. I'd definitely like to know while I am still in "shopping" mode for my next phone.

    The cracking issue concerns me over the scratching issue. I am more concerned that over the couple of years I will probably have the phone I don't want an issue where the glass really is weak and over time and regular use and pressure to the screen that it cracks easier over time.

    At almost $900 retail, I can't afford to get a phone every year and will need this phone to be able to last at least a couple of years and should expect it at this price.
    08-30-2016 07:16 AM
  6. tinybfk's Avatar
    I also believe as you mention that in many cases that no matter how strong a device just can be the unlucky dude where more damage might happen then the next guy. And I personally don't believe in putting my phone in my back pocket especially and didn't think much of bendgate since you really had to try and bend the phone to warp it. But it did happen enough where Apply felt enough that the phone needed to be more robust for longevity that they did make a change in the S models and in this article says the frame was almost 3x stronger to bending than original.

    iPhone 6S won't bend like the iPhone 6 - Tech Insider

    That change and change in board design said to be reasons why the S phones are experiencing the new issue of "touch disease"

    iPhone 6S won't bend like the iPhone 6 - Tech Insider

    So I think nothing wrong with looking into this issue of the GG5... many may not experience issues now... but if there is a noticeable amount of people reporting scratches and cracks early... it gets the attention of Samsung to look at and if they can see something make any adjustments needed during production. Many times little changes are made that most people don't even hear about during the start of any new production run. It's only been a week so nothing wrong with seeing these posts and see whether over a month... longer... if this really is an issue. I'd definitely like to know while I am still in "shopping" mode for my next phone.

    An internal defect is causing tons of iPhone 6 and 6 Plus to break
    The only thing that made me think of 'bend gate' was that after the original bend gate video was released everyone was looking for the problem and some of the people were even saying it bent from just being in their front pocket. Hell I remember when the video originally came out looking at my phone almost everyday at first to see if it was bent lol. Just like the scratch issue now with the Note 7, the first week I had this thing under a microscope after seeing the scratch that video, not literally under a microscope but looking hard for those light scratches. The problems are there with any phone it's just a matter of how hard we look for them.
    I'm in no way saying this isn't a real issue though. I believe it probably does scratch easier because they probably had to soften the glass to make it more 'durable'. I am also pretty sure that the curves create a weak spot in the glass plus even with a case your edges are usually exposed. I do hope Corning and Samsung improve the formula and make it better but the reality is it probably won't happen until the next generation of GG. Apple didn't really fix the bend gate problem in the 6. They just improved the next iphone a year later. The original 6 that is still sold received no improvements that I know of, although I haven't researched it.
    08-30-2016 07:50 AM
  7. donm527#IM's Avatar
    Your right that if any major change needed, we'd probably wouldnt see it changed for a year. But structurally I think the phone is ok... from what I read the aluminum structure has gotten very positive comments as being pretty rigid.

    so it's the glass.

    I'm just hoping this is not a real issue and do not see more reports of this as more weeks go by. If is then can only hope that while I still haven't bought yet that if its a glass issue... maybe as you said from the way they heat/shape the glass or some process... they can make a quick adjustment during manufactuing and resolve it before I get one If anything it has probably gotten Samsungs attention to look at the glass process right now just to make sure.

    But I am really wanting to pull the trigger on a Note 7 within the next 30 days. Trying to wait and see as well as see what the iPhone 7 is going to be about.
    08-30-2016 08:31 AM
  8. tinybfk's Avatar
    Your right that if any major change needed, we'd probably wouldnt see it changed for a year. But structurally I think the phone is ok... from what I read the aluminum structure has gotten very positive comments as being pretty rigid.

    so it's the glass.

    I'm just hoping this is not a real issue and do not see more reports of this as more weeks go by. If is then can only hope that while I still haven't bought yet that if its a glass issue... maybe as you said from the way they heat/shape the glass or some process... they can make a quick adjustment during manufactuing and resolve it before I get one If anything it has probably gotten Samsungs attention to look at the glass process right now just to make sure.

    But I am really wanting to pull the trigger on a Note 7 within the next 30 days. Trying to wait and see as well as see what the iPhone 7 is going to be about.
    I agree this phone is definitely solid structure wise, which is nice. The glass is definitely it's Achilles heel. I'm curious about the iPhone 7 also. If most of the rumors are true it sounds like it won't be much of an upgrade from the 6s/plus which would be a bummer. No headphone jack would be a big downside for me. I don't use headphones often but when I do it's usually for random long phone calls where my BT headphones aren't with me. I have corded headphones stashed in my house and both of our vehicles plus a set in my work shirt usually. Not much longer until we find out for sure though. I get excited with new phones since it Push's other manufacturers to up their game too.
    08-30-2016 08:46 AM
  9. mru007's Avatar
    It's really awful that the no. of users experiencing these issues with Note 7 glass panel are increasing day by day.
    There is definitely something wrong in the manufacturing process used for the first lot (at least some) of these models, like maybe, the percentage of the materials in the glass or some other technical shortcoming.
    I have written to Samsung CEO office (they will get in touch with Corning too) today itself about this issue in detail & let's hope that this will be fixed in the near future (in the next lot of devices).
    They should definitely give a free replacement of Note 7 to the affected users, once the issue is fixed
    I was also thinking of upgrading to Note 7 right away but for now, I will stay with my beloved Note 4 & see how this goes down the line.
    08-30-2016 09:07 AM
  10. donm527#IM's Avatar
    Wow what timing... my boss who got his Note 7 not even two weeks old... has case on his... just found out he dropped

    ( edit: more detail he told me that it was pushed off his desk in his kitchen onto the tile floor at 3 1/2 feet. But he didn't emphasize that it had a lot of power behind it when it slid off the desk. Said it hit pretty flat on the tile )

    his phone at home and cracked his screen. Again at the corner. About 3 foot drop onto his kitchen tile but still you'd hope it have a better chance of survival... Corning BRAGS drop tested at 1.5 meters and people are posting drops at 3 feet?!!

    Man I really want one... but I know my buddy and he's always careful and stupid dumb luck drop... at 3 feet cracked!... I really have to rethink this even if I can get one for $600. For hi no biggie because he's also the CIO lol.
    08-30-2016 01:02 PM
  11. dcooper830's Avatar
    Well... hopefully, since I have an Otterbox commuter and tempered glass screen protector on mine, I won't experience any damage.

    Because I drop my phones accidentally about once every 2 months or so...
    08-30-2016 01:30 PM
  12. wirelessgal's Avatar
    I returned my Note 7 for other reasons, but after reading this thread, I'm glad I did. I'm sure Samsung will address this issue if there are more complaints. For now, I'm happy with my Note 5 and S7 Edge. I have insurance on both. The Note 7 is a great phone and if you really want the phone, I highly recommend you buy insurance.
    08-30-2016 01:33 PM
  13. Christopher Gilliam's Avatar
    I really feel that there is something going on with the glass around the S-pen area or bottom of the screen area I've been looking around and that's were the vast majority of the cracks are happening .. definitely need a case that's offers extra cushion/protection around those Conner
    08-30-2016 01:47 PM
  14. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I have no idea what they are saying lol.... and they take an axe to the phone near the end and just multilate it ... But check out the vid at 5:30 mark where they do a drop test at pocket height... 3ft? Again, at the corner/edges
    imo this phone needs a case with raised bezels to give the sides and corners more protection.

    They are saying with a screen that has a corner, above the bezel, that is going to be a weak spot.
    08-30-2016 01:51 PM
  15. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    They are saying with a screen that has a corner, above the bezel, that is going to be a weak spot.
    Oh.. ETA the video wasn't showing up for me when I posted and quoted.
    08-30-2016 01:53 PM
  16. donm527#IM's Avatar
    Here is a pic of my coworkers Note 7 just mentioned. He had his phone in a Caseology Envoy Series case. 3 Feet!! Not 1.5 meters like Corning says and tries to emphasize in their videos of the girl dropping the phone at 1.5 doing a selfie into concrete.

    I have definitely put my plan to buy on hold cause and see over time if more reports start coming up of cracks under short drops. Right now my opinion is the glass is way too weak at the curves



    Wow what timing... my boss who got his Note 7 not even two weeks old... has case on his... just found out he dropped his phone at home and cracked his screen. Again at the corner. About 3 foot drop onto his kitchen tile but still you'd hope it have a better chance of survival... Corning BRAGS drop tested at 1.5 meters and people are posting drops at 3 feet?!!

    Man I really want one... but I know my buddy and he's always careful and stupid dumb luck drop... at 3 feet cracked!... I really have to rethink this even if I can get one for $600. For hi no biggie because he's also the CIO lol.
    08-30-2016 02:06 PM
  17. donm527's Avatar
    Posted this on another thread... but my coworker just showed me his Note 7... less than two weeks old. Dropped on his kitchen tile at 3 feet and using a Caseology case. Corning press release and video brag how it's tested at 1.5 meters and posts and youtube videos showing people getting cracked screen at 3ft. I'm convinced seeing my buddies phone that the screens too weak at the curves My buddy had me wanting to get a Note 7 ASAP after he got his but the urge has ebbed and going to play a wait and see game.

    08-30-2016 02:30 PM
  18. jamesrick80's Avatar
    Posted this on another thread... but my coworker just showed me his Note 7... less than two weeks old. Dropped on his kitchen tile at 3 feet and using a Caseology case. Corning press release and video brag how it's tested at 1.5 meters and posts and youtube videos showing people getting cracked screen at 3ft. I'm convinced seeing my buddies phone that the screens too weak at the curves My buddy had me wanting to get a Note 7 ASAP after he got his but the urge has ebbed and going to play a wait and see game.

    http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psapqeud4n.jpg
    Hmm the s6 edge Plus glass curve Screen was much stronger...i dropped that phone tons of times without any cracks or damage...i will be more careful with my note 7
    08-30-2016 02:53 PM
  19. jamesrick80's Avatar
    I blame tech reviewers who went on the "doesn't have a premium feel" rant.
    I do think the LGV10 is the best of both worlds...premium and practical and that's why I still have it. It's just too bad the screen is so freakin dim.
    The lgv10 build quality is terrible..i have one on my other line where the back cover is peeling off and the front glass cracked after a less than 2 feet drop on some rocks within 2 weeks of use.....
    08-30-2016 02:57 PM
  20. LeoRex's Avatar
    With glass.. there is shock and there is impact. Now.. shock... like whacking the (non-glass) body of a phone against a table... that can cause the glass's internal structure to fail. GG attempts to mitigate this by a doping process when they are making the glass. The impurities sort of try to fill in the gaps and keep an internal stress from creating a fissure, which can/will expand rapidly into a crack

    But an impact is different. If you whack the glass on, say, pavement, and the glass takes a direct impact by some little chunk of hard as hell material. the GG-ishness... well, is like spitting on forest fire at that point.

    And, because it's sexy, the Note 7 sticks that glass out like a beauty pageant contestant. So unless it is protected, near any type of drop is going to result in a direct impact on the glass body.

    Now, that isn't to say it will explode every time. Glass is a fickly beast and very hard to predict how it reacts. Deep down in the structure of everyone here's phone, there are flaws... you can't see them, but they're there. You might have dropped your phone and returned unscathed, but if you put enough stress at the right angle on one of those flaws... poof.... bye bye screen. Now, I don't know what Corning's QA methods are, but I doubt they examine every square inch of the glass at an atomic level to look for even the tiniest of structural flaws. That sort of treatment might be hellishly expensive and most likely reserved for the things like windows on the ISS.

    So we're left with device that is clad in a material that is a cliche for 'not durable'.
    08-30-2016 03:00 PM
  21. dpham00's Avatar
    Posted this on another thread... but my coworker just showed me his Note 7... less than two weeks old. Dropped on his kitchen tile at 3 feet and using a Caseology case. Corning press release and video brag how it's tested at 1.5 meters and posts and youtube videos showing people getting cracked screen at 3ft. I'm convinced seeing my buddies phone that the screens too weak at the curves My buddy had me wanting to get a Note 7 ASAP after he got his but the urge has ebbed and going to play a wait and see game.

    http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...psapqeud4n.jpg
    That looks like a point load (looks like the screen hit something hard at that point)
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    08-30-2016 03:03 PM
  22. donm527#IM's Avatar
    Besides the case he had a full Tempered glass protector on it but he actually took it off just the other day because it kept on lifting wasn't sitting well. This is his words exactly on the incident ...

    It was definitely my fault and that glass cover would have saved it.. it hit pretty flat on tile floor from 3.5 ft
    It was on the desk and got pushed off so out had a little behind it, more than just 3.5 ft of power
    I didn't throw it or anything, just bad luck


    That looks like a point load (looks like the screen hit something hard at that point)
    08-30-2016 03:18 PM
  23. donm527#IM's Avatar
    (edit: more detail he told me that it was pushed off his desk in his kitchen onto the tile floor at 3 1/2 feet. But he didn't emphasize that it had a lot of power behind it when it slid off the desk. Said it hit pretty flat on the tile ).
    08-30-2016 03:38 PM
  24. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    (edit: more detail he told me that it was pushed off his desk in his kitchen onto the tile floor at 3 1/2 feet. But he didn't emphasize that it had a lot of power behind it when it slid off the desk. Said it hit pretty flat on the tile ).
    They screen, especially the corner, is very, very exposed.

    Had Samsung offered a flat screen, I would have taken that. I realized no case would really protect the screen if you want to use the edge, when I picked it up.
    08-30-2016 04:02 PM
  25. MsBlingberry's Avatar
    Frankly I think some people expect too much from this phone. Samsung and Corning never promised indestructible glass. It. Is. Glass. Glass breaks, period. Crystal is beautiful and expensive but still fragile. We cried for premium feel phones and moaned endlessly about tacky plastic. Now we have glass and we expect it to be indestructible because it's GG5 and expensive? Really folks!
    And for those comparing it to their older notes, were they made of all glass?
    Let's be realistic please. You have a beautiful, expensive phone made of glass. Protect it or be very careful with it. This is not rocket science!

    Posted via my awesome N4
    08-30-2016 04:22 PM
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