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  1. EnemiesInTheEnd's Avatar
    No, it is a very valid point lol

    We are being told Samsung lag is of apocalyptic proportions because of TouchWiz and pure Android is fast as the speed of light.

    I have never seen any lag on any Samsung device like I just saw on that pure Android, not even on a retail model.
    I think I may have been confused on what he was trying to say with that video.
    08-25-2016 05:25 PM
  2. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    It's a terrible point. Oh look. Lag.
    Unless you've changed your mind in the last two pages, I don't think you realize that you and CouragetoChange are fighting the same fight. You're saying the lag is not a big problem in the Note 7, and he is saying that even pure Android has lag at times, so saying that the Note 7 is terrible in comparison to pure android is a joke.
    08-25-2016 05:26 PM
  3. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I think I may have been confused on what he was trying to say with that video.
    Yeah, he was saying look at this lag on a pure Android device, never seen lag like that on a Samsung. The main lag was hitting the home button and how long it took the homescreen to pop up.
    08-25-2016 05:27 PM
  4. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    I think I may have been confused on what he was trying to say with that video.
    Disregard my last post.
    08-25-2016 05:27 PM
  5. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I have, but you have to go back to the budget prepaid phones of about 2010. The pixel C on the other hand is the latest and greatest tablet from Google, less than a year old
    Well I've always bought the flagship phones. My mom has a Galaxy Core Prime and I don't think I've ever seen lag like that on hers.
    08-25-2016 05:29 PM
  6. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    And bottom line. The phone buying public could care less about ANY of this. So saying Samsung doesn't deserve their success is malarkey. The public doesn't notice it or care.

    What do they care about? A phone that caters to their everyday needs. Oh, and the best screen, camera, water resistance, expandable storage and features.

    My friends would laugh at every thing else in this thread lol

    Not to be mean, but if I went on and on about milliseconds of speed, they would tell me to enjoy my phone and get a life.
    08-25-2016 06:10 PM
  7. Adranalyne's Avatar
    This site has had zero problems in the past blasting a device for performance issues. Your mileage may vary, but labeling the Note 7 as some laggy mess is just incorrect.
    Attached Thumbnails Note 7 - This lag is unfreakingbelievable-208.jpg  
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    08-25-2016 06:30 PM
  8. Lyndon Irvine's Avatar
    Wow. Having read the threads in this section I admit I am a bit nervous. I am about to purchase the Note 7 coming from a Note 4. So I could do with the update. But lag is not something I would expect from a Note. Never has that issue before with my Note 2, 3 and 4. (Before that I was into Apple) I have 2 friends here in Canada that pre-ordered it so I think I'll hold out a bit and see what their experience is like before making my purchase.
    08-25-2016 06:58 PM
  9. crystinonfire's Avatar
    Everyone's n7 lags. It'd just most ppl don't understand or even know what lag is. Every review from pocketnow to smaller reviews like flossy Carter all there note have lagged. Like I said earlier it's a nice phone that looks amazing but if your not use to Samsung's laggy setup it will drive you nuts. If you are a Samsung user it won't bother you one bit. A for sure buy if you have used Samsung. If not test it out on some 14 day plan. I loved the phone just couldn't handle the lag
    I'm coming from a Note 5, longtime Samsung user, and I for sure notice the lag. This N7 is much laggier than my N5
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    08-25-2016 06:58 PM
  10. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
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    08-25-2016 06:59 PM
  11. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Wow. Having read the threads in this section I admit I am a bit nervous. I am about to purchase the Note 7 coming from a Note 4. So I could do with the update. But lag is not something I would expect from a Note. Never has that issue before with my Note 2, 3 and 4. (Before that I was into Apple) I have 2 friends here in Canada that pre-ordered it so I think I'll hold out a bit and see what their experience is like before making my purchase.
    If you read the forums after every release it will make you nervous to get each phone.

    I have yet to experience the problems that pop up like this after each release.
    08-25-2016 07:18 PM
  12. SteelGator's Avatar
    Wow. Having read the threads in this section I admit I am a bit nervous. I am about to purchase the Note 7 coming from a Note 4. So I could do with the update. But lag is not something I would expect from a Note. Never has that issue before with my Note 2, 3 and 4. (Before that I was into Apple) I have 2 friends here in Canada that pre-ordered it so I think I'll hold out a bit and see what their experience is like before making my purchase.
    I came from a Note 4, and I am very very happy. The fingerprint scanning is lightyears better, and I like a number of the other features. I think you will see it as a clear upgrade.
    08-25-2016 07:32 PM
  13. Arsenio Martins's Avatar
    It is at .5. I changed it when I was experiencing the lag and changing the app animation didn't help.
    So far changing the scaling from small to large, I see a difference.
    Yep. Maybe it's wishful thinking but I turned off scaling, resulting in the larger notifications panel and larger icons which I'm not crazy about, and the phone definitely is faster with less lag. Makes sense if it has to scale everything on the fly.
    08-25-2016 07:33 PM
  14. slopokdave's Avatar
    I was getting very bad lag. Even when typing. I've done the following and its much better:

    Increased scaling to large and back to small
    Disabled Lookout, S Voice, and Samsung+
    Uninstalled Google Keyboard

    I ran Google Launcher too i tried all that, it's not Touch Wiz.
    08-25-2016 07:40 PM
  15. kikaha's Avatar
    I haven't had any lag at all with mine so far.
    08-25-2016 07:52 PM
  16. anon(464338)'s Avatar
    Lol this is why Samsung will never get my money ever again
    08-25-2016 07:55 PM
  17. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Has anyone experiencing lag called Samsung Plus yet to let them remote into the phone to see the lag and report it?
    08-25-2016 08:01 PM
  18. torbach1's Avatar
    I think you should be able to have it all. The nice Samsung features, as well as a smooth, fast Android experience. My Note 5 was smoother than the Note 7 and, one of my favorite phones until the Nexus 6P came out. My S7 Edge runs smooth also.
    I agree with you. I suspect something is wrong with a batch of Note 7s. The lag and speed issues are not universal. Mine is very slow and laggy with identical apps and launcher (Nova) as my S7 Edge, which I haven't sold yet. I've disabled the same packages using Package Disabler Pro other than of course the S-Pen related ones.

    Both are US, T-Mobile, SD820 devices with the same U3 microSD card. The S7 edge is very snappy, and more than reasonable enough, but the Note is just dog slow. I decided to run the same benchmarking apps on both, and found that AnTuTu, Geek Bench et al all show the Note to be significantly worse, not only than my S7 Edge, but also than the scores listed for the Note 7 in an article on this site.

    So my unit must be defective. I've tried wiping system cache, etc. Nothing has worked. At this point, I'm either going to try to get an exchange, or just return it and keep the S7 Edge. But I don't think that people who are claiming their Notes are laggy are wrong, not are those that are claiming their Notes are super snappy wrong. There is some kind of manufacturing issue somewhere. Too many people on both sides.
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    08-25-2016 08:07 PM
  19. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    I agree with you. I suspect something is wrong with a batch of Note 7s. The lag and speed issues are not universal. Mine is very slow and laggy with identical apps and launcher (Nova) as my S7 Edge, which I haven't sold yet. I've disabled the same packages using Package Disabler Pro other than of course the S-Pen related ones.

    Both are US, T-Mobile, SD820 devices with the same U3 microSD card. The S7 edge is very snappy, and more than reasonable enough, but the Note is just dog slow. I decided to run the same benchmarking apps on both, and found that AnTuTu, Geek Bench et al all show the Note to be significantly worse, not only than my S7 Edge, but also than the scores listed for the Note 7 in an article on this site.

    So my unit must be defective. I've tried wiping system cache, etc. Nothing has worked. At this point, I'm either going to try to get an exchange, or just return it and keep the S7 Edge. But I don't think that people who are claiming their Notes are laggy are wrong, not are those that are claiming their Notes are super snappy wrong. There is some kind of manufacturing issue somewhere. Too many people on both sides.
    Have you done a reset? You will have to reset it anyway before they will exchange it.
    08-25-2016 08:09 PM
  20. torbach1's Avatar
    Have you done a reset? You will have to reset it anyway before they will exchange it.
    That's the only thing I haven't done. But there have been no software updates since i got it, so theoretically it shouldn't be necessary. Still, it's worth a shot. I'll do one tonight and update.
    08-25-2016 08:12 PM
  21. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    That's the only thing I haven't done. But there have been no software updates since i got it, so theoretically it shouldn't be necessary. Still, it's worth a shot. I'll do one tonight and update.
    Sometimes it can fix issues. Also you can try it in safe mode and see if you are experiencing lag then.

    Also a reset like this, I would set up as a new phone, not restore.

    If it isn't happening in safe mode, then you need to look at your apps.

    Right now I have media server showing up on my Note 5 with a new battery, eating my battery like crazy. A reset is the only thing in an do, that has a chance to fix that.
    08-25-2016 08:13 PM
  22. crystinonfire's Avatar
    I really have nothing else I can say. I've used every phone that's been relevant over the past 6+ years aside from the OnePlus 3. I've got prior mobile experience with Verizon. I do everything short of making this a full time job/reviewing them for a living. I'm not saying the performance is perfect---no device is. I'm just saying that a lot of what's being described sounds like recycled complaints from prior Samsung devices from accounts that are new here on these forums.

    If you expected this device to be as smooth as the iPhone or the Nexus 6P, you had the wrong expectations going in. If you expected it to be as fast, you expected right and were rewarded with a device that's every bit as fast as either of those devices.
    What if I just expected it to be as fast as my Note 5?!
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    08-25-2016 08:18 PM
  23. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Also I would use my Samsung Plus app if it is still happening. It isn't 800 Samsung, do a video chat and you can keep your camera off. Let them remote into the device and experience the lag.

    If there are people experiencing the lag that way and reported, after a certain number of reports, it triggers an automatic investigation at Samsung.

    But again.. Samsung Plus using the video chat is NOT 800 Samsung. It is one small department, everyone located in the same building, actually the same floor in the building, located in TX. It is a new department they started over a year ago for technical support. They know how bad 800 Samsung is for support. Samsung Plus can and will escalate problems that can't be resolved.
    08-25-2016 08:18 PM
  24. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    What if I just expected it to be as fast as my Note 5?!
    Have you contacted Samsung Plus?
    08-25-2016 08:19 PM
  25. Adranalyne's Avatar
    For those getting the lag, did you restore from a Google backup or use Smart Switch? Those that aren't getting the lag, did you set up as a new device?
    08-25-2016 08:23 PM
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