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  1. moc426's Avatar
    It didn't work at starbucks in barnes and noble so I asked the cashier if she hit credit and she said oh no and when she did it worked then. She said their system doesn't accept it initially so she didn't think it would work.
    08-29-2016 08:51 AM
  2. bertsirkin's Avatar
    I've had it work almost all places except Walmart & Home Depot. Apparently Walmart blocks it (see Walmart’s new mobile payment platform doesn’t play nice with others | Apple | Geek.com), although some people seem to be able to use it there - maybe some Walmarts have a different type of POS terminal where it does work - not sure why?

    I also had it fail at a Barnes & Noble this weekend. It was at a Starbucks inside of B&N.

    Once I know it doesn't work somewhere, I just don't try to use it there anymore.


    edit...
    I just saw this on a blog:

    "When I insisted on trying Samsung Pay anyway, the cashier flagged down another Target employee who explained that Samsung Pay would work if, instead of holding the phone still over the terminal, the user made the same kind of swiping motion used with a regular mag-stripe card. The payment went through without a hitch, disproving my theory about chip-card readers not working with Samsung Pay."

    I haven't tried a swiping motion" - I'll have to try this next time at Walmart, Home Depot or B&N.
    08-29-2016 08:58 AM
  3. daddyd302's Avatar
    I had it on my S7E and got the $20 right away when I used it. I forgot where I used it since it was back in April/May. I ddin't have the right card so I borrowed my brother's card[Chase].

    I used my own card[Chase] this time and went to Costco. I made a purchase and got the reward right away.
    08-29-2016 09:27 AM
  4. guinnkevinr's Avatar
    That's weird because Whole Foods uses NFC as they also accept Apple Pay. There's usually never an issue through NFC payment machines, only the ones that aren't NFC and you need to use MST.
    I found it strange as well. I've used Apple pay there many times. The only thing I could think of is maybe the system didn't like that I was using the Samsung rewards card I was using to pay. It would ask for a pin, I would select credit and it would get denied. This happened twice. Worked like a charm at the other two stores though.
    08-29-2016 09:30 AM
  5. chrisforpm's Avatar
    Okay stupid question time. Is Samsung Pay on all phones? I don't see it on mine. (On Bell). I used to use the CIBC mobile pay app after Suretap was discontinued but it says it's incompatible now.
    It is not available in Canada as of yet. Samsung has stated it will be here sometime this year. I'm assuming that since the banks were so busy negotiating and setting up Apple Pay earlier this year, we won't see it until fall.
    08-29-2016 09:42 AM
  6. Sdn2995's Avatar
    I've had it work almost all places except Walmart & Home Depot. Apparently Walmart blocks it (see Walmart’s new mobile payment platform doesn’t play nice with others | Apple | Geek.com), although some people seem to be able to use it there - maybe some Walmarts have a different type of POS terminal where it does work - not sure why?

    I also had it fail at a Barnes & Noble this weekend. It was at a Starbucks inside of B&N.

    Once I know it doesn't work somewhere, I just don't try to use it there anymore.


    edit...
    I just saw this on a blog:

    "When I insisted on trying Samsung Pay anyway, the cashier flagged down another Target employee who explained that Samsung Pay would work if, instead of holding the phone still over the terminal, the user made the same kind of swiping motion used with a regular mag-stripe card. The payment went through without a hitch, disproving my theory about chip-card readers not working with Samsung Pay."

    I haven't tried a swiping motion" - I'll have to try this next time at Walmart, Home Depot or B&N.
    I will have to try this and update how it goes.
    08-29-2016 09:48 AM
  7. the block's Avatar
    So far I've found 1 location where Samsung pay is working. I've probably tried about 5, and it's starting to get embarrassing to the point I don't want to keep trying.
    08-29-2016 10:41 AM
  8. qnet's Avatar
    So how would you use it if the cashier takes the card/phone and swipes on their side? I assume in restaurants where they take the card away you can't unless you follow the person to the terminal.

    I hate long lines, and even more people that make them longer. The people that would wait until everything is done before pulling out a checkbook use to drive me nuts. They would stand there filling it out only after its all done. The people that look surprised they needed to pay and then had to go searching for wallet or any means of paying. Those are the same people that take years to figure out what they wanted in the first place.

    So I am careful not to try new things like nfc at the counter with long lines. I actually switched to my check card twice because the line at starbucks got long while I was waiting to pay. I have tried twice at starbucks. Both times had some sort of error. The worst being the first time. With the case and not knowing where to hold the phone. The second time I had the case off and phone where it needed to be but I think the cashier didnt do whatever they needed first, then I got a error, then it worked. This is of course with the swipe terminal on my side of the register.

    I have free money on sampay so I will continue to use it. I also would like to share in the $5 promo so I will make sure I chit chat with a few people.
    I wouldn't want to give them my phone. I've heard that overseas, in Europe I believe; they have mobile payment systems that the waiter/waitress carries with them. You can pay right at your table. The U.S. is so far behind on this type of stuff. I know it can be done because I've seen it in a few places.
    08-29-2016 10:50 AM
  9. bertsirkin's Avatar
    I wouldn't want to give them my phone. I've heard that overseas, in Europe I believe; they have mobile payment systems that the waiter/waitress carries with them. You can pay right at your table. The U.S. is so far behind on this type of stuff. I know it can be done because I've seen it in a few places.
    Yes, that's correct - they also use a more advanced type of "chip" card - they don't sign. Instead they use a PIN. So, when you pay at a restaurant with a chip-and-pin card, they bring a wireless device to your table and you insert the card (they never have control of your card, as restaurants do here in the US) and you enter your PIN code. Nothing is signed.

    It also allows gas stations to be open 24 hrs a day without an attendant, since no signature is required.

    You can get chip-and-pin cards in the US (I have one), but they are few and far between! Mine is from Barclay and it works here in the US with a signature and in Europe as either a chip-and-signature or chip-and-pin.
    08-29-2016 10:58 AM
  10. chrisforpm's Avatar
    Yes, that's correct - they also use a more advanced type of "chip" card - they don't sign. Instead they use a PIN. So, when you pay at a restaurant with a chip-and-pin card, they bring a wireless device to your table and you insert the card (they never have control of your card, as restaurants do here in the US) and you enter your PIN code. Nothing is signed.

    It also allows gas stations to be open 24 hrs a day without an attendant, since no signature is required.

    You can get chip-and-pin cards in the US (I have one), but they are few and far between! Mine is from Barclay and it works here in the US with a signature and in Europe as either a chip-and-signature or chip-and-pin.
    Exactly the way it works in Canada. Servers bring the machine to you and many are NFC/Tap enabled. Stores and fast food restaurants have the terminal mounted and facing the customer so they can use whatever method of payment without the store employee touching the card.

    All machines here have been chip and PIN (or tap) enabled for many years. I don't think there are any old swipe machines left. If there are I haven't seen one in 4 or 5 years.
    08-29-2016 11:02 AM
  11. bertsirkin's Avatar
    Exactly the way it works in Canada. Servers bring the machine to you and many are NFC/Tap enabled. Stores and fast food restaurants have the terminal mounted and facing the customer so they can use whatever method of payment without the store employee touching the card.

    All machines here have been chip and PIN (or tap) enabled for many years. I don't think there are any old swipe machines left. If there are I haven't seen one in 4 or 5 years.
    It's amazing to me - we sell online and some customers still don't want to enter their credit card info on-line, so the call and feel more comfortable giving it to us over the phone. The WORST thing anyone can do with a credit card is give your info over the phone or hand your card to somebody. Portable card readers make SO much more sense, as does chip-and-pin, but US credit card companies, for some unknown reason, declined to go the chip-and-pin route.

    Samsung pay is the next-best-thing, as (I believe) it uses a one-time credit card number for each transaction, and keeps you in control.
    08-29-2016 11:09 AM
  12. skatergirl's Avatar
    Now that I know how to use Samsung Pay (open the app first) I used it at a Kroger grocery store and WOW was it fast. Much faster than Android Pay ever was.
    08-29-2016 01:42 PM
  13. jrsharp70's Avatar
    So far I've found 1 location where Samsung pay is working. I've probably tried about 5, and it's starting to get embarrassing to the point I don't want to keep trying.
    This is the problem. Either it works and I can rely on it, or I am just going to use my credit card. If it works 4/5 times, that means it still fails 20% of the time and debit card works 100% of the time.

    Say it works 9/10 times... What am I going to do, roll the dice and take a 10% chance I have to tell the cashier to put everything back because I don't have my wallet?

    Don't get me wrong, this is the best phone I've ever seen. I have used NFC payments for 5 years now. I just accepted at first that I was an early adopter. I want it to become the standard. Now it's time for it to work or I'm done with it.
    08-29-2016 01:59 PM
  14. jrsharp70's Avatar
    Actually... There is one place it has worked 100% of the time for me besides McDonald's. The vending machines at work. Such a life saver at midnight.
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    08-29-2016 02:01 PM
  15. climb's Avatar
    Okay stupid question time. Is Samsung Pay on all phones? I don't see it on mine. (On Bell). I used to use the CIBC mobile pay app after Suretap was discontinued but it says it's incompatible now.
    Should be pre-loaded on your phone - if not you can download it from the play store - it may be on the Samsung apps icon as well
    08-29-2016 02:08 PM
  16. monkeypimp's Avatar
    I have been using Samsung Pay successfully as Credit only. I have my debit card linked and If I choose Debit as the form of payment it comes back and says I have an Incorrect PIN number. But if I choose credit it goes through with no issues.
    08-29-2016 02:16 PM
  17. cwbcpa's Avatar
    This is the problem. Either it works and I can rely on it, or I am just going to use my credit card. If it works 4/5 times, that means it still fails 20% of the time and debit card works 100% of the time.

    Say it works 9/10 times... What am I going to do, roll the dice and take a 10% chance I have to tell the cashier to put everything back because I don't have my wallet?

    Don't get me wrong, this is the best phone I've ever seen. I have used NFC payments for 5 years now. I just accepted at first that I was an early adopter. I want it to become the standard. Now it's time for it to work or I'm done with it.
    I tend to agree with you. It is great, but I can't leave my wallet at home. While Samsung Pay has worked well for me, I don't have enough faith in it to not have my wallet with me. Whether it's Samsung Pay, Apple Pay or Android Pay, it's new technology and it's only going to get better. I will use it when I feel comfortable and when I don't I will pull out the card. I certainly will not hold up a line if I am not confident that it will work the first time I try.
    08-29-2016 02:25 PM
  18. jrsharp70's Avatar
    Finally got it to work. First I tried a gas station without NFC and it failed. Next I tried a grocery store with an NFC terminal but with the non-NFC method and it failed. Finally used the NFC method at the same terminal and it worked beautifully. $20 gift card in the bag.
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    08-29-2016 02:57 PM
  19. stmax's Avatar
    Should be pre-loaded on your phone - if not you can download it from the play store - it may be on the Samsung apps icon as well
    Hmm. Can't see it anywhere.
    08-29-2016 11:50 PM
  20. chrisforpm's Avatar
    Hmm. Can't see it anywhere.
    Unfortunately you won't be able to download it. Samsung Pay is currently not available in Canada.
    08-30-2016 10:38 AM
  21. SpookDroid's Avatar
    Never had an issue (other than people screaming at me because I 'hacked' their terminal with my hacker phone) using Samsung Pay. Sometimes the cashier needs to initiate the process, and they usually do when they see you take out your card, but with the phone, you might have to tell them you're using a 'card' to pay.
    08-30-2016 05:07 PM
  22. SpookDroid's Avatar
    This is the problem. Either it works and I can rely on it, or I am just going to use my credit card. If it works 4/5 times, that means it still fails 20% of the time and debit card works 100% of the time.

    Say it works 9/10 times... What am I going to do, roll the dice and take a 10% chance I have to tell the cashier to put everything back because I don't have my wallet?

    Don't get me wrong, this is the best phone I've ever seen. I have used NFC payments for 5 years now. I just accepted at first that I was an early adopter. I want it to become the standard. Now it's time for it to work or I'm done with it.
    Except cards don't work 100% of the time. Have you ever seen a cashier rubbing the magnetic strip on their shirts or looking at a worn-out strip and giving you the stink eye? Yup.
    08-30-2016 05:09 PM
  23. SpookDroid's Avatar
    I found it strange as well. I've used Apple pay there many times. The only thing I could think of is maybe the system didn't like that I was using the Samsung rewards card I was using to pay. It would ask for a pin, I would select credit and it would get denied. This happened twice. Worked like a charm at the other two stores though.
    The Samsung Rewards card is a debit card, not a credit one. And on top of that, Citi did say they were having issues with the cards getting declined but those were 'being resolved'.
    08-30-2016 05:10 PM
  24. tlo07's Avatar
    I'm seeing a lot of conflicting info about whether I should be using debit or credit. If I have my debit card in Samsung Pay, do I want to choose debit or switch to credit? Also, if I use debit and have to enter a PIN do I enter the PIN I originally set up with the physical card?
    08-30-2016 09:32 PM
  25. nobrakes's Avatar
    I'm seeing a lot of conflicting info about whether I should be using debit or credit. If I have my debit card in Samsung Pay, do I want to choose debit or switch to credit? Also, if I use debit and have to enter a PIN do I enter the PIN I originally set up with the physical card?
    When using Samsung Pay using your debit card you enter the pin that's assigned to that card.
    08-30-2016 10:37 PM
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