1. skatergirl's Avatar
    09-02-2016 10:14 PM
  2. dsignori's Avatar
    Link is broken for me.
    toenail_flicker likes this.
    09-02-2016 10:18 PM
  3. Jewels81's Avatar
    Link is broken for me.
    Same
    toenail_flicker likes this.
    09-02-2016 10:19 PM
  4. dsignori's Avatar
    I think this is what she meant to post. Battery fire risk goes well beyond Samsung - CBS News
    09-02-2016 10:22 PM
  5. skatergirl's Avatar
    I think this is what she meant to post. Battery fire risk goes well beyond Samsung - CBS News
    Thank you! I am on my non blowing up phone and I must not have gotten the full copy and paste.
    toenail_flicker and dsignori like this.
    09-02-2016 10:24 PM
  6. metllicamilitia's Avatar
    Sorry, I stopped reading after that it said all batteries are prone to blowing up if you do any of things that every battery manufacturer explicitly labels and says not to do to batteries.
    09-02-2016 11:15 PM
  7. dpham00's Avatar
    Lithium ion batteries have exploded in the past. The issue here is the significant failure rate which is why Samsung is doing a recall
    09-02-2016 11:19 PM
  8. coolbreeze78's Avatar
    At least the news is laying off of ecigs... for now...
    09-03-2016 01:06 AM
  9. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Well, lithium batteries have a chance of exploding if improperly maintained or manufactured. Remember those hoverboards?

    Though the chance of them exploding on the Note7 is probably greater than what is considered normal, so Samsung did the recall.
    09-03-2016 02:56 AM
  10. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    I also thought I'd add this bit of info.

    Samsung's handling of Galaxy Note 7 recall raises conerns for U.S. officials - Recode

    Apparently, some retailers are still selling the Note7, even though it's under a recall and carriers plus the big retailers have already pulled them off the shelves.

    Perhaps it would be best if Samsung could work with the US Consumer Safety Product Commission in order to make sales of the device during this period illegal so they are sure that no more Notes make it to the hands of more consumers and that all affected units are taken back so that they won't be a potential hazard.
    09-03-2016 03:00 AM
  11. Preach2k's Avatar
    I can see Apple at their Announcement now at least our phones do not explode! You do not have to sleep like This!



    09-03-2016 03:15 AM
  12. DoyouFanBoyBro's Avatar
    I can see Apple at their Announcement now at least our phones do not explode! You do not have to sleep like This!

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...73a851c59a.jpg

    This picture... is HILARIOUS
    09-03-2016 06:10 AM
  13. The Phone Company's Avatar
    Oh geez, a 1 in 42,000 chance. Make it illegal to sell? Calm down people, you're blowing this WAY out of proportion!!

    Quote from link above:
    "Research suggests that you’re more likely to get hurt by a kitchen grease fire or a drunk driver than the battery powering your iPhone​, Kindle or laptop."

    "Make it illegal to sell" would also then apply to illegal to have one [Note 7] in ones possession.

    I for one have no qualms about having my delivery put on hold, but if I was "lucky" enough to habe one already, as with many others it seems, I would not be paranoid about it exploding. Am more nervous charging multiple 18650 batteries daily in the house for my Vape Mods (e-cigs)
    09-03-2016 06:26 AM
  14. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Well, after reading much more about what's at stake and why they did it so soon, consider this a retraction of my original statement.

    http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/lega...note-7-phones/
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    09-03-2016 08:27 AM
  15. lanenubia's Avatar
    Well, after reading much more about what's at stake and why they did it so soon, consider this a retraction of my original statement.

    http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/lega...note-7-phones/
    I give Samsung my loyalty and admiration for stepping up and taking responsibility immediately and offering $25 for our troubles. I just wish they would give us a Gear S3 instead. ;^)
    toenail_flicker and mmsean like this.
    09-03-2016 08:38 AM
  16. stmax's Avatar
    I think they are handling it well. They will get the recall done and move on. Otherwise it drags on mobile the Toyota example in the article.
    toenail_flicker likes this.
    09-03-2016 08:56 AM
  17. skatergirl's Avatar
    I can see Apple at their Announcement now at least our phones do not explode! You do not have to sleep like This!

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...73a851c59a.jpg

    That really is funny
    toenail_flicker likes this.
    09-03-2016 09:02 AM
  18. toenail_flicker's Avatar
    I can see Apple at their Announcement now at least our phones do not explode! You do not have to sleep like This!

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...73a851c59a.jpg

    ROFL That's as funny as the other thread I saw with it being shielded by iMonitors.
    09-03-2016 09:21 AM
  19. toenail_flicker's Avatar
    Oh geez, a 1 in 42,000 chance. Make it illegal to sell? Calm down people, you're blowing this WAY out of proportion!!

    Quote from link above:
    "Research suggests that you’re more likely to get hurt by a kitchen grease fire or a drunk driver than the battery powering your iPhone​, Kindle or laptop."

    "Make it illegal to sell" would also then apply to illegal to have one [Note 7] in ones possession.

    I for one have no qualms about having my delivery put on hold, but if I was "lucky" enough to habe one already, as with many others it seems, I would not be paranoid about it exploding. Am more nervous charging multiple 18650 batteries daily in the house for my Vape Mods (e-cigs)
    You get that's not the point, right. This is about product liability and the repercussions for Samsung. They have done a good thing by this full recall, for us and for them, and zero people here need to "Calm down".
    09-03-2016 09:26 AM
  20. paul87russell's Avatar
    waiting for my service provider regarding the exchange, now im considering changing to another brand since im not confident enough with the note 7..so sad..
    09-04-2016 09:58 PM
  21. Jewels81's Avatar
    I can see Apple at their Announcement now at least our phones do not explode! You do not have to sleep like This!

    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016...73a851c59a.jpg

    More like "hey our iPhone won't explode but please keep a fire extinguisher handy cause they might catch fire" lol. Been reports of iPhone 6 or whatever catching fire on plane, a bicyclist fell on his and his caught on fire etc. So yeah iPhone can't say that lol.
    Preach2k likes this.
    09-04-2016 10:16 PM
  22. Aquila's Avatar
    Those are not the correct odds. 1 in 42,000 have actually been confirmed to have failed... Of all that were originally shipped. Now, let's take into account the fact that most shipments were never delivered to consumers - but, to keep things fair in your favor, let's say 75% made it to customers. So, we'll give you 1 in 32,000. Now, it is a principle of actuarial science that only about 1 in 12 claims are ever actually reported. But this is a high profile event! So let's give you triple that and say that 1 in 4 have actually been reported. Now the odds are 1 in 8,000 devices that are likely to have actually failed so far. But wait, that's over 5 times more likely just by eliminating two bad assumptions! And that's with EXTREMELY generous approximations in favor of your argument. It could easily be as many as 1 in 1800 without granting things unreasonably in your favor.

    Using the original million shipments that the 42,000 is based on - and not adjusting it for the incidents reported after that 42,000 started making the rounds on the internet, it's incredibly likely that there are 250-600 more devices that will fail within the first two weeks of use, under similar circumstances as those that have failed so far. The pattern used to predict failure rates on known to be corrupted parts looks very similar to the Fibonacci sequence. That means that given enough time, 4-6 weeks based on the shortness of the time so far, we can have thousands of destroyed units and in double that time it can grow to tens of thousands or even a hundred thousand. THAT is the reason for the recall. It's because so many failed so quickly that the odds are significant, over 20%, that ALL of the devices with this battery issue could catastrophically fail within the first 18 weeks of use.

    We can keep doing this, but the long and short of how it works is that when you start factoring in limiting criteria, such as the length of use before charging, the number of days into ownership that they failed, the fact that the numerator includes those shipped to places that do not have the defects, such as China, etc. All of those things will further reduce the number of devices in play to which the known cases will be evaluated against - unless someone can definitively say exactly how and why they're failing, basically all that can be said is that the odds are significantly higher than the relatively close to zero odds of one that is sent without the error - so there is literally no good reason not to do the exchange.
    09-04-2016 10:21 PM
  23. badMojo69's Avatar
    Well at least the iPhone is made in Americ.....never mind.
    Preach2k likes this.
    09-04-2016 10:24 PM
  24. Jewels81's Avatar
    Well at least the iPhone is made in Americ.....never mind.
    Lol😛
    09-04-2016 10:26 PM
  25. 1213 1213's Avatar
    Oh geez, a 1 in 42,000 chance. Make it illegal to sell? Calm down people, you're blowing this WAY out of proportion!!
    Better than blowing the battery way out of proportion.
    09-04-2016 10:35 PM

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