09-07-2016 06:51 AM
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  1. Aquila's Avatar
    According to article yes. I forgot that most of T-mobile's Samsung phones are made in China. Seems like you're good until the warranties come in.
    The article is not a statement from Samsung saying which ones are safe. It's either conjecture or straight up fabrication on the part of Phone Arena, because the articles they cite as their sources do not say what Phone Arena is claiming. One of the three sources isn't related in any way.

    So to clarify.... Samsung has not released any statement that would indicate that any batteries sold outside of China are safe. Until such time as they do, statements assuming which ones are safe and which are not are not based on factual information, they are based on guesswork.
    09-05-2016 09:47 AM
  2. buzzy3970's Avatar
    The article is not a statement from Samsung saying which ones are safe. It's either conjecture or straight up fabrication on the part of Phone Arena, because the articles they cite as their sources do not say what Phone Arena is claiming. One of the three sources isn't related in any way.

    So to clarify.... Samsung has not released any statement that would indicate that any batteries sold outside of China are safe. Until such time as they do, statements assuming which ones are safe and which are not are not based on factual information, they are based on guesswork.
    I just can't wait until this is all over so that we can get to loving how awesome this phone is. Really unfortunate what Samsung is going through around the eve of the iPhone announcement no less.
    jimd1050, kh965, larry1014 and 1 others like this.
    09-05-2016 09:57 AM
  3. jimd1050's Avatar
    I just can't wait until this is all over so that we can get to loving how awesome this phone is. Really unfortunate what Samsung is going through around the eve of the iPhone announcement no less.
    After having a wonderful 10 days with this phone, this has probably (and this coming from a 66 year old) been the biggest "BUZZ KILL" I can remember in a very, very long time! I just want to get my replacement Note 7 once they're available and move on...

    Zack from JerryRig explains why the Note7 battery may explode.-laugh_2b.jpg
    09-05-2016 11:16 AM
  4. Preach2k's Avatar
    Do you guys think that with all the Battery Headaches, Samsung will go back to the removable battery?
    09-05-2016 12:43 PM
  5. Blues Fan's Avatar
    Do you guys think that with all the Battery Headaches, Samsung will go back to the removable battery?
    It would be nice if they did.
    09-05-2016 12:45 PM
  6. larry1014's Avatar
    Do you guys think that with all the Battery Headaches, Samsung will go back to the removable battery?
    Not on this phone.
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    09-05-2016 12:46 PM
  7. jimd1050's Avatar
    Not on this phone.
    Right Larry - can't maintain waterproof with removable battery!
    09-05-2016 12:50 PM
  8. Kelly Kearns's Avatar
    Do you guys think that with all the Battery Headaches, Samsung will go back to the removable battery?
    No
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    09-05-2016 12:53 PM
  9. climb's Avatar
    Do you guys think that with all the Battery Headaches, Samsung will go back to the removable battery?
    imho, fast charging and wireless fast charging, along with the extra bump to 3500 mAh addressed my need for a removable battery, and I am an ultra heavy business user of my Note 7

    It was a real psychological hurdle, though, and a change in my charging habits, to leave behind my need for a replaceable battery.

    Many others feel quite differently and wish for the return of removable batteries
    SarahGN and jimd1050 like this.
    09-05-2016 01:18 PM
  10. SarahGN's Avatar
    Do you guys think that with all the Battery Headaches, Samsung will go back to the removable battery?
    Samsung low end phones still have removable batteries. I think Samsung tries to compete with the iPhone with its flagships and as long as the iPhone doesn't have a removable battery, Samsung flagships won't.

    I would like to see Samsung expand their partnership with Best Buy to handle Samsung warranty replacement services. They could continue to have people who want to go through the carrier but for those of us who would rather not, it would increase customer satisfaction. The only thing that makes me consider an iPhone is that you can so easily go through Apple for repair and warranty service. It is such a pleasant experience.
    09-05-2016 02:16 PM
  11. canonBoy's Avatar
    From the video "or go to sleep with a fire extinguisher"... lol! I'm trying an app that will alert me when my battery temp gets too high... just to be on the safe side. Trying this one out for now...

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...tterytempalarm
    09-05-2016 03:04 PM
  12. LeoRex's Avatar
    From the video "or go to sleep with a fire extinguisher"... lol! I'm trying an app that will alert me when my battery temp gets too high... just to be on the safe side. Trying this one out for now...

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...tterytempalarm
    Well... that's all well and good, but we don't know enough of the technical details about the fault to know if this is even a means to monitor the phone to avoid the problem. Maybe keeping the phone temp in check while charging mitigates the issue, might be a waste of time. When Lithium batteries go, they can go extremely fast.... they go from warm to blast furnace in a matter of seconds. It could very well be that the alarm, if it even has a time to fire before the phone turns off, only gives you enough time to get the phone into an area where the flames do not do damage.... by the time you hear the alarm fire, it could very well be too late.

    I mean, I'm not going to risk it. There's something wrong with those batteries... something REALLY wrong. The only way to avoid it is to not use the phone.
    09-05-2016 09:21 PM
  13. donm527's Avatar
    How about putting your phone in a large glass or pitcher on the nightstand when you go to sleep. (no liquids in it of course, being serious).
    If the phone exploded the glass container should... contain it?
    09-05-2016 09:38 PM
  14. JoBudden's Avatar
    It's click bait. Simple and plain
    09-05-2016 09:41 PM
  15. 1213 1213's Avatar
    Do you guys think that with all the Battery Headaches, Samsung will go back to the removable battery?
    How? The reason they got rid of itnis because they moved away from plastic. Which helped, looking at the sales of the s6 and how well received it was, unlike the s5 which was largely criticised for it.

    You can't have removable battery with glass, and even if you did, it would lose ip68. They can't even switch to metal without losing wireless charging, and even if they did, they may not be able to implement removable battery without a poorly built device like the lg g5, and again without ip68.

    They can't just magically make the battery removable. And also, removable batteries take more space than non-removable because of the extra casing, which means having a smaller battery even if they did.
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    09-05-2016 09:42 PM
  16. bertsirkin's Avatar
    How about putting your phone in a large glass or pitcher on the nightstand when you go to sleep. (no liquids in it of course, being serious).
    If the phone exploded the glass container should... contain it?
    Lithium batteries can create a fire that burns at a temperature above 900 degrees Fahrenheit. Most glass melts at temps over 1200 degrees F - so, it may work.
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    09-05-2016 09:50 PM
  17. jimd1050's Avatar
    I just keep "Topping Off" when I get down around 85% AND on my Samsung Wireless Stand on the Kitchen Counter where I can see it. I don't leave it alone AND it has yet to even get warm because of the short charge times it takes to get from 85% to 100%. Hopefully, the new ones will get here quickly, please Samsung?
    09-06-2016 09:22 AM
  18. climb's Avatar
    We can argue about this until we're blue in the fave. Bottom line is Samsung has a lot to lose by not acting quickly. It's their flagship phone, their primary competitor is about to release a new model, and this is an issue that carries the potential of significant financial liabilities if the battery explosions were to lead to major bodily or property damage. By acting quickly, Samsung puts all current customers on notice that the device is defective. And continued use of it could potentially shift liability on to the customer if injury results. Nothing at all to do with corporate character. Any company in a similar situation would do the exact same thing unless they're idiots.
    The presumption that all corporate cultures are the same is simplistic at best, and both naïve and uniformed at worse.

    Organizational cultures vary by corporation, by executive leadership, by country, by political system, by socio-economic cultural factors, by industry, by economic circumstances…………..the list goes on and on.

    Samsung is to be commended for their actions. Their corporate response and the culture it represents will be a model case study in both business academia and board rooms for years to come.

    This article in Yonhap News recently may help illuminate why Samsung’s culture is so ably reflected in the steps taken in this recall.
    09-06-2016 02:00 PM
  19. cactuspete23's Avatar
    Great video ! I did not know that the battery itself was so simple, with so little lithium. For some reason, I expected multiple layers, not just 2 paper thin electrodes and a thick layer of electrolyte. Being from manufacturing, I can understand how easily contamination can happen on a single shift, or by a single person out of hundreds of workers. Then, the question is what QC is done to detect the problem. (i.e. How many batteries, per shift, per worker, per day, per "batch of electolyte", etc are actually tested or inspected before shipping.)
    09-07-2016 06:51 AM
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