09-09-2016 04:25 AM
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  1. cardboard60's Avatar
    To me Apple hasn't won nothing.
    Because I will not even consider buying a Apple phone.
    Don't understand why everybody that loves Apple comes on a Android forum and talks about what a Apple Phone does.
    I've had many Apple phones years ago.
    They are not in my choices of phones period.
    Apple will not get any of my money.
    09-07-2016 09:01 AM
  2. 1213 1213's Avatar
    I must admit I am concerned about one thing. Here in Australia it is reported that new Galaxy Note 7's have already arrived.

    I sincerely hope Samsung has correctly identified the faulty battery units and that the replacements are all faultless. Because the turn around of supplying new units is incredibly quick.

    Should there be any more reports of phone fires and meltdowns with the new units, this will be a disaster of Titanic proportions. All industry analysts are saying the same thing, that the cause of all this fiasco is Samsung's rush to launch before the next iPhone.

    I hope Samsung are not rushing again to resupply new units.
    What analysts? The release date of the note was the same as last year.
    09-07-2016 09:01 AM
  3. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    Samsung lost with the Note 7, outside of recall, there are many reviews, true reviews, of the device that stat that it has lag issues and poor battery, despite being the same as S7E.

    The lag might be solved with future update, but now there are S7, S7E, Axon 7 and One+3 phones on the market, all of them are better value in terms of money than the note, unless you really need S-Pen.

    With so many cheaper and in times even better choices, S7E being the closest one to the note 7 and already proven to be the best phone atm, iphone 7 set to launch any moment and LG V20, the Note 7 does not have a solid ground to come after the recall.

    It will sell, but not as it should be, it's a battle that Samsung lost.
    I diagree whole heartedly. And I still can't for the life of me figure out why the One Plus 3 is STILL being spoken of in the same vein as the Note 7. Yes it's half the price, and yes it's Android. That's where the comparisons should end. The Note 7 has expandable storage, a FAR better screen, a FAR better camera, bigger battery, not just the "s pen" but all of the accompanying software, water-resistance, I could go on and on. The One Plus 3 is not better in terms of value or anything else, unless you're thrilled with a device from 2014 or early 2015. My Note 4 blew the One Plus 3 out of the water and I bought that in October of '14. The only part of your argument that's semi valid is the S7 and S7E claims, but the Note 7 is at least as good as them, and probably better once this recall thing is done.
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    09-07-2016 09:19 AM
  4. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    While that may be true it's all about the general public's perception. While the people in the know understand the situation and see it like how you described, most don't. We are the minority here. A lot of people are just going to see "Oh wow Samsung phones explode, I'm not buying one of those." I have had a bunch of people I know tell me "OMG you got the new Samsung phone, you should stop using it, it's going to explode!" because they just see the headlines which are always sensationalized. This happening on the heels of the next iPhone being announced is going to hurt Samsung. Maybe not as bad if it were the S7/S7E as those are more mainstream then the Note but anyone deciding between the Note 7 or the 7 plus might be swayed by this.
    You're right. It is far too much to ask for adults to understand what a recall is. Every time I've gotten a recall notice in the mail for my vehicle, I am happy because it means free service for the vehicle that will make it better than it was before, without me spending a dime. Sure, in a perfect world it would be AWESOME if the device was perfect right from the release, but no device ever is. Every single device will have a percentage of units that fail, and this is the first time I've personally had the manufacturer take them all back and give me a new device with the issue corrected.

    I'd have to be a massive fool to complain about that deal.
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    09-07-2016 09:22 AM
  5. chyeo1979's Avatar
    I diagree whole heartedly. And I still can't for the life of me figure out why the One Plus 3 is STILL being spoken of in the same vein as the Note 7. Yes it's half the price, and yes it's Android. That's where the comparisons should end. The Note 7 has expandable storage, a FAR better screen, a FAR better camera, bigger battery, not just the "s pen" but all of the accompanying software, water-resistance, I could go on and on. The One Plus 3 is not better in terms of value or anything else, unless you're thrilled with a device from 2014 or early 2015. My Note 4 blew the One Plus 3 out of the water and I bought that in October of '14. The only part of your argument that's semi valid is the S7 and S7E claims, but the Note 7 is at least as good as them, and probably better once this recall thing is done.
    What the truth is, is less important than what the consumers believe or think. Unfortunately, this is a battle which Samsung shot themselves in the foot. Already, we can see many Note 7 users wanted to change phone, it will be even harder to attract new users who probably will wait to confirm there is no more issues, or jump to other phones if they can't wait.

    We better pray the battery issue will be solved after the exchange is over. If fire cases continue to occur, it will be the final nail in Note 7's coffin.
    09-07-2016 09:30 AM
  6. LegalAmerican's Avatar
    What the truth is, is less important than what the consumers believe or think. .
    Apple should have that sentence on a plaque in every executive office.
    09-07-2016 09:35 AM
  7. LeoRex's Avatar
    I bet you they put in some sort of marker in the phone that is temp resistant... a 'black box' so to speak, like those water incursion stickers, that would survive a fire that Samsung can point to as evidence. I know I would do that as a CYA failsafe.
    09-07-2016 09:50 AM
  8. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    I'll be watching the live stream later today. The LG V20 looks like a complete fail.
    09-07-2016 09:52 AM
  9. cardboard60's Avatar
    What is tough is to see how many people run from being scared . And ready to jump ship for whatever,
    Run from the problem. A lot of people are very impatient.

    Like this has never happened before in the Auto world or nothing else.
    And it seems people thinks they should be rewarded for the inconvience it has caused them.
    And the prices on the new Note 7 should drop in Price.

    Its not great that this happened. But Samsung seems to be taking care of it.
    And that in itself is great.
    09-07-2016 09:56 AM
  10. Strong_Genetics's Avatar
    It's just bad timing...... They literally gave every note 7 owner the ability to jump ship to their main competitor.... Apple's keynote is today and preorders might even start today... This is in no way shape or form gonna be good for business....
    09-07-2016 10:00 AM
  11. lions_lair99's Avatar
    You're right. It is far too much to ask for adults to understand what a recall is. Every time I've gotten a recall notice in the mail for my vehicle, I am happy because it means free service for the vehicle that will make it better than it was before, without me spending a dime. Sure, in a perfect world it would be AWESOME if the device was perfect right from the release, but no device ever is. Every single device will have a percentage of units that fail, and this is the first time I've personally had the manufacturer take them all back and give me a new device with the issue corrected.

    I'd have to be a massive fool to complain about that deal.
    EXACTLY. Who remembers iphone having antenna issues. Apple said at first, don't hold your phone a certain way, and it will work better. They had major issues. Apple didn't do a total recall. They put a bandaid on it, and waited for the next phone to come out.
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    09-07-2016 11:14 AM
  12. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    What the truth is, is less important than what the consumers believe or think. Unfortunately, this is a battle which Samsung shot themselves in the foot. Already, we can see many Note 7 users wanted to change phone, it will be even harder to attract new users who probably will wait to confirm there is no more issues, or jump to other phones if they can't wait.

    We better pray the battery issue will be solved after the exchange is over. If fire cases continue to occur, it will be the final nail in Note 7's coffin.
    Why wouldn't it be solved? It's not like Samsung has had this issue before, nor is it the first time a company has called for a recall.

    What's with all the doom and gloom? Yes, Samsung will lose some consumers to Apple ( probably ones with one foot in Apple's door anyway), so what? That does not affect me in any way.
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    09-07-2016 11:27 AM
  13. donm527's Avatar
    Apple announce Nintendo and super Mario app for iPhone. And super Mario stickers for iMessage!

    Apple wins.

    09-07-2016 12:15 PM
  14. Strong_Genetics's Avatar
    Apple announce Nintendo and super Mario app for iPhone. And super Mario stickers for iMessage!

    Apple wins.

    This keynote is so cringe so far lol
    09-07-2016 12:17 PM
  15. TylerLV76's Avatar
    This keynote is so cringe so far lol
    Its incredibly boring so far. I hate that they frontload it with all the junk nobody cares about. Show me the devices so I can decide if I want to play with them or not.
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    09-07-2016 12:22 PM
  16. lions_lair99's Avatar
    Apple announce Nintendo and super Mario app for iPhone. And super Mario stickers for iMessage!

    Apple wins.

    That video, is the most convoluted, bunch of double talk, marketing hype, one could ever imagine.
    Whoever can't see that, is the very definition, of sheeple.
    09-07-2016 12:29 PM
  17. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    Finally to the good stuff. IPhone 7. Looks very good so far
    09-07-2016 01:16 PM
  18. calicocat2010's Avatar
    Finally to the good stuff. IPhone 7. Looks very good so far
    Except that protruding camera.....rather have a flush finish.
    09-07-2016 01:19 PM
  19. cardboard60's Avatar
    You are talking about recalls.
    My wife had a 2004 f150 4x4..she Had about 4 recalls on it.
    They said bring ii in immediacy.

    She couldn't take time off work. So she driver for 10 yrs. Put over 160,000 miles on it before she traded it in on a 2014 model.

    We forgot what they even was for.
    09-07-2016 01:37 PM
  20. AhemThisGuy's Avatar
    IPhone 7 here I come. Lol
    09-07-2016 01:38 PM
  21. TylerLV76's Avatar
    I am a recent convert from ios to android and after watching the entire keynote Im not impressed at all. Ill be sticking with the Note 7. I went into watching this saying if the iPhone 7 was impressive Id be going back and pre-ordering immediately. I saw absolutely nothing besides the new colors that would convince me to go back.
    09-07-2016 01:38 PM
  22. Climb14er's Avatar
    Samsung had Apple... against the ropes with the Note 7 and the S7. Not literally against the ropes mind you. Samsung upped their game with both devices.

    However... the Note 7's issues and problems, not good to say the least! Sure, they're doing the right thing with the recall. But the public and media are a little 'leery ' at the moment and Samsung temporarily lost the momentum they gained.

    I've been an Android guy since the beginning and hope Samsung and their carriers satisfy the needs of their customers.
    09-07-2016 01:45 PM
  23. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    iPhone 7 looking might good right now.
    09-07-2016 01:51 PM
  24. Strong_Genetics's Avatar
    iPhone 7 looking might good right now.
    Doesn't look bad actually...
    And it releases the 16th
    09-07-2016 01:52 PM
  25. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    Doesn't look bad actually...
    And it releases the 16th
    iPhone 7 Plus, 256GB, looking sweeeeeeeeeeeet
    09-07-2016 01:56 PM
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