09-24-2016 01:58 PM
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  1. badMojo69's Avatar
    I want to get the iPhone 7 Plus but everytime I remember I have to use iTunes to copy my music/pics and how big of a mess it is, I steer away
    someone said you need to use iTunes to copy music anymore. I'm not an expert I'll be getting the IP7 to play with since I sent my note back.
    09-11-2016 02:30 PM
  2. Snappy Phoenix's Avatar
    someone said you need to use iTunes to copy music anymore. I'm not an expert I'll be getting the IP7 to play with since I sent my note back.
    any links about this? I never heard about that
    09-11-2016 02:45 PM
  3. chyeo1979's Avatar
    Yeah except you forgot one important thing, selective focus on the Note 7 is really slow and would only be ideal in a static scene compared to the iPhone 7 which will take the photo in an instant because it already has focus at both distances because of 2 cameras. Please don't sound like a bunch of fanboys and look at the facts. Especially those who claim to be photography enthusiasts. I love my Note 7 but I also give credit where credit is due.
    Sorry, I dun really get it. iPhone's two cameras are totally different specs, you mean they can work together to obtain a single image?
    09-11-2016 06:20 PM
  4. dsignori's Avatar
    This my friend, is a massive myth. I had all of their phones and found that their cameras, albeit well over hyped, weren't any better, if at all, than the best android cameras or Nokias..

    I had all the phones, I sold phones, and did my own testing, and although I am no photographer, my eyes are pretty good. The most impressive iPhone cameras to me has always been the front facing cameras, which although were stated as some pretty low megapixels, always seems to take really sharp and impressive selfies and front videos.

    I remember when I got an iPhone 4, and was so excited to see this hyped camera. I was very underwhelmed. Then it occurred to me that the people who were hyping the camera may have not been exposed to other great phone cameras for comparison. I think Samsung, for example, has always made great cameras from the very first galaxy S phones.

    I am sure someone will do a shootout with all the top phone cameras and we will get a true analytical assessment of the iPhone 7 cameras strengths and weaknesses, if any.
    So in your opinion, the iPhone cameras were not good, and it is a "massive myth". Ok then :-)

    Most everyone else seems to feel otherwise, including just about all the sites who review these these things. Just becuse iPhones have great cameras doesn't mean other companies can't also. I would never get an iPhone, but I won't deny things about them that work well or are enticing to me (hardware, camera, battery life, etc).

    I'd have to see the iPhone's new depth of filed in action later this year to compare to the Note 7 one - to answer the OP question about how it would compare.
    09-11-2016 07:30 PM
  5. slackerjack's Avatar
    Yeah...Android users have had this a while, dual cameras not with standing. Here's a shot back from my Note 4 days
    Attached Thumbnails Selective Focus Vs. iPhone 7 Depth-of-Field-1905527272.jpg  
    09-12-2016 06:52 AM
  6. slackerjack's Avatar
    Focus reversed
    Attached Thumbnails Selective Focus Vs. iPhone 7 Depth-of-Field-772015419.jpg  
    09-12-2016 06:56 AM
  7. Shreedhar1987's Avatar
    Finally got my iPhone 7 and transferred all the data from old iPhone 6. Apple lied again and the depth of field on iPhone 7 is a joke. Camera struggles to focus on touch (on nearby objects, not too close) and the bokeh is not so impressive. check the comparison photos:
    Example 1:
    Iphone 7 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/shreed...posted-public/
    Galaxy S7 edge - https://www.flickr.com/photos/shreed...posted-public/

    Example 2:
    IPhone 7 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/shreed...posted-public/
    Galaxy S7 edge- https://www.flickr.com/photos/shreed...posted-public/

    If you observe the bokeh, its not even close to S7. Also, colors are punched too much, S7 image showing accurate color comparatively. The focus was set on htc logo in the picture.
    PS: Selfie camera on iPhone 7 is the best in market.
    09-17-2016 12:18 PM
  8. Shreedhar1987's Avatar
    09-17-2016 12:38 PM
  9. akin_t's Avatar
    I think this "feature" needs to go away on all phones, forever. Maybe it's just the photographer in me, I really hate doctored bokeh.
    09-17-2016 06:25 PM
  10. Fr0gburp3r's Avatar
    Finally got my iPhone 7 and transferred all the data from old iPhone 6. Apple lied again and the depth of field on iPhone 7 is a joke. Camera struggles to focus on touch (on nearby objects, not too close) and the bokeh is not so impressive. check the comparison photos:
    Example 1:
    Iphone 7 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/shreed...posted-public/
    Galaxy S7 edge - https://www.flickr.com/photos/shreed...posted-public/

    Example 2:
    IPhone 7 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/shreed...posted-public/
    Galaxy S7 edge- https://www.flickr.com/photos/shreed...posted-public/

    If you observe the bokeh, its not even close to S7. Also, colors are punched too much, S7 image showing accurate color comparatively. The focus was set on htc logo in the picture.
    PS: Selfie camera on iPhone 7 is the best in market.
    Why does the iPhone images not have the exif data? I just want to see what the settings were.
    09-17-2016 09:17 PM
  11. nobrakes's Avatar
    Finally got my iPhone 7 and transferred all the data from old iPhone 6. Apple lied again and the depth of field on iPhone 7 is a joke. Camera struggles to focus on touch (on nearby objects, not too close) and the bokeh is not so impressive. check the comparison photos:
    Example 1:
    Iphone 7 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/shreed...posted-public/
    Galaxy S7 edge - https://www.flickr.com/photos/shreed...posted-public/

    Example 2:
    IPhone 7 - https://www.flickr.com/photos/shreed...posted-public/
    Galaxy S7 edge- https://www.flickr.com/photos/shreed...posted-public/

    If you observe the bokeh, its not even close to S7. Also, colors are punched too much, S7 image showing accurate color comparatively. The focus was set on htc logo in the picture.
    PS: Selfie camera on iPhone 7 is the best in market.
    I think Apple said that feature will be in an upcoming update in October
    09-17-2016 09:46 PM
  12. Mr_Spencer's Avatar
    I think Apple said that feature will be in an upcoming update in October
    That's what i remember reading as well. It's not a feature that comes on the phone out of the box.
    09-17-2016 10:15 PM
  13. zipro's Avatar
    I think Apple said that feature will be in an upcoming update in October
    Yeah - the feature isn't available yet. I'm generally disappointed with the camera performance. Low light is still miles behind Samsung and the AF is slow as molasses in low light as well. I also don't quite know why the iPhone seems to be incapable of producing background blur / bokeh at all even though it has a relatively fast lens (f1.8). I guess the problem is sensor size and the fact that the 56mm lens actually isn't f1.8 but f2.8 :-) I think they should clearly state that in their website and not sell it as having a 1.8 aperture
    09-17-2016 10:48 PM
  14. Kevin OQuinn's Avatar
    iPhone will have the advantage in some areas, because math.

    When you have two sensors and you know the distance between them calculating focus for things like DoF and bokeh becomes pure math. That's where the "machine learning" comes in.

    iPhone will also probably be dead simple to use. That's their thing, take a complicated technology and make it available to the masses.
    09-18-2016 02:12 AM
  15. slackerjack's Avatar
    Yep...hardware is always a better answer than software. It's amusing though that those iPhine 7 shots above look so saturated though...particularly compared to an S7,". If those aren't doctored. I think we have a new winner in the "who can take the most Willy wonka-like" picture... Could be some post edits on both though...my Note 5 and 7 camera don't look nearly as cold as the S7 shots above.
    09-18-2016 06:46 AM
  16. tlo07's Avatar
    I think Apple said that feature will be in an upcoming update in October
    Also keep in mind it's called "portrait mode" for a reason. It uses face recognition and it will only work for portraits of people, allegedly.
    09-18-2016 12:16 PM
  17. Ca_lvn's Avatar
    Just tried selective focus for the 1st time
    09-19-2016 08:46 AM
  18. Shreedhar1987's Avatar
    Why does the iPhone images not have the exif data? I just want to see what the settings were.
    Sorry about that. I had send these photos from my wife's phone through messaging in order to upload into flickr. It was shot with auto mode at maximum megapixels. Maybe, you can see many photos with exif in flickr, all have similar bokeh (it was shot with max possible nearest distance to focus)
    09-22-2016 09:04 AM
  19. Shreedhar1987's Avatar
    Yep...hardware is always a better answer than software. It's amusing though that those iPhine 7 shots above look so saturated though...particularly compared to an S7,". If those aren't doctored. I think we have a new winner in the "who can take the most Willy wonka-like" picture... Could be some post edits on both though...my Note 5 and 7 camera don't look nearly as cold as the S7 shots above.
    You can see the exif data for S7 photo (iPhone photo doesn't have becasue, it was sent by messaging to upload into flickr). It is an indoor photo with average lighting condition and the colors in S7 photo is accurate (at least what my eye see in the real object). Both are not doctrined as sent as is. Let me find if I can upload the photo with exif (if not deleted).
    09-22-2016 09:08 AM
  20. Shreedhar1987's Avatar
    Yeah - the feature isn't available yet. I'm generally disappointed with the camera performance. Low light is still miles behind Samsung and the AF is slow as molasses in low light as well. I also don't quite know why the iPhone seems to be incapable of producing background blur / bokeh at all even though it has a relatively fast lens (f1.8). I guess the problem is sensor size and the fact that the 56mm lens actually isn't f1.8 but f2.8 :-) I think they should clearly state that in their website and not sell it as having a 1.8 aperture
    I had the same opinion with 56mm lens. Apparently, that lens comes into play, when you zoom your photo to 5x, but compensated with smaller senor (as I read in cnet review). If you observe 5x zoom pics, those easily win over S7 5x zoom, but the photo is not usable due to the noise it captures with, even in the bright daylight.
    09-22-2016 09:14 AM
  21. dstrauss's Avatar
    Sorry to create a min-flame war, but my basic question still remains: to my old and untrained eyes, there is not much difference between Selective Focus and the Portrait Mode snaps that Serenity took with the developer edition of 10.1. So are they basically teh same or not? (BTW - Serenity's photos prove for me that iOS version is not for human faces only).
    09-24-2016 01:10 PM
  22. badMojo69's Avatar
    Go to 5:13 to see it on the IP7+ it actually pretty sweet.
    09-24-2016 01:58 PM
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