View Poll Results: Are you handing your phone in

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  • Already handed it over.

    23 32.86%
  • Probably going to hand it in.

    28 40.00%
  • Na, she'll be right mate.

    19 27.14%
09-15-2016 03:40 PM
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  1. jgraves1107's Avatar
    Really? So we might have new devices this week?
    That's what Samsung rep has told my Verizon store. Just waiting on approval.
    09-11-2016 03:14 PM
  2. Strong_Genetics's Avatar
    That's what Samsung rep has told my Verizon store. Just waiting on approval.
    Good to know the devices are already made and shipped ...Nowww convincing the government is last piece of the puzzle ...
    09-11-2016 03:15 PM
  3. donm527's Avatar
    Not to mention #brickgate on the Exynos machines... Those were catching steam until the explosions. There are issues with the phone to address besides the lag.

    I cant wait til this forum is flooded with threads about how everyones screens are cracking......Those were the good ole days lol
    09-11-2016 03:18 PM
  4. jgraves1107's Avatar
    That's what I figured, and I think that's part of the confusion.

    People are taking the number of units sold and dividing by the number of reports of battery failures as some measure of the likelyhood of your (or my) Note7 also having a battery failure. The problem is the probability of that is actually calculated the other way, by taking the number of reports of failure and dividing by the number of units total. And 1 in 1800 is way to high a figure for either calculation.

    If we actually calculate the probablity, even if we assume the number of reports so far is as high as 40 (or 16 more incidents reported since Samsung first announced the recall) the probability is 40/1000000 or 0.00004 percent.
    Actually Samsung made 2.4 million. They only sold a bit over 1 million. So the statistics are off. You would divide 1 million by 35 or 38. That'd be the correct number. Mine took a dive to 0% on battery usage and finally got hot on the back where the board on top of the battery would be.
    09-11-2016 03:20 PM
  5. donm527's Avatar
    As discussed elsewhere... I mentioned original reports said bad batteries account for .1 of total production. if you take 2.5 million units to be the number produced, then there are about 2500 phones with exploding batteries out there. If the two battery suppliers split production 75/25 of that 2.5 million (guessing there) then do the math of 1 out of every x.

    That's what I figured, and I think that's part of the confusion.

    People are taking the number of units sold and dividing by the number of reports of battery failures as some measure of the likelyhood of your (or my) Note7 also having a battery failure. The problem is the probability of that is actually calculated the other way, by taking the number of reports of failure and dividing by the number of units total. And 1 in 1800 is way to high a figure for either calculation.

    If we actually calculate the probablity, even if we assume the number of reports so far is as high as 40 (or 16 more incidents reported since Samsung first announced the recall) the probability is 40/1000000 or 0.00004 percent.
    09-11-2016 03:23 PM
  6. donm527's Avatar
    Well the endless boots issue was also related to the Exynos chipped machines bricking... and from this article it hasnt gone away. Probably just many dont factory reset a phone that is only two weeks old... once they do, if it hasnt been fixed by samsung in an update yet may.

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...ng-recall.html


    LOL, I was just thinking that an hour ago. Where are the threads, this cheap crap gorilla Glass blows, dropped half inch and shattered. The gorilla Glass must have gotten a lot stronger over the last week, the lag must have disappeared, the endless boot must have ended, and so on. LOL
    09-11-2016 03:26 PM
  7. Android Optimizer's Avatar
    LOL, I was just thinking that an hour ago. Where are the threads, this cheap crap gorilla Glass blows, dropped half inch and shattered. The gorilla Glass must have gotten a lot stronger over the last week, the lag must have disappeared, the endless boot must have ended, and so on. LOL
    All of the whiners turned in their phones early, so that the ones remaining with phones are us happy people (who know how to handle our phones, and know not to have worthless crap running in the background ).

    still no problems here. And I'm not buyin that the kid in Brooklyn was watching videos and it "exploded".
    I've had no problems either, and I'm not buying someone having his/her phone exploding while watching videos or any other non-plugged in usage. The only confirmed issues have been with phones that were charging. A battery charging (and cells filling and bursting) is completely different from what happens when a battery is draining (and pressure is being reduced on the cells and their capacity).

    From the people who've had experience working with batteries, and how they charge and discharge, if we had the defective battery cells we would have seen it in the early charges and discharges of the phones. Not weeks down the line after we've charged and discharged numerous times. Samsung and the other entities are just trying to cover their backsides by advising people to shutdown the Notes. Samsung knew exactly what was wrong with the bad batteries and how they worked before they initiated the original recall, and they didn't advise us to shutdown and stop using them then. It wasn't until the misinformed CSPC (who didn't understand the situation when they butted in), trapped us with the potentially problem devises, and put a hold on us getting ones with safe batteries stepped in that we were advised to stop using the devices.

    Not a single member of the forum has reported their Note 7 battery exploding. (That I'm aware of - correct me if I'm wrong).
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    09-11-2016 03:34 PM
  8. spridell's Avatar
    CPSC will most likely make a statement sometime this week. I think we will learn a lot from that statement maybe even a time frame.
    09-11-2016 03:36 PM
  9. nuangel2's Avatar
    I will be staying with note7 .I have had no issues at all .using it now.will exchange when new ones come out .
    09-11-2016 03:40 PM
  10. Blues Fan's Avatar
    CPSC will most likely make a statement sometime this week. I think we will learn a lot from that statement maybe even a time frame.
    I'm hoping tomorrow. As in the best buy thread someone posted a new image of the revised box as well with the label on it. They were already producing units and who knows, the carriers might be getting them in the warehouses right now and just waiting for the okay to release them. While it was only a couple days ago it was made public the CPSC is involved now, I'm sure they knew about this early on. It's not like Samsung would make 2 million new units without talking to CPSC about it. They know the government would find out about it when it made news they were recalling their own devices.

    No way if I were Samsung I'd recall a unit and quickly ramp up production of 2.5 million more units without first talking to the government about it for the okay. Potential to lose billions more dollars that way if it isn't approved.
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    09-11-2016 03:45 PM
  11. Android Optimizer's Avatar
    I'm hoping tomorrow. As in the best buy thread someone posted a new image of the revised box as well with the label on it. They were already producing units and who knows, the carriers might be getting them in the warehouses right now and just waiting for the okay to release them. While it was only a couple days ago it was made public the CPSC is involved now, I'm sure they knew about this early on. It's not like Samsung would make 2 million new units without talking to CPSC about it. They know the government would find out about it when it made news they were recalling their own devices.

    No way if I were Samsung I'd recall a unit and quickly ramp up production of 2.5 million more units without first talking to the government about it for the okay. Potential to lose billions more dollars that way if it isn't approved.
    I seriously doubt that things would be resolved by Monday. If the CPSC releases anything tomorrow (Monday) it will probably just be a statement saying they are testing (even though talk is they don't test themselves they just argue/discuss among themselves about test findings and their opinions).

    Samsung didn't update their statement on the recall until Friday meaning that the CPSC didn't get involved and put pressure on them until that point. They probably didn't even begin the investigation on Friday, but just released the statement that they were getting involved. The government shouldn't have had the power to interfere unless Samsung first made it an official recall. The way things played out it seems like the CPSC stuck their noses into things right as Samsung was ready to start the exchange (they'd already shipped out most if not all of the phones before then), and Best Buy's had already started exchanging phones they'd got in. If the CPSC had been involved earlier on Samsung would not have been able to ship out the exchange phones. The fact that Samsung changed their statement to include loner phones is a strong indication that they expect the CPSC to take a long time before they potentially approve the exchange phones for customers.
    09-11-2016 03:56 PM
  12. cbreze's Avatar
    Unfortunately the government doesn't do anything quickly.
    rushmore and From A Buick 8 like this.
    09-11-2016 04:04 PM
  13. keepnitreel's Avatar
    Not a single member of the forum has reported their Note 7 battery exploding. (That I'm aware of - correct me if I'm wrong).
    One member of this forum, did create a thread explaining how he cracked his screen. He said he picked up his phone while it was charging and it was so hot that he instinctively dropped it....
    Thinking about it now, he probably saved himself from the phone catching fire by picking it up when he did...
    09-11-2016 04:06 PM
  14. rushmore's Avatar
    If the CPSC releases anything other than an estimated time frame next week, they are not following their normal protocol and relying completely on Samsung information. Fa$t tracking perhaps? The dollar sign is not a typo.

    The saving grace would be they had a batch with bad batteries in the first million that sold through and contained the rest. Then PROVE the post batches are real bad cell free. Samsung has to prove that, but given the media junk involved and hysteria, not seeing fast track being too likely.
    09-11-2016 04:21 PM
  15. rushmore's Avatar
    One member of this forum, did create a thread explaining how he cracked his screen. He said he picked up his phone while it was charging and it was so hot that he instinctively dropped it....
    Thinking about it now, he probably saved himself from the phone catching fire by picking it up when he did...
    Perhaps very possible, but he did say it was new and loading all his apps and charging at same time. If he had unlimited data, probably using LTE. A combo of events could create a toasty device, but agreed better safe than sorry
    09-11-2016 04:28 PM
  16. rushmore's Avatar
    I dont believe many of these stories popping up in the US. Where's the proof? In these situations there are always people that will attempt to exploit.

    Like anything else for band wagon / hysteria events, the media tends to shoot first and not ask questions later.
    09-11-2016 04:31 PM
  17. Strong_Genetics's Avatar
    Like anything else for band wagon / hysteria events, the media tends to shoot first and not ask questions later.
    I'm surprised theres not one video on YouTube of the aftermath of someone's phone going up either....Those youtubers would love a shot to post a video like that
    09-11-2016 04:38 PM
  18. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    I'm hoping tomorrow. As in the best buy thread someone posted a new image of the revised box as well with the label on it. They were already producing units and who knows, the carriers might be getting them in the warehouses right now and just waiting for the okay to release them. While it was only a couple days ago it was made public the CPSC is involved now, I'm sure they knew about this early on. It's not like Samsung would make 2 million new units without talking to CPSC about it. They know the government would find out about it when it made news they were recalling their own devices.

    No way if I were Samsung I'd recall a unit and quickly ramp up production of 2.5 million more units without first talking to the government about it for the okay. Potential to lose billions more dollars that way if it isn't approved.
    Are they real pictures or just that mocked up one going around?
    Been all through that whole thread and only see that mocked up picture.
    09-11-2016 04:42 PM
  19. Blues Fan's Avatar
    Are real picture or just that mocked up one going around?
    In the best buy thread, someone I think out in California went to BB to exchange for their replacement, but then told them they were not authorized to yet or something. Again just what this one person posted. On here some people as of yesterday still saying some reps at Verizon and Sprint are telling them this week sometime once they get CPSC approval to release the new units.

    Regardless I think we will hear something very soon regarding the time table of new units or if it will be a long process. I think we will know by the middle of the week and can decide to wait or get our money back and get a different phone.

    Are you could stick with the amazing J series phones until new ones come in LOL. Someone at work has that phone. It's junk. I'd take an S5 over that thing.

    My beef is I'm currently using my S7. At least I have a backup phone, but the small screen is driving me nuts. If by the end of the week nothing new then I'm either getting the Edge or V20 maybe. I can't stand tiny screens. I don't know how Iphone people do it with the 4.7 inch screens.
    09-11-2016 04:50 PM
  20. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    In the best buy thread, someone I think out in California went to BB to exchange for their replacement, but then told them they were not authorized to yet or something. Again just what this one person posted. On here some people as of yesterday still saying some reps at Verizon and Sprint are telling them this week sometime once they get CPSC approval to release the new units.

    Regardless I think we will hear something very soon regarding the time table of new units or if it will be a long process. I think we will know by the middle of the week and can decide to wait or get our money back and get a different phone.

    Are you could stick with the amazing J series phones until new ones come in LOL. Someone at work has that phone. It's junk. I'd take an S5 over that thing.

    My beef is I'm currently using my S7. At least I have a backup phone, but the small screen is driving me nuts. If by the end of the week nothing new then I'm either getting the Edge or V20 maybe. I can't stand tiny screens. I don't know how Iphone people do it with the 4.7 inch screens.
    I saw that but no real pictures of the updated box.
    All the Verizon stores around here are say they replacements will be ready next Friday the 16th, same day as iPhone 7 release.
    09-11-2016 04:57 PM
  21. soulsmilen's Avatar
    I'm sure I'll be flamed for this, but I don't care. If it helps save one person from injury, ESPECIALLY a child, then I will gladly take it.

    There are now reports that the battery meltdown has happened outside of charging which means it can happen at any time!

    That should have been the assumption by everyone from the get-go. It irked the bejeebus out of me that so many people ASSUMED and advised that it was a charging issue. Samsung never said that, and for those that are tech savvy at all, I'm especially surprised. Hardware is hardware, and cathodes and electrodes are just that. If the separator is defective, it doesn't matter if it's positive or negative from charging OR discharging. The meltdown can happen at any time, and THAT should have been the assumption all along since it was deemed a defective battery issue.

    There was no point in bringing it up before, though; people will think what they think, and do what they do, even now with several cases of it happening outside of charging. Those same folks will continue to think they know better, it didn't really happen that way, they need proof, or that they are immune. In turn, others will continue to be ill advised, and the risk to their loved ones or anyone in their presence continues to be an issue.

    Good grief, it's just a dern phone. Yes, I love it, too, it's the best, I miss it, etc. But C'mon... Stop thinking you are smarter than everyone else, and be responsible. It's that flipping easy!

    Rant over.
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    09-11-2016 05:02 PM
  22. Jay G63's Avatar
    I'm sure I'll be flamed for this, but I don't care. If it helps save one person from injury, ESPECIALLY a child, then I will gladly take it.

    There are now reports that the battery meltdown has happened outside of charging which means it can happen at any time!

    That should have been the assumption by everyone from the get-go. It irked the bejeebus out of me that so many people ASSUMED and advised that it was a charging issue. Samsung never said that, and for those that are tech savvy at all, I'm especially surprised. Hardware is hardware, and cathodes and electrodes are just that. If the separator is defective, it doesn't matter if it's positive or negative from charging OR discharging. The meltdown can happen at any time, and THAT should have been the assumption all along since it was deemed a defective battery issue.

    There was no point in bringing it up before, though; people will think what they think, and do what they do, even now with several cases of it happening outside of charging. Those same folks will continue to think they know better, it didn't really happen that way, they need proof, or that they are immune. In turn, others will continue to be ill advised, and the risk to their loved ones or anyone in their presence continues to be an issue.

    Good grief, it's just a dern phone. Yes, I love it, too, it's the best, I miss it, etc. But C'mon... Stop thinking you are smarter than everyone else, and be responsible. It's that flipping easy!

    Rant over.
    Well said
    09-11-2016 05:06 PM
  23. frope01's Avatar
    I'm sure I'll be flamed for this, but I don't care. If it helps save one person from injury, ESPECIALLY a child, then I will gladly take it.

    There are now reports that the battery meltdown has happened outside of charging which means it can happen at any time!

    That should have been the assumption by everyone from the get-go. It irked the bejeebus out of me that so many people ASSUMED and advised that it was a charging issue. Samsung never said that, and for those that are tech savvy at all, I'm especially surprised. Hardware is hardware, and cathodes and electrodes are just that. If the separator is defective, it doesn't matter if it's positive or negative from charging OR discharging. The meltdown can happen at any time, and THAT should have been the assumption all along since it was deemed a defective battery issue.

    There was no point in bringing it up before, though; people will think what they think, and do what they do, even now with several cases of it happening outside of charging. Those same folks will continue to think they know better, it didn't really happen that way, they need proof, or that they are immune. In turn, others will continue to be ill advised, and the risk to their loved ones or anyone in their presence continues to be an issue.

    Good grief, it's just a dern phone. Yes, I love it, too, it's the best, I miss it, etc. But C'mon... Stop thinking you are smarter than everyone else, and be responsible. It's that flipping easy!

    Rant over.
    Every Note 7 that caught fire was safe.....until it blew up. Right, it's just a phone, and even though mine was working fine I swapped it. It's slightly inconvenient but at the end of this mess I'll have a brand new Note 7 and be on my way. People should keep in mind a possible fire threat isn't only a danger to the owner. Others need to be considered.
    09-11-2016 05:14 PM
  24. rushmore's Avatar
    Why flame you? Forums should afford different points of view. Hence the premise of forums
    09-11-2016 05:18 PM
  25. felloffthetruck's Avatar
    I just wish I could exchange my Note 7 for a new Note 7 before the end of time.
    09-11-2016 05:24 PM
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