09-21-2016 07:07 AM
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  1. 123spongebob123's Avatar
    Spoke with Samsung about New Replacements coming out. They said on or before September 21st will be in stores. I asked what cosmetic or branding differences are there to tell the difference between exploding ones and the new "safe" phones. I explained that I travel and if I am boarding plane they see a Note 7 how will they know it is the "safe replacement" one. He said Samsung will be announcing to airlines that phones are safe to fly now. Explained if I was airline they would need to see cosmetic or some branding on the new phone showing something like Note 7 "S" branded to differentiate having a safe phone to get on board. He never committed stating any cosmetic differences!
    Wow- I said if they do not allow me on board, I do not want to have the decision of not flying or leaving a $1000 phone back.
    Can anyone confirm that there will be a visual branding to distinguish the good from the bad????
    If not what are they thinking?
    09-17-2016 09:22 AM
  2. Serkle K's Avatar
    there is not going to be any immediate noticeable difference. There are reports that there will be a "Green Battery Indicator" on the new notes to indicate they are the safe devices, but it's not clear if it will be world wide or for certain regions.

    Other than taking a picture of the new packaging that WILL indicate it's a safe device by an "S" sticker and a small black square on the same label as the IMEI of the device, there is no immediate indication of it. You could take a picture of the IMEI on the box with this indications and show them on the phone with the IMEI at the time of boarding, Kind of a hassle if you ask me, but its something.
    09-17-2016 09:57 AM
  3. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    The problem is, the is no safe Note 7. They will all be considered suspect until proven differently.
    09-17-2016 10:12 AM
  4. akin_t's Avatar
    Well Samsung has lost its rocker. This is a legit issue that needs answered for many of us that fly frequently.

    I'm not that in love with a phone that I'm willing to put up with TSA bs when I fly.

    Until they can answer this, or until FAA dials back their Note 7 stance, I'm not touching the phone.
    09-17-2016 12:17 PM
  5. spridell's Avatar
    I agree.

    There definitely has to be something distinctive to tell the the TSA people or Flight attendants this is the new Note 7.

    Let say you just happen to get a Captain or Flight Attendant that is tech savvy and knows cell phones. They see your note 7 they will say nope not allowed on the plane. What they say goes on an airplane so yo have to listen to them.

    Now maybe its possible FAA will loosen up their rules on the Note 7. That has yet to be seen.
    09-17-2016 12:33 PM
  6. badMojo69's Avatar
    This is what I've been saying. It was so bad you had recall millions of phones why the heck would not just add a stamp to the back under the glass to show it's the N7S or N7.1. It can't cost that much more to do that. Unless they have already shipped out hundreds of thousand phones to providers with no physical change trying to bypass the official recall process.
    09-17-2016 12:36 PM
  7. rushmore's Avatar
    I'm gonna Jedi mind trick them: This is not the droid you are looking for.
    Jims S5 and From A Buick 8 like this.
    09-17-2016 12:52 PM
  8. Android Optimizer's Avatar
    This is what I've been saying. It was so bad you had recall millions of phones why the heck would not just add a stamp to the back under the glass to show it's the N7S or N7.1.
    A stamp would wear off, or rub off, so it wouldn't be a good solution.
    09-17-2016 01:04 PM
  9. team420's Avatar
    A stamp would wear off, or rub off, so it wouldn't be a good solution.
    Not to mwntion that most of us use cases, which could cover the stamp.

    My guess is some time next month, all recalled devices will be bricked/disabled, once an adequate amount of time for people to swap had passed
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    09-17-2016 01:12 PM
  10. Cary Quinn's Avatar
    A stamp would wear off, or rub off, so it wouldn't be a good solution.
    Can't wear off, or rub off if its under the glass. But the issue of having a case around it still applies.
    badMojo69 likes this.
    09-17-2016 01:57 PM
  11. badMojo69's Avatar
    A stamp would wear off, or rub off, so it wouldn't be a good solution.
    You missed the part where I said "under the glass". No way it would come off.
    09-17-2016 03:07 PM
  12. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    You missed the part where I said "under the glass". No way it would come off.
    And yet people want their replacements pronto. Can't have it both ways
    From A Buick 8 and mmsean like this.
    09-17-2016 03:20 PM
  13. badMojo69's Avatar
    And yet people want their replacements pronto. Can't have it both ways
    100% right and they should wait. Heck they've waited this long.
    09-17-2016 03:21 PM
  14. chazglenn3's Avatar
    The FAA never came out with an all out ban. The phones can be taken on the aircraft. Currently, they are not allowed to be turned on or charged on board or placed in checked luggage by some airlines.
    09-17-2016 03:28 PM
  15. lv2bsilly's Avatar
    The FAA never came out with an all out ban. The phones can be taken on the aircraft. Currently, they are not allowed to be turned on or charged on board or placed in checked luggage by some airlines.
    Thank u for posting this! I think a lot of people don't realize you can take them onto the plane, u just can't power on/charge/use them during flight.
    keepnitreel likes this.
    09-17-2016 04:26 PM
  16. spridell's Avatar
    The FAA never came out with an all out ban. The phones can be taken on the aircraft. Currently, they are not allowed to be turned on or charged on board or placed in checked luggage by some airlines.
    Well this is not exactly true:

    According to FAA rules: "Any product that has been officially recalled by the US gov is NOT allowed on any plane. In cabin or checked luggage.

    So as the FAA never came out and made a statement about the Note 7 ban if you go by the rules alone it is banned.


    This information is posted on the front page of Android Central
    09-17-2016 04:37 PM
  17. akin_t's Avatar
    Not to mwntion that most of us use cases, which could cover the stamp.

    My guess is some time next month, all recalled devices will be bricked/disabled, once an adequate amount of time for people to swap had passed
    You people are making a lot of assumptions here, a lot; and this is all just wishful thinking on your part. Given that the recall is voluntary outside the US, Samsung cannot and will not intentionally brick phones.

    Easiest solution would've been a cosmetic difference/rebrand.

    But hey we can all keep making more assumptions here to defend Samsung's stupid decisions.
    09-17-2016 04:42 PM
  18. rushmore's Avatar
    The problem is, the is no safe Note 7. They will all be considered suspect until proven differently.
    I would think almost all are okay from an actual device standpoint, based on the production problem that was published. If referring to perception- Yep, you are probably correct.
    09-17-2016 04:46 PM
  19. Milt K's Avatar
    Treat all defective IMEIs as stolen devices and collaborate with GSMA and the carriers to deny service to affected phones, starting with the US. As a side benefit this will also effectively kill any second-hand market for defective devices as I'm sure there are some unscrupulous people out there who will try to make a buck off the ones they have. The international phones will still have an issue but the majority of shipments prior to 9/2 only went to China (which doesn't have a recall since they're using different batteries) and the USA.

    After this I'm sure the FAA would relax the rules against the N7.
    badMojo69 likes this.
    09-18-2016 03:28 PM
  20. toenail_flicker's Avatar
    China is having phones recalled now too.
    The international phones will still have an issue but the majority of shipments prior to 9/2 only went to China (which doesn't have a recall since they're using different batteries) and the USA.

    After this I'm sure the FAA would relax the rules against the N7.
    09-18-2016 05:01 PM
  21. wildcard30's Avatar
    SamMobile has an article about how you can tell if it is a replacement Note 7 because of the green battery icon which can be seen in 3 locations.
    Attached Thumbnails Recall-What Visual/Branding Changes In New Note 7 Coming Out-Airlines/Customers Know Which Is Which-3824.jpg  
    09-19-2016 07:28 AM
  22. spridell's Avatar
    SamMobile has an article about how you can tell if it is a replacement Note 7 because of the green battery icon which can be seen in 3 locations.
    I guess this is a good step maybe should of done a little more? I guess since its just the battery if they did any marking on the outside of the device they would have had to start manufacturing all new pieces.
    09-19-2016 07:42 AM
  23. dlgus's Avatar
    Spoke with Samsung about New Replacements coming out. They said on or before September 21st will be in stores. I asked what cosmetic or branding differences are there to tell the difference between exploding ones and the new "safe" phones. I explained that I travel and if I am boarding plane they see a Note 7 how will they know it is the "safe replacement" one. He said Samsung will be announcing to airlines that phones are safe to fly now. Explained if I was airline they would need to see cosmetic or some branding on the new phone showing something like Note 7 "S" branded to differentiate having a safe phone to get on board. He never committed stating any cosmetic differences!
    Wow- I said if they do not allow me on board, I do not want to have the decision of not flying or leaving a $1000 phone back.
    Can anyone confirm that there will be a visual branding to distinguish the good from the bad????
    If not what are they thinking?
    Oh GOODY!!! Something NEW to second guess Samsung on!
    09-19-2016 08:00 AM
  24. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    Well, as wildcard showed, perhaps showing the green battery indicator and also showing the icon in the power menu may help.

    And at least in some countries, ones on the recall list will be limited to a 60% charge.
    09-19-2016 08:59 AM
  25. Clocks's Avatar
    If you're a frequent flier I would return the Note 7 for a while. Also the previous comment is correct, the official recall is the official ban on flights. It's already clearly written somewhere in the middle of the thousands/millions of pages of CFRs, that's good enough for them. The FAA isn't going to issue a statement restating an existing rule and how it applies to this one recalled item.

    The issue is in a month when everyone has a new device but no one knows wtf is going on. You take off on your international flight and the passenger next to you says something to the flight attendant and now you're asked to either turn off your phone and enjoy Skymall magazine for 8 hours or risk a felony. They don't have time to read the 900 memos they get every week, won't give a crap about the color of the battery indicator and they don't have time to argue with you about it. And the captain, who is old enough to be your grandpa, doesn't have a clue what a galaxy 7 is and isn't going to be bothered with a long discussion with the flight attendant about you.

    Here's what the flight crews know:

    1) Note 7s have to be powered off during flight.
    2) Officially recalled items cant be brought on board

    What they *might* know if they follow the news:

    1) New Note 7s are being issued
    2) The Note 7 was officially recalled

    There's a lot of places for knowledge to break down. At a minimum I would bring another device with you to use during flight.
    09-19-2016 09:08 AM
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