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  1. jfoofoo's Avatar
    If you want to gamble with your life and property, more power to you. However, unless you live out in the middle of the dessert by yourself, you are putting other people at risk for your unlimited data.
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    09-23-2016 09:55 AM
  2. LeoRex's Avatar
    So... I think I'm just going to keep my original Note 7.
    Verizon's UDP is not worth risking the safety of you and everyone around you. I mean, this isn't a 'wearing a helmet' sort of thing.... you aren't the only one at risk. I'm not saying this to be mean, but the choice you are making is really irresponsible and short-sighted and I truly hope that you don't hurt yourself or someone near you because of it. Yes, there might 'only' be a 0.1% chance your phone is vulnerable, but those are 1 in 1000 odds that something might happen. And you won't have any idea how severe an outcome might occur until it happens.

    I mean, I'm no expert, but if something bad did happen, you could be be looking at criminal negligence charges. Is that UDP plan worth that much?

    I'm not trying to be a pain here... really. I know it blows that you might be in that sort of position to have to make a sacrifice, but it is what is is... and you are absolutely making the wrong choice.
    09-23-2016 09:58 AM
  3. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    I have to agree with Leo.

    I know your situation with the UDP, but in my eyes, I would rather take the safe route and get it exchanged.

    Yes, it's not ideal, but I don't think anything should get in the way of safety
    09-23-2016 10:00 AM
  4. Aquila's Avatar
    Incorrect. 100% are affected. A lesser percent have batteries that actually already exploded.
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    09-23-2016 10:03 AM
  5. trucksmoveamerica#AC's Avatar
    Can't you just return it and then buy a new one. The loop hole should still be there after the return.

    People that comment about not worth it to keep the unlimited data don't know the value of unlimited data, and they don't know that verizon does not slow you down after 5gigs. Even with verizon capping you around 100 gigs month, the plans they have now, 100 gigs is $450 month. That's a $400 increase in cost, $4,800 extra a year. Data usage is going to do nothing but go up, so unlimited is with hanging on to.

    With that said, you have till September 30 to return, I would return it and buy a new one. Even full price your saving a ton of money.
    09-23-2016 10:08 AM
  6. LeoRex's Avatar
    People that comment about not worth it to keep the unlimited data don't know the value of unlimited data
    Oh, I'm well aware of the value. But no matter what it is, a Verizon UDP isn't worth the safety risk to the user and everyone around them.
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    09-23-2016 10:17 AM
  7. Rob.G's Avatar
    BTW saw an article on another site that says of the 35 N7's that supposedly have exploded, Samsung has been unable to verify that 26 of them ever had a problem at all. In other words, sounds like crap to them. And I think it was already posted here, but that Jeep that burned down wasn't a result of an exploding Note 7, the local fire department determined.

    As usual, the media hype is over the top.
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    09-23-2016 10:20 AM
  8. Sapient's Avatar
    If you want to gamble with your life and property, more power to you. However, unless you live out in the middle of the dessert by yourself, you are putting other people at risk for your unlimited data.
    They aren't just putting other people at risk. They went online to brag about it and declare they did so knowingly.
    09-23-2016 10:20 AM
  9. trucksmoveamerica#AC's Avatar
    Oh, I'm well aware of the value. But no matter what it is, a Verizon UDP isn't worth the safety risk to the user and everyone around them.
    That's why I said to return it while he can.
    09-23-2016 10:22 AM
  10. dpham00's Avatar
    I've got a unique situation where I took advantage of a loophole in order to retain my unlimited data. And for those that still have UDP (you know what I'm talking about) losing it is unacceptable. If you're not familiar with this, Google the Slickdeals mega thread (almost 1800 pages) on how to keep your unlimited data. Well anyways, apparently to exchange thru Best Buy for the recall, they have to return the unit and restore your upgrade (while calling VZ to do this) and then rebuy. And so Verizon would see that I used a workaround to retain my UDP, and then will remove it. If Best Buy had just done an equipment exchange without getting Verizon involved, I would be good. But that's not the case unfortunately.

    So... I think I'm just going to keep my original Note 7. It works great. I understand there is a risk of implosion, but Samsung did say that it's only what, 0.1% affected? And I do understand that Samsung may also gimp the battery to 60%. That hasn't happened here in the US yet. Hopefully it doesn't. And I know my phone's resale value is pretty much nothing as a result of it being a recall phone. But maybe sometime down the line I might be able to exchange it for a brand new one (when I move onto to another phone) if the recall is still in effect. Who knows.

    So.... I think I'm just going to have to CHARGE IT TO THE GAME.
    I would strongly recommend that you stop using it immediately.

    Since it is a federally mandated recall,Samsung must take it back. There are people who bought from a third party who can't return it to a retailer either.

    What I would recommend is that you give it to a family member or friend,and have them contact Samsung saying that they got it as a gift. Have them Tell Samsung that they are extremely concerned about their safety and would hold Samsung responsible should the phone cause property damage or injury or death if they don't take it back,and that it isn't legal to not take the phone back . also, tell them that if they don't take it back,that you would take them to court to get a replacement device,but you would rather resolve it amicably and don't want to drag it out if not necessary

    I would guess that the regular reps might be useless but if that doesn't work,contact the office of the present

    https://consumerist.com/2012/09/13/s...tomer-service/
    09-23-2016 10:23 AM
  11. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Talk to your carrier, I think with this recall situation they should grandfather or carry it over
    Besides, if anything happens its at your own risk from this point forward...Samsung already has given a lot of notices
    09-23-2016 10:23 AM
  12. Almeuit's Avatar
    BTW saw an article on another site that says of the 35 N7's that supposedly have exploded, Samsung has been unable to verify that 26 of them ever had a problem at all. In other words, sounds like crap to them. And I think it was already posted here, but that Jeep that burned down wasn't a result of an exploding Note 7, the local fire department determined.

    As usual, the media hype is over the top.
    I believe during the official government recall they said they have something around 95+ cases confirmed of Note 7s "exploding". As to those that started fires .. that is the another story.
    09-23-2016 10:24 AM
  13. Almeuit's Avatar
    Can't you just return it and then buy a new one. The loop hole should still be there after the return.

    People that comment about not worth it to keep the unlimited data don't know the value of unlimited data, and they don't know that verizon does not slow you down after 5gigs. Even with verizon capping you around 100 gigs month, the plans they have now, 100 gigs is $450 month. That's a $400 increase in cost, $4,800 extra a year. Data usage is going to do nothing but go up, so unlimited is with hanging on to.

    With that said, you have till September 30 to return, I would return it and buy a new one. Even full price your saving a ton of money.
    Who slows you down after 5 gigs? I don't remember anyone doing that except AT&T and they stopped that awhile back after being slapped.
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    09-23-2016 10:26 AM
  14. trucksmoveamerica#AC's Avatar
    Who slows you down after 5 gigs? I don't remember anyone doing that except AT&T and they stopped that awhile back after being slapped.
    A lot of carriers slow you down on unlimited, Sprint, at&t, prepaid line straight talk. I was making a point that verizon does not slow you down at all.
    09-23-2016 10:28 AM
  15. Almeuit's Avatar
    A lot of carriers slow you down on unlimited, Sprint, at&t, prepaid line straight talk. I was making a point that verizon does not slow you down at all.
    Prepaid yes... But let's compare postpaid since that is what you're talking about with Verizon. With the unlimited from AT&T / T-Mobile and them they only slow down if over an amount (22 GB for AT&T / 26 GB for T-Mobile) and if the network is congested at the time. Once congestion is gone you go back to normal. Yes it still can suck but that isn't that bad. Verizon is coming for those data plans eventually .. the 100 GB cap is just a guess. People have reported losing their unlimited for less than that.
    09-23-2016 10:31 AM
  16. LeoRex's Avatar
    I believe during the official government recall they said they have something around 95+ cases confirmed of Note 7s "exploding". As to those that started fires .. that is the another story.
    Yeah, the number of confirmed cases from Samsung was well over that.. I think the official count in the US alone was over 100. Now, that 26 number comes from a few articles that talk about Samsung suspecting that there were upwards of 26 incidents that were falsely reported as Note 7 failures. These 26 aren't part of the official counts we've received from Samsung.
    09-23-2016 10:32 AM
  17. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    Who slows you down after 5 gigs? I don't remember anyone doing that except AT&T and they stopped that awhile back after being slapped.
    T-Mobile throttles your data I know that for sure, they even say it in their commercial
    09-23-2016 10:34 AM
  18. Almeuit's Avatar
    T-Mobile throttles your data I know that for sure, they even say it in their commercial
    After 26 GB of use and if the network is congested at the time. Once congestion leaves -- it is gone.
    09-23-2016 10:37 AM
  19. trucksmoveamerica#AC's Avatar
    Prepaid yes... But let's compare postpaid since that is what you're talking about with Verizon. With the unlimited from AT&T / T-Mobile and them they only slow down if over an amount (22 GB for AT&T / 26 GB for T-Mobile) and if the network is congested at the time. Once congestion is gone you go back to normal. Yes it still can suck but that isn't that bad. Verizon is coming for those data plans eventually .. the 100 GB cap is just a guess. People have reported losing their unlimited for less than that.
    But as stated, verizon does not throttle you at any gig usage, that's what I'm saying. The 100 gigs is speculation of course.

    Down the road if verizon does yank unlimited data then we will deal with it then, but right now it's a value to have.
    09-23-2016 10:38 AM
  20. Aquila's Avatar
    I believe during the official government recall they said they have something around 95+ cases confirmed of Note 7s "exploding". As to those that started fires .. that is the another story.
    95 in the US alone, which is roughly 40% of affected shipments. 26 cases globally (almost two weeks after that number) they're saying were not related.
    09-23-2016 10:43 AM
  21. Aquila's Avatar
    And I think it was already posted here, but that Jeep that burned down wasn't a result of an exploding Note 7, the local fire department determined.
    The fire department was unable to conclude that it was caused solely by the phone. That's not the same as concluding that the phone wasn't the cause or involved, it means inconclusive.
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    09-23-2016 10:45 AM
  22. Almeuit's Avatar
    But as stated, verizon does not throttle you at any gig usage, that's what I'm saying. The 100 gigs is speculation of course.

    Down the road if verizon does yank unlimited data then we will deal with it then, but right now it's a value to have.
    This is true but I would rather a throttle during congested times instead of using "too much" and having Verizon send me a letter telling me to either swap plan or they will disconnect me... But I do get your point and it is the main reason I keep my grandfathered unlimited plan from T-Mobile (not the "unlimited" they offer now with toning down video quality).
    09-23-2016 10:46 AM
  23. Aquila's Avatar
    I would strongly recommend that you stop using it immediately.

    Since it is a federally mandated recall,Samsung must take it back. There are people who bought from a third party who can't return it to a retailer either.

    What I would recommend is that you give it to a family member or friend,and have them contact Samsung saying that they got it as a gift. Have them Tell Samsung that they are extremely concerned about their safety and would hold Samsung responsible should the phone cause property damage or injury or death if they don't take it back,and that it isn't legal to not take the phone back . also, tell them that if they don't take it back,that you would take them to court to get a replacement device,but you would rather resolve it amicably and don't want to drag it out if not necessary

    I would guess that the regular reps might be useless but if that doesn't work,contact the office of the present

    https://consumerist.com/2012/09/13/s...tomer-service/
    Quoting this whole thing because it is a reasonable solution that is extremely likely to work. Read this stuff that was quoted ^^
    09-23-2016 10:47 AM
  24. smooth4lyfe's Avatar
    After 26 GB of use and if the network is congested at the time. Once congestion leaves -- it is gone.
    Got this from the T-Mobile forums

    https://support.t-mobile.com/thread/...art=0&tstart=0

    If you're paying for the Unlimited Data plan (The $30 data plan on top of your standard monthly charge of $50 for a single line, meaning $80 for a single line, different base plan cost on family plans...), you should never get throttled.

    If you're on the $50 plan (base plan), you have 1GB of up to high speed data before they throttle you. At the end of your bill cycle your speed returns until you hit 1GB again. Unlimited data at throttled speeds after that.

    The $60 plan ($50 base + $10 2GB add-on), you have 3GB of up to high speed data before they throttle you. Unlimited data at throttled speeds after that.

    The $70 plan ($50 base + $20 4GB add-on), you have 5GB of up to high speed data before they throttle you. Unlimited data at throttled speeds after that.

    The $80 plan ($50 base + $30 Unlimited add-on), you have unlimited high speed data and shouldn't get throttled.
    09-23-2016 10:55 AM
  25. Almeuit's Avatar
    #1 those are old

    #2 in your own defense you just said ... "The $80 plan ($50 base + $30 Unlimited add-on), you have unlimited high speed data and shouldn't get throttled." -- We are talking about the unlimited plan obviously not the capped ones lol. Trust me .. I know the carrier stuff like the back of my hand .
    09-23-2016 10:57 AM
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