10-08-2016 11:00 PM
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  1. IncredibleJedi's Avatar
    Just a heads-up for folks: Some N7's owners are being advised to keep their N7 turned off during entire cruise trips for some liners out there.

    https://www.neowin.net/news/your-sam...ur-next-cruise

    Chances are this situation isn't as bad as it's being perceived to be, but better to keep these things somewhere in mind as many folks have planned or are planning trips during the upcoming holidays (or if you're going on a cruise really soon) and would like to use your phone.
    10-06-2016 08:27 PM
  2. kevinpleasants's Avatar
    The article on the verge has pics of the replacement box as well as they've verified the imei is reporting as green via the Samsung validation site.

    CPSC is stepping in as well...

    http://www.theverge.com/2016/10/5/13...ion-regulators
    How did they verify the IMEI number, the phone they showed in the picture was damaged and doesn't look like it could be powered on . By the number on the box? Could've been a box from another phone. I have 4 replacement boxes at my home.
    10-06-2016 08:37 PM
  3. donm527's Avatar
    10-06-2016 08:39 PM
  4. Law2138's Avatar
    Maybe the Note 7 had no chance as soon as the initial problem hit the media. Even if the problem is fixed, the fact that even a replaced device can fail would be too much for the public to handle. Statistically, whatever the failure rate is, it's too much for the public to handle. 100 in a million, no one wants to knowingly take that risk. Maybe if the public didn't know about this incident, all would be well.
    10-06-2016 08:39 PM
  5. SteelGator's Avatar
    These analogies just make my head spin. If McDonald's had a huge recall due to tainted beef, even though not all the beef would hurt you, would you still eat one? Furthermore if you did and died, you wouldn't impact anyone nor would you wind up bringing down a plane, unless you were the pilot.

    I get what you are saying, but the impact it a faulty device impacts more than just the person who bought the phone.
    Just ask Chipolte about that. Coincidentally, McDonald's use to own a majority share.

    Nobody is dying from these events. Worst case has been some burns. I don't want to be on a plane with a fire, but do we really think a phone fire is going to bring down a plane? I don't.
    10-06-2016 08:40 PM
  6. SteelGator's Avatar
    I think the Note 7 should be banned on all flights as well. If something happens, people are going to be really upset that a faulty device that could result in fire was permitted on board.

    Would you want to spend hours in a plane at 30,000 feet with something that could catch fire?
    You mean like cigarettes and matches and stuff? People did it for years . . .
    shaleem likes this.
    10-06-2016 08:42 PM
  7. rushmore's Avatar
    True, I keep forgetting about the global ecig recall last month.
    Point is things happen to devices and two events on planes with the iPhone. Where is the collective outcry over the past few years?

    Not a defence of Samsung (far from it).
    Weils likes this.
    10-06-2016 08:45 PM
  8. nizmoz's Avatar
    He is overacting on the only phone that has had a report.
    10-06-2016 08:50 PM
  9. Law2138's Avatar
    You mean like cigarettes and matches and stuff? People did it for years . . .
    I didn't know cigarettes and matches could go into thermal runaway and self ignite.

    People made the conscious decision to smoke in the bathroom. It's not like they were throwing butts on the floor or wrapping them in toilet paper.

    The thing with batteries is that you don't know when. Could be when one is sleeping...or when everyone is standing and waiting to get their overhead luggage.

    Maybe there should be a metallic disposal container for lithium accidents like this. The problem is that the smoke isnt going to stop. It's not like you can smother it.
    10-06-2016 08:52 PM
  10. ibcop's Avatar
    I didn't know cigarettes and matches could go into thermal runaway and self ignite.

    People made the conscious decision to smoke in the bathroom. It's not like they were throwing butts on the floor or wrapping them in toilet paper.

    The thing with batteries is that you don't know when. Could be when one is sleeping...or when everyone is standing and waiting to get their overhead luggage.

    Maybe there should be a metallic disposal container for lithium accidents like this. The problem is that the smoke isnt going to stop. It's not like you can smother it.
    People used to smoke right in their airline seats. No one had to hide in the bathroom to do it.
    SteelGator likes this.
    10-06-2016 09:01 PM
  11. chyeo1979's Avatar
    How did they verify the IMEI number, the phone they showed in the picture was damaged and doesn't look like it could be powered on . By the number on the box? Could've been a box from another phone. I have 4 replacement boxes at my home.
    If the back plate wasn't damaged, think it can be seen. It's scribed at the back of your phone in very small fonts.
    10-06-2016 09:01 PM
  12. kevinpleasants's Avatar
    If the back plate wasn't damaged, think it can be seen. It's scribed at the back of your phone in very small fonts.
    Maybe? I would think it would have been too damaged to see those little numbers.
    10-06-2016 09:05 PM
  13. edubb256's Avatar
    Statistically, whatever the failure rate is, it's too much for the public to handle. 100 in a million, no one wants to knowingly take that risk. .
    If what you said were true, no one would drive a Toyota/Lexus, drive Fords, take Tylenol, eat spinach, eat peanut butter, etc. In these cases, defects caused serious injury, even deaths in some cases. Yet the companies fixed the problems and those products are doing fine today. Most don't people even remember the defects/recalls after a few months.
    WalkingHorse and brau0303 like this.
    10-06-2016 09:19 PM
  14. donm527's Avatar
    A post recall phone in china explodes, this guy on the plane and let's not forget Koreans with the newer phones complaining of overheating which Samsung acknowledged and said its a local issue??? Do these things have a electronic issue with various power sources that cause issues??

    Honestly I would say if you hear one more new phone explode... I'd agree on the boycott of Note 7s.... Refuse to buy it telling Samsung... fix it or that's it for the Note 7 and move on to another phone.

    He is overacting on the only phone that has had a report.
    10-06-2016 09:23 PM
  15. SteelGator's Avatar
    People used to smoke right in their airline seats. No one had to hide in the bathroom to do it.
    This^^^
    10-06-2016 09:24 PM
  16. Law2138's Avatar
    If what you said were true, no one would drive a Toyota/Lexus, drive Fords, take Tylenol, eat spinach, eat peanut butter, etc. In these cases, defects caused serious injury, even deaths in some cases. Yet the companies fixed the problems and those products are doing fine today. Most don't people even remember the defects/recalls after a few months.
    True, but something must be said to the circumstances.
    If you've got an "exploding Note 7" in a park, nobody cares.

    Take it somewhere like mass transit, people feel uncomfortable because they can't leave when they want. They don't have that sense of control as they would if they were driving or in a building.

    People can choose not to consume a product or drive a certain car, but they can't choose to fly with a potentially hazardous device. They don't know.

    Im not saying it is the same as terrorism, but there is something about uncertainty and knowingly compromising safety that makes people worried.
    edubb256 likes this.
    10-06-2016 09:31 PM
  17. nizmoz's Avatar
    A post recall phone in china explodes, this guy on the plane and let's not forget Koreans with the newer phones complaining of overheating which Samsung acknowledged and said its a local issue??? Do these things have a electronic issue with various power sources that cause issues??

    Honestly I would say if you hear one more new phone explode... I'd agree on the boycott of Note 7s.... Refuse to buy it telling Samsung... fix it or that's it for the Note 7 and move on to another phone.
    The China phone was never part of the recall.
    10-06-2016 09:44 PM
  18. rushmore's Avatar
    Where is this same adamant tone from the iPhone fires over the past few years?
    10-06-2016 09:48 PM
  19. donm527's Avatar
    If I recall correctly it was a brand new phone, latest lot... had a black square on the box. So basically a version 2 phone.

    The China phone was never part of the recall.
    10-06-2016 09:50 PM
  20. sweetypie31's Avatar
    Im not going to go into panic mode until Samsung sends me something saying I need to return the phone. Until then I'll let Samsung investigate and use my phone.
    10-06-2016 09:53 PM
  21. donm527's Avatar
    If they had a number of exploding phones in a 1-2 month period I'd be on that bandwagon too if I was interested in buying one or an owner. From what I read from the various mentions of them... none have a connection like the issue here. This is more than an issue of, "all phone companies have exploding phones "... brand new phone... put two months... and can't get a month without a number of phones exploding??

    Where is this same adamant tone from the iPhone fires over the past few years?
    10-06-2016 09:54 PM
  22. edubb256's Avatar
    Im not saying it is the same as terrorism, but there is something about uncertainty and knowingly compromising safety that makes people worried.
    My point was that people collectively are better at understanding risk in the long run than some of the discussion here would suggest.

    I do agree though that the circumstance (in an airplane) leads to a cognitive bias in which people rate the risk of occurrence higher than it really is. So far all we know is that there has been one report in the US and cause is unknown.
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    10-06-2016 09:54 PM
  23. dstrauss's Avatar
    How are you so sure it was a Note 7 or a replacement Note 7. That picture could have come from me. Notice which side the burned battery is on compared to other photos of burnted Note 7s.
    You quoted my whole post and didn't even read my very first sentence - it doesn't matter whether it was a replacement or not - please go back and read it then try and make a point.
    10-06-2016 10:03 PM
  24. ThrottleJohnny's Avatar
    So can we assume the Note 7 is dead, except for the few who chose to keep it as a relic?

    I feel like we're just talking in circles now.
    10-06-2016 10:17 PM
  25. trucksmoveamerica#AC's Avatar
    The washers didn't "explode" ,A mechanical piece of hardware came apart. I don't think any fire was involved. The word explode shouldn't 've used in the case of the washers nor Note 7. Have you wondered why this keeps supposedly is happening on airplanes?. I have a Note 7 replacement that doesn't get hot like my recall didn't get hot. But I can manipulate it and cause it to do exactly what the one on the SW plane did. But just because there was a pix of a replacement box doesn't mean it was a replacement phone. They said they verified the IMEI number and they proved it was a replacement. So how did they verify that when the phone was damaged and couldn't be turned on. Certainly not by the box because how do we know the phone came out of that box? But we are to believe this but let's wait for the investigation. But the damage to Samsung has been done, but that's the purpose of all this. But believe everything you hear or see. We shouldn't act brain dead.
    I know, just saying what the media says. Either way my point is they still have washers that look like they exploded 4 years later. Concerns me that they never really fixed that problem, the note 7 could fall into that category, which I hope not. I am still using the note 7 and intend to keep using it.
    10-06-2016 10:22 PM
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