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  1. jsk0703's Avatar
    I just stopped by our local store to look around. Was hoping to get my hands on new tech but they haven't updated yet.

    I did, however checkout the iPhone 7plus. Not a bad device at all, but it's not a N7 either. Coming from a 6plus, the iPhone felt familiar though. Boring, but familiar.

    I wasnt thrilled with the S7E but it's not bad. Might consider that option. The phone I did like was the v10 which now has me curious about the v20. Might be my next phone if the N7 gets cancelled.
    10-10-2016 04:03 PM
  2. billykac's Avatar
    Cool to see some new insights surfacing about these two phones.

    It's great to hear that the V20 looks/feels responsive. Reports I've read indicate that it's way snappier than the N7 - like clearly snappier. The battery is still a concern for me as is long-term support, which has not been a real strong suit for LG.

    The Pixel still intrigues me somehow, even though there are fewer features. Although total eye candy, check out the custom case site.

    Since I bought my N7 at Sam's Club, there are some confounding aspects of the return/refund process. Currently, Sam's Club does not have a policy to return/refund N7's, unless you are willing to give up/return any gift card promos you may have received back in August. My local SC Manager is willing to contact SC Corporate today to work-out a sensible return arrangement for me, given the fact that as of today, Samsung has halted N7 production, and all major US carriers are offering immediate returns/refunds due to safety concerns - with no questions asked about prior promos received. B/c I have no faith in SC, I also have VZW Executive Relations working on a return arrangement for me as well. What a PIA!

    My take is that it's time for me to let go of the N7, and since I didn't purchase my N7 at a VZW store, I have to finagle my return process.

    So, I'll be in the market for either one of these phones soon.
    As of now, I really don't lean towards one or the other.
    -bk
    10-10-2016 04:05 PM
  3. Note4Ever's Avatar
    I'm not sure if the new Thread i started on the Note 7 forum will get approved because i'm so new , so i'll repost it here , these are just my two cents .

    Look , i know i'm going to sound like a cave dwelling neanderthal who's come to show you his cave scribbles but hear me out .

    The Tech media is all about NEW NEW NEW !!!!! They get paid to run advertisements for NEW phones , not old ones . I Remember when the Note 5 came out and everyone was falling over themselves to talk about how great it was , while forgetting they took away the removable battery , Mico-SD slot , IR-blaster ect ...

    Same thing with the note 7 , ITS THE BEST PHONE IN THE WORLD EVER ~~~ the sealed in battery is an AWESOME idea!!!! Really ? Why ? so you're forced to go out and get a new phone in two years ? or so that you can go swimming with your phone , which is something no one would do even if they have a phone that has water resistance .

    The USER difference between the note 4 and the note 7 is NEGLIGIBLE ... If you use your phone to run benchmarks , then yes you'll love the 7 more ( but no one actually DOES that , they don't MAKE the phones for you to run benchmarks all day ) ...

    As for the Galaxy gear ? WOOOO , haven't seen a single soul outside of their home with one on their face . Real tech guys have ACTUAL gaming setups at home and don't need the google cardboard of VR . ( and saying you DID want gear VR , go to youtube and you can actually modify the current Galaxy gear to be compatible with the note 4 )

    The hardest part about accepting the fact that the note 7 isn't that much more useful than the note 4 is the mental block in many peoples heads that's been put their by the media and advertising companies ... i know it was a struggle on my part . GOTTA HAVE THE LATEST , GOTTA HAVE THE BEST , it's seared into your brain ....but what difference does an extra GB of Ram make ? so i can only have three apps running concurrently instead of 4 ?

    i had to force myself to sit down and weight the pro's and cons ,at the end of the day the 4 was the clear winner , but even then it was a fight to accept that a phone from 2014 was a better fit for me as a consumer than a phone from 2016 ,

    If you don't need the Iris scanner , if you don't care that your phone isn't shiny because you put it in a case , if you can live with 3 GB's ram instead of 4 , and if you don't go swimming with your phone or drop it in the toilet ....Then what do you need a note 7 for ?

    You can more than easily live with a galaxy note 4 , which will cost you less in accessories and purchase price ...

    I urge any true note fan out there NOT to buy into needless hype , really THINK about getting a note 4 , you can still buy them brand new from B&H photo .... i got mine there last month unlocked and all the accessories were half off (amazon) ... i'm absolutely loving my phone and there isn't a thing i can't do with my phone that you can do with a note 7 .
    10-10-2016 04:15 PM
  4. Almeuit's Avatar
    I've tried iPhones.. It's a been there done that for me. Not doing it.
    10-10-2016 04:17 PM
  5. Almeuit's Avatar
    No thanks. It's too old for me.
    10-10-2016 04:17 PM
  6. No1up's Avatar
    Samsung needs to put out an official statement instead of leaving us hanging... what do we do with the devices?!
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    10-10-2016 04:18 PM
  7. Mike Dee's Avatar
    Yes. The 821 is just a souped up 820. But one of the areas it was souped in (a faster-running GPU that is the same base version) happens to have made a significant difference, especially with Android 7 and in future versions. It makes a dramatic difference in the way Nougat runs, too, because of so much dependency on the GPU in recent versions of Android, but the 820 still runs Nougat well.

    Android 7 requires Open GL ES 3.1+Android extensions or Vulkan to render the UI. The Snapdragon 820 supports these. It does not support any newer graphics APIs. I believe it could, but any support for anything further has to come from Qualcomm.

    If the next version of Android requires Open GL ES 3.2 (a safe bet since it's been stable and in use since June of this year) The Snapdragon 820 will not meet the minimum requirements. Qualcomm has always "forgotten" capable chips rather than update them. They no longer manufacture the 820, so they waste no resources on it. If you need Open GL ES 3.2 for your project, you buy a Snapdragon 821 which will be supported. That's fine unless you want to revisit older products and update their software.

    If Google gets Android O out the door before the two-year support window for the Nexus 6P is over, they will expect Qualcomm to deliver the software required to support it on the 810 as part of the contract. If they support the 810, they'll likely support the 820. This actually happened with the 2013 Nexus 7. It shipped with Jellybean. The update to KitKat requires a higher version of Open GL than the CPU supported. Qualcomm said no. Google said yes. The back and forth continued until Google was able to force Qualcomm to honor the contract and the Nexus 7 was updated (months after the Nexus 5). We also lost Jean-Baptist Quereu, the man working for Google who was the best friend the Android community ever had over the issue, as he couldn't take that kind of stress again and went to Yahoo to be their senior developer. Thanks, Qulacomm.

    Until that happens, you can't count on anything. If you want to be sure whatever you buy will run Android O, you need to buy something with at least a Qualcomm 821 if it has a Qualcomm CPU. I know Bill Yi — the fellow who took over for Mr. Quereu — will fight just as hard for it to happen if it does fall under the support window. I also know the people writing the software will try to get at least a rudimentary version of O out before the two-year period is up. But trying is not the same as being sure.


    This could (and probably will one day) be solved through a software graphics API. New games run on older graphics cards on your computer because Open GL or Direct X can filter what the graphics card supports, then not use the things it doesn't support in your game. But for now, things that have a GPU dependency on mobile use direct access to the hardware, so the chip makers support is required. That's a big part of the reason the iPhone gets updated longer and runs better/smoother. Apple makes both the chip and the software. Same thing with Exynos and Galaxy S phones. They can code in support for older versions of the hardware, and make the hardware itself with the future in mind.

    Google is trying something similar with the Pixel and an off-the-shelf CPU by tailoring their own Android build to a very specific set of GPU instructions for UI acceleration. But the Android team — not the Google Hardware division who makes the Pixel — still has to have more generic support and a way people like LG or Samsung or Google's hardware division can build their version to support their hardware.

    This $hit's hard y'all. Most of us (me included) have no idea exactly how hard it is.
    So if I read you correctly it could go either way with Android 8.0 compatibility with the 810 and 820 depending on the release date.
    10-10-2016 04:19 PM
  8. jbcatl's Avatar
    The only thing Samsung has impressed me with so far is their ability to make a bad situation worse.
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    10-10-2016 04:21 PM
  9. bobxxz's Avatar
    I came from a Note 4 and to be honest, Note 4 has too much lag and battery life is not as good as Note 7.
    10-10-2016 04:22 PM
  10. nizmoz's Avatar
    It was snappier than my N7. It was very noticeable even though it didn't have much installed on it.
    10-10-2016 04:23 PM
  11. Zaku77's Avatar
    I'm in the same boat. I have no idea what to do. To make it worse, I already sold my MXPE and the only other phone I want (Axon 7) doesn't even bloody work on Verizon. This whole situation has been just awful.
    10-10-2016 04:24 PM
  12. Note4Ever's Avatar
    So if i said you could have a Brand new Honda Civic from 2014 for half off , vs a Brand New Honda civic from 2016 at full price , would you still feel the same ?
    10-10-2016 04:24 PM
  13. anon(782252)'s Avatar
    Never used an iPhone, never will.
    10-10-2016 04:24 PM
  14. anon(782252)'s Avatar
    So if i said you could have a Brand new Honda Civic from 2014 for half off , vs a Brand New Honda civic from 2016 at full price , would you still feel the same ?
    Big difference between saving $10,000 and saving $400.
    10-10-2016 04:28 PM
  15. Note4Ever's Avatar
    LOL true that .... i guess i'm just super cheap .
    10-10-2016 04:33 PM
  16. aggie's Avatar
    I've had a 7 Plus for a couple weeks now and like it quite a bit. I always keep an iOS and Android device so I'm not really switching. If the Note 7 wasn't plagued with the issues that are currently present it is easily my favorite phone ever. Going to sadly return my Note 7 to AT&T tomorrow and hope for a full refund. I do not want to exchange as there isn't really another device out that I want right now. Had the S7e and gave it to wife. Only other phone I would be interested in now is possibly the Pixel XL. If I can get a refund I'll order a Pixel XL when it is available.
    10-10-2016 04:33 PM
  17. sparkomatic's Avatar
    I exchanged my recalled Note 7 for an iPhone 7 256GB in black over the weekend. Long time iPhone user and heavy in the Apple eco-system. My last Android experience was a rooted Galaxy S3 which I really liked at the time.

    Had an iPhone 6 before getting the Note and I really really liked the Note 7. Wasn't using the s-pen a whole lot but thought I eventually would use it more. In terms of size, it just felt smaller than an iPhone Plus which was another big plus.

    For me, there was no other Android phone that I wanted to go to right now. The Edge's OS was a step behind the Note with some features. I used an Edge as a loaner phone after recall #1. I also tried a Nexus 6P which felt really big for me. I did like Nougat on it though! But TW wasn't too bad either.

    Overall, it was pretty easy to transition to Android. Most everything for me is with Google so it wasn't as big of a deal as it was years ago. The only really bad part was iMessage. My wife is on an iPhone so we were having some struggles there...haha

    It's comfortable to be back on iOS but I will say that Android had some really nice features. The AOD of the Note was awesome! Wireless charging was a plus. Samsung Pay was a good one too. Oh, and I really like my moto 360 better than my Apple Watch. Unfortunately, there's something going on with the Android Wear app on iOS right now so I can't pair it up. Might have to go a Series 2 if it's not fixed.

    That's my 2 cents!
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    10-10-2016 04:37 PM
  18. badMojo69's Avatar
    Time to buy some Apple stock for the blow out iPhone sales! Thank you Samsung for making my IP7+ purchase free.
    10-10-2016 04:37 PM
  19. billykac's Avatar
    It was snappier than my N7. It was very noticeable even though it didn't have much installed on it.
    Well, having less installed on it will definitely help performance, but all reports say that on average, the response of the V20 is much better than the N7.
    10-10-2016 04:39 PM
  20. Roman Akert's Avatar
    I looked at the 7 and 7Plus.

    Ugly with those thick bezels. Real design disaster sorry.

    I am sure it's a good phone otherwise.
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    10-10-2016 04:40 PM
  21. No1up's Avatar
    I mean I'll keep it if they will update it, but it looks like it's all but dead.. they need to make it officia! I'll be picking up an iPhone 7 until the note 8
    10-10-2016 04:40 PM
  22. badMojo69's Avatar
    they seem to burn / explode just as frequently as the Note7 :-/
    Yea I think my 1st S7e was about to burn up. I'm just glad the screen craped out before that happened.
    That thing use to get so hot I would have to take it out of my pocket or stop using it for awhile. I'm not kidding I've posted a few videos of the screen...scary times. My 2nd S7E has been great and is now in my wife's hands.
    10-10-2016 04:40 PM
  23. EMGSM's Avatar
    Never used an iPhone, never will.
    During the first recall I bought the iPhone 7. A week later I traded it in for the 7 plus 32gb. 2 days later I traded that in for the 128 gb version. Yes it's no Note 7 but it's been working fine. It takes some getting used to though. I still have my black N7 and I'm awaiting its sentence. If all is good, I'll keep it. If not, I have 11 days to return it.
    10-10-2016 04:41 PM
  24. Strong_Genetics's Avatar
    Lgv20 for me....I thought about iPhone 7 but I'll be giving up so many features on a iPhone 7 for no reason .....atleast with the V 20 I pick up the hifi dac and Ir blaster.....iPhone I lose those and even fast charging....Too many things going out the window with the iPhone and on top of that a 1080p display and smaller screen ....No thanks
    10-10-2016 04:48 PM
  25. juliesdroidsync's Avatar
    Apple, FAA Investigating After iPhone Catches Fire Mid-Flight - NBC News

    https://9to5mac.com/2016/08/02/iphon...all-australia/

    Samsung’s iPhone 7 Rival Faces Global Recall After Fire Reports

    Apple iPhones are now EXPLODING - should you be worried? | Tech | Life & Style | Daily Express

    <sigh>... all I can say is that I think it's going to be really hard for ANY of these Smartphone manufacturers to prove that the problems came from physical damage as opposed to manufacturing defect, even if that is the case...

    I don't remember hearing so many stories about Flaming Phones of any kind when they had removable batteries... just a thought.

    Unless forced; not giving up my GN7. I *feel* (and admit I could be wrong) that this is all just a bunch of hype and hysteria anymore, but only time will tell...

    Sad for Samsung. I disagree that they made a bad situation worse somehow. I believe they did the absolute best they could under the circumstances. I hope they can recover from this... that's just me, though.

    Still luvin' my Sexy Silver Sizzler!
    10-10-2016 04:52 PM
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