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  1. donm527's Avatar
    A possible reason they are tossing that has been mentioned before on this forum...

    http://forums.androidcentral.com/sam...ml#post5474504

    Galaxy Note 7′s unfortunate demise reportedly caused by new battery flaw...

    Galaxy Note 7′s unfortunate demise reportedly caused by new battery flaw - SamMobile

    "A US consumer safety agency cited in the report claims the batteries from Samsung’s own affiliate were slightly too large for the device. Since they were a bit too large for the compartment, installing them would crimp the corner which would cause the batteries to short circuit and overheat."
    10-12-2016 06:12 AM
  2. donm527's Avatar
    If that was the case... maybe Samsung should have been "brave" and remove the headphone jack like Apple did... would have given more space for the battery (and maybe a better speaker area)
    10-12-2016 06:27 AM
  3. donm527's Avatar
    So... if the above is found to be the reason for the explosions... not hard to see where it won't happen all at once... maybe triggered after a drop/bump or whatever...

    Simple fix...better QC on assembly to make sure no pinching or find a new battery that actually fits within the space and re-release right?

    Or if it requires a new battery and to make it fit they reduce the size to say 3000 mah. Would people be ok with that?
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    10-12-2016 06:30 AM
  4. Chuckcell's Avatar
    Hmm, a component (batteries) slightly too large to fit the chassis. Sounds like one measurement was in inches, the other in metric, ?
    dstrauss likes this.
    10-12-2016 06:45 AM
  5. badMojo69's Avatar
    And the funny thing is they made the battery smaller than what is in the S7E and now we know how they were able to make the size of the phone so small and still fit in the s-pen. No way to fix this without making the battery smaller or the phone larger.

    Form over Function Fail.
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    10-12-2016 06:56 AM
  6. dsignori's Avatar
    If that was the case... maybe Samsung should have been "brave" and remove the headphone jack like Apple did... would have given more space for the battery (and maybe a better speaker area)
    While they may do this anyway, why would this be the first choice?

    99% of the users would prefer the phone 1 mm thicker or wider or something. Way easier solution, and much more popular. That said, they appear to be headed in that stupid direction anyway (If Apple does it, well then, I guess Samsung must too :-/ ).
    dcooper830 and LegalAmerican like this.
    10-12-2016 07:18 AM
  7. trucksmoveamerica#AC's Avatar
    I suspected this, even made a post asking if the fix was a smaller battery would you do it, I still would
    jgraves1107 likes this.
    10-12-2016 07:34 AM
  8. boufa's Avatar
    Arm chair engineers and experts. I love the internet.
    FSU30, Kalious, 20blks and 5 others like this.
    10-12-2016 07:39 AM
  9. Gsxr151's Avatar
    Smaller battery? Lol ya right. People complained left and right about the current battery already.
    badMojo69 and dcooper830 like this.
    10-12-2016 07:39 AM
  10. robertopod1968's Avatar
    While they may do this anyway, why would this be the first choice?

    99% of the users would prefer the phone 1 mm thicker or wider or something. Way easier solution, and much more popular. That said, they appear to be headed in that stupid direction anyway (If Apple does it, well then, I guess Samsung must too :-/ ).
    I haven't used a headphone jack in years. Guess I guess I'm the 1 %. Lol
    aximtreo, tntiger and athenatp like this.
    10-12-2016 07:45 AM
  11. dsignori's Avatar
    I haven't used a headphone jack in years. Guess I guess I'm the 1 %. Lol
    Still though, you'd rather remove the jack, than have it available and instead have the phone be 1mm thicker or wider? I'm not sure why anyone would choose not to at least have the OPTION ...

    For me, the phones are already so darn thin, thinner than I need them to be. I almost want them to make it a little thicker and give me more battery.
    10-12-2016 07:49 AM
  12. team420's Avatar
    Still though, you'd rather remove the jack, than have it available and instead have the phone be 1mm thicker or wider? I'm not sure why anyone would choose not to at least have the OPTION ...

    For me, the phones are already so darn thin, thinner than I need them to be. I almost want them to make it a little thicker and give me more battery.
    ^this^!
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    10-12-2016 08:14 AM
  13. PraetorianGuard14's Avatar
    So if the CPSC says this is what caused it, why haven't Samsung's engineers been able to replicate it according to New York Times?

    Odd.
    jackash0912 and aximtreo like this.
    10-12-2016 08:16 AM
  14. Mdm23's Avatar
    So if the CPSC says this is what caused it, why haven't Samsung's engineers been able to replicate it according to New York Times?

    Odd.
    Seems like more phones would've been affected if the battery was too big for the chassis. So from what I read, Samsung has discontinued the device without even being able to duplicate the problem in their own testing. That's gotta be hard to swallow.
    Bbarbie likes this.
    10-12-2016 08:48 AM
  15. nobrakes's Avatar
    10-12-2016 09:00 AM
  16. 1213 1213's Avatar
    It's silly to mention anything else like headphone jack here. Even if the phone was thicker, or if they removed the headphone jack, they simply would have made the battery larger. They made the battery smaller than the one in the s7 edge even, just to make sure it fit. But Samsung SDI made batteries that obviously didn't meet the spec they were supposed to, or Samsung didn't do the calculations properly. It was simply an error, and no other change would necessarily mean it wouldn't happen.

    Except for removable batteries which come in cases and wouldn't be prone to the sort of error that occurred.
    recDNA likes this.
    10-12-2016 09:19 AM
  17. 1213 1213's Avatar
    So if the CPSC says this is what caused it, why haven't Samsung's engineers been able to replicate it according to New York Times?

    Odd.
    Because the Amperex batteries in the replacements don't have this flaw, they have another unknown one.
    10-12-2016 09:20 AM
  18. rushmore's Avatar
    So Samsung told the CPSC the wrong thing? Big difference from what they reported.
    10-12-2016 09:34 AM
  19. Nakrohtap's Avatar
    Smaller battery? Lol ya right. People complained left and right about the current battery already.
    People were complaining before they were even released. As long as it lasts all day for most people and has quick charging, I don't see any issue making the battery slightly smaller or the compartment slightly bigger.
    10-12-2016 09:40 AM
  20. D13H4RD2L1V3's Avatar
    It was narrower than the Note 5.

    That could be a contributing factor since it kept the same screen size and was marginally thicker.
    10-12-2016 09:47 AM
  21. recDNA's Avatar
    So... if the above is found to be the reason for the explosions... not hard to see where it won't happen all at once... maybe triggered after a drop/bump or whatever...

    Simple fix...better QC on assembly to make sure no pinching or find a new battery that actually fits within the space and re-release right?

    Or if it requires a new battery and to make it fit they reduce the size to say 3000 mah. Would people be ok with that?
    No but I would have been fine with a slightly larger phone. All phones are too thin.
    dsignori and BarfingMonkey like this.
    10-12-2016 09:52 AM
  22. tk-093's Avatar
    If your camera is going to stick out anyway.. just make the entire device that thick... You're almost forcing me too buy a case since I'm paranoid I'm going to ding up the camera if I ever lay it on its back anyway...

    This thinness race is causing issues.
    10-12-2016 10:03 AM
  23. daiwolf's Avatar
    ^this^!
    I agree 100 %
    10-12-2016 11:05 AM
  24. maf113's Avatar
    With the passing of a fantastic device, the Samsung Galaxy Note 7, also known as just the Note 7, I ask for a moment of silence.
    The Note 7 started out of the gate with a burst of speed only to quickly burn out. A torch in an othwise dark world, the Note 7 blazed a path and burned brightly. It was a short life indeed but we can all admit that the Note 7 went out in a blaze of glory. It's illumination will be missed by many.
    Rest in peace Note 7.
    Attached Thumbnails Galaxy Note 7′s unfortunate demise reportedly caused by new battery flaw...-881.jpg  
    10-12-2016 11:27 AM
  25. rushmore's Avatar
    The corner thing does not add up. All failures so far pictured have shown a center area ignite point in the battery. This is typical of what Samsung published. A battery production issue and not a device assembly issue.
    dejanh likes this.
    10-12-2016 11:28 AM
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