08-29-2017 05:54 PM
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  1. srgonu's Avatar
    This is the first time Samsung released unlocked version in US on the first day of pre-order. Is there an advantage buying unlocked version? Can we expect better battery life (no carrier bloat ware) and updates for a longer time?
    08-26-2017 02:02 PM
  2. SpookDroid's Avatar
    Not really... Less bloatware, yes, but updatewise, might even be worse. Historically, US Carriers (not all of them, obviously) have released security patches before they hit the US Unlocked version.
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    08-26-2017 03:27 PM
  3. dpham00's Avatar
    Advantage is it's unlocked and works on all USA carriers. It doesn't have carrier additions. Battery life depends... If you are in an area of very weak signal then carrier model can use wfc assuming you have wifi, unlocked model can't and might have a significant battery drain. You can disable virtually any app with package disabler

    Disadvantage is that it has limitations over the carrier models, historically slower updates, carriers would provide limited support for connectivity issues, features like wfc might not work, you won't be able to get a replacement sent out next day, you might not be able to get carrier issuance
    Laura Knotek and Dr Claw like this.
    08-26-2017 03:37 PM
  4. SpaceJamzz's Avatar
    For ATT, are there other features that will not work for unlocked versions? Visual Voice mail, Video calling, etc??
    08-26-2017 07:12 PM
  5. amtrucker22's Avatar
    Isn't resale on the 'unlocked' version better then one that is associated with Verizon?
    08-26-2017 08:05 PM
  6. nizmoz's Avatar
    Not really... Less bloatware, yes, but updatewise, might even be worse. Historically, US Carriers (not all of them, obviously) have released security patches before they hit the US Unlocked version.
    No wifi or volte calling. No hd voice. I canceled my unlock and got the AT&T version because of the hd voice.

    Many threads like this.

    https://forums.att.com/t5/Data-Messa...8/td-p/5178165
    justin1578 likes this.
    08-26-2017 08:18 PM
  7. nizmoz's Avatar
    Isn't resale on the 'unlocked' version better then one that is associated with Verizon?
    Not really. Compare at swappa.com.
    08-26-2017 08:19 PM
  8. Blues Fan's Avatar
    I might consider the unlocked version for the Note 9 if Samsung continues to update the s8 and Note 8 unlocked version in a timely matter.
    08-26-2017 08:40 PM
  9. cert15z's Avatar
    I bought the S8+ for TMO direct from Samsung. I had some problems getting the phone unlocked for a trip I was going to take. after about 2 weeks of calling customer service I was finally able to get it unlocked. This time am going to try the unlocked Note 8, so I don't have to go through that hassle again.
    08-27-2017 12:21 AM
  10. KupKrazy's Avatar
    I was going to get the unlocked but decided to go with AT&T branded because of the Wifi calling since service is spotty for me sometimes and Wifi calling helps. It does **** me off that I have to do this because of AT&T. Oh, well. That being said - since the phone is paid for - isn't AT&T obligated to unlock the phone for you upon request soon after release? Doesn't help if you're trying to use that phone on Verizon, though, since it won't have CDMA. Ugh...
    08-27-2017 04:52 AM
  11. dpham00's Avatar
    I was going to get the unlocked but decided to go with AT&T branded because of the Wifi calling since service is spotty for me sometimes and Wifi calling helps. It does **** me off that I have to do this because of AT&T. Oh, well. That being said - since the phone is paid for - isn't AT&T obligated to unlock the phone for you upon request soon after release? Doesn't help if you're trying to use that phone on Verizon, though, since it won't have CDMA. Ugh...
    It actually does have CDMA physically but disabled by software. Most likely it will be like the s8 and you can flash the unlocked software or Verizon software to get it to work on Verizon.


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    08-27-2017 07:15 AM
  12. KupKrazy's Avatar
    It actually does have CDMA physically but disabled by software. Most likely it will be like the s8 and you can flash the unlocked software or Verizon software to get it to work on Verizon.


    https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...22a749f9f3.jpg
    Wow, thanks for the heads up!!
    08-27-2017 10:24 AM
  13. Airmaxxx's Avatar
    In theory I should be able to take my active AT&T SIM out of my S7 edge (completely paid off) and place it in my unlocked Note 8 for service, right? Does AT&T charge an activation fee if I do this? Does AT&T need to get involved at all when I swap the SIM? Thanks.
    08-27-2017 11:29 AM
  14. Dr Claw's Avatar
    In theory I should be able to take my active AT&T SIM out of my S7 edge (completely paid off) and place it in my unlocked Note 8 for service, right? Does AT&T charge an activation fee if I do this? Does AT&T need to get involved at all when I swap the SIM? Thanks.
    It's actually better to have your SIM already activated as you have; just pop it in the unlocked Note8 and it will work immediately. Activating a new SIM may prove more difficult.
    08-27-2017 12:03 PM
  15. Fr0gburp3r's Avatar
    You all are saying unlocked versions get slower updates? I don't understand this concept because when Samsung sends out an update, the carrier has to make adjustments to the updates specific to the carriers services before its sent out to their customers devices which takes more time. If it's sent out directly from Samsung to unlocked phones without the carriers touching them, wouldn't unlocked devices get them faster because it skips the carriers?
    08-27-2017 01:18 PM
  16. SpookDroid's Avatar
    You all are saying unlocked versions get slower updates? I don't understand this concept because when Samsung sends out an update, the carrier has to make adjustments to the updates specific to the carriers services before its sent out to their customers devices which takes more time. If it's sent out directly from Samsung to unlocked phones without the carriers touching them, wouldn't unlocked devices get them faster because it skips the carriers?
    That's the theory, and like in Physics, it assumes 'perfect conditions'. Reality is another thing.

    Yes, carriers need to adjust their updates after they receive the code from Samsung (and that's gonna change with Android's new update scheme, but that's a conversation for another thread), BUT Samsung also rolls out the update slowly, so a few regions might get it first (and carriers do get it before it's released onto devices if not by much). HISTORICALLY though, the American unlocked version has not been part of the first batch of Samsung's staggered release and it has received the update after some carrier versions (most notably T-Mobile) begin getting theirs.
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    08-27-2017 02:11 PM
  17. steelers1's Avatar
    I was all set to get the unlocked version but is it correct that certain features like WiFi calling will not work on Verizon?
    08-27-2017 09:29 PM
  18. bhatech's Avatar
    S8 unlocked version worked great on T-Mobile and I have bunch of other unlocked phones which works great on T-Mobile. Personally I'm so happy that Samsung finally gave the option to buy the non carrier version at launch. Pre-ordered it and carrier (T-Mobile) version was not even a consideration for me when non carrier version is available. My carrier for me is only for network and not for meddling with OEM firmware.
    08-27-2017 10:16 PM
  19. Ca_lvn's Avatar
    Once unlocked never go back, at least for me
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    08-27-2017 10:18 PM
  20. eshropshire's Avatar
    I was all set to get the unlocked version but is it correct that certain features like WiFi calling will not work on Verizon?
    Yes you do not get any of the advanced calling features on non Verizon phones. Also, all Verizon phones are unlocked.
    08-27-2017 10:31 PM
  21. bhatech's Avatar
    Yes you do not get any of the advanced calling features on non Verizon phones. Also, all Verizon phones are unlocked.
    I can't speak for everyone but mostly I buy unlocked version not because they are sim unlocked but because they have non carrier firmware the way OEM intended the software to be.
    CTREV21 likes this.
    08-27-2017 10:35 PM
  22. srgonu's Avatar
    S8 unlocked version worked great on T-Mobile and I have bunch of other unlocked phones which works great on T-Mobile. Personally I'm so happy that Samsung finally gave the option to buy the non carrier version at launch. Pre-ordered it and carrier (T-Mobile) version was not even a consideration for me when non carrier version is available. My carrier for me is only for network and not for meddling with OEM firmware.
    Does your S8 support dual SIM? I read unlocked phones support dual SIM but not carrier versions. Is this true?
    08-28-2017 11:44 AM
  23. bhatech's Avatar
    Does your S8 support dual SIM? I read unlocked phones support dual SIM but not carrier versions. Is this true?
    No US unlocked version is not dual SIM. Generally dual SIM is not a thing here in US.

    There is dual SIM unlocked version but that's not sold officially in US. You can find third party sellers in Amazon, eBay or other sites who do sell it.
    SpookDroid likes this.
    08-28-2017 12:05 PM
  24. srgonu's Avatar
    No US unlocked version is not dual SIM. Generally dual SIM is not a thing here in US.

    There is dual SIM unlocked version but that's not sold officially in US. You can find third party sellers in Amazon, eBay or other sites who do sell it.
    Thanks, you are correct. I checked with Samsung support and they confirmed that there is no dual SIM support in unlocked versions.
    08-28-2017 06:55 PM
  25. eshropshire's Avatar
    I can't speak for everyone but mostly I buy unlocked version not because they are sim unlocked but because they have non carrier firmware the way OEM intended the software to be.
    Verizon phones are SIM unlocked.
    08-28-2017 07:10 PM
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