08-30-2018 06:01 PM
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  1. Echoes's Avatar
    I know this is an age-old topic, but the responses and experiences can change quickly with new devices and new policies being in place.

    I went ahead and ordered an unlocked Note 9 to be used with Verizon, but I've never had an unlocked device before and am wondering if I should cancel my order and get the branded one.

    People who have had unlocked devices (and specifically, recent Samsung unlocked devices), what have been your experiences with the ups and down of having an unlocked phone? Missing features, timeliness of updates, etc.?
    08-15-2018 05:23 PM
  2. amyf27's Avatar
    I currently use a factory unlocked note 8 on sprint. I preordered the factory unlocked note 9 128 gb and will use on sprint too.

    I love the unlocked version. No silly sprint apps that are wasteful and cdont apply to me. I load what I want on it. I can move it to another carrier if I choose.
    08-15-2018 05:36 PM
  3. djrakowski's Avatar
    I love the unlocked version. No silly sprint apps that are wasteful and cdont apply to me. I load what I want on it. I can move it to another carrier if I choose.
    Exactly... I always disable T-Mobile’s apps when I purchase Android phones from them, and now I won’t have to worry about that with the unlocked version.
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    08-15-2018 05:53 PM
  4. Lobwedgephil's Avatar
    Your updates are typically slower then carriers, and you will likely miss a few advanced calling features on Verizon.
    08-15-2018 05:55 PM
  5. amyf27's Avatar
    I guess it depends on what you need from your phone and the carrier and what you use it for. I use my quite a bit for work and of course for home and I don't feel like I'm missing anything
    Gray Area likes this.
    08-15-2018 05:58 PM
  6. perdant01's Avatar
    I have an unlocked s9+ that I use with Verizon everything works just fine, with the exception of wifi calling. visual voicemail VOlte etc all work. I have the unlocked note 9 on pre order.
    08-15-2018 06:15 PM
  7. cvgjava's Avatar
    I'm currently using note 8 unlocked on att. ordered note 9 ATT. on unlocked , at least with att, you lose HD calling, wifi calling visual voicemail and enhanced messages. to me the HD calling is most relevant as there is a noticeable quality difference and I spend lots of time on calls. I'm happy with att and no plans to change. I will disable the att bloatware. security updates have been much slower vs my att branded S8 for personal use. I'm one person but outside of resale (which can be a big factor) I'd not get another unlocked model.
    LuckiestLiz and Echoes like this.
    08-15-2018 06:27 PM
  8. Echoes's Avatar
    Cheers everyone, thanks for the feedback! Still more or less on the fence, but thinking of sticking with the unlocked one. I may leave Verizon soon, and I feel like you can use 3rd party apps to fill in most of the missing features. Seems to be very carrier-dependent as far as whether going unlocked makes sense.

    I have an unlocked s9+ that I use with Verizon everything works just fine, with the exception of wifi calling. visual voicemail VOlte etc all work. I have the unlocked note 9 on pre order.
    Good to know. How about HD calling and mobile hotspot? Do those work as well?
    08-16-2018 07:54 AM
  9. Thefalcon93's Avatar
    Mobile hotspot worked fine on my unlocked S9+ on Verizon. HD calling as well.
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    08-16-2018 08:07 AM
  10. Blues Fan's Avatar
    I went with unlocked because I'm on tmobile and hopefully gets me better resale and trade in value being unlocked. I don't have to worry about missing wifi calling.

    One thing to note is when I bought the unlocked V20 and loaded up my SIM card it downloaded the Tmobile bloat apps.
    08-16-2018 08:40 AM
  11. bhatech's Avatar
    That's not how it works on Samsung, at least if I recall correctly on the unlocked US S9+ it didn't download any T-Mobile apps when I inserted T-Mobile sim.
    I went with unlocked because I'm on tmobile and hopefully gets me better resale and trade in value being unlocked. I don't have to worry about missing wifi calling.

    One thing to note is when I bought the unlocked V20 and loaded up my SIM card it downloaded the Tmobile bloat apps.
    08-16-2018 09:00 AM
  12. anon(762744)'s Avatar
    That's not how it works on Samsung, at least if I recall correctly on the unlocked US S9+ it didn't download any T-Mobile apps when I inserted T-Mobile sim.
    This is correct, I had the Factory Unlocked Note 8 and putting a Verizon SIM card only put you on the Verizon network. I didn't have any Verizon bloatware, luckily I could just download them on the playstore but the Visual Voicemail app couldn't be downloaded so I had to download some third party Voicemail application. If you think you will stay on T-Mobile I would just buy the T-Mobile version to ensure everything will work properly.
    08-16-2018 09:14 AM
  13. bhatech's Avatar
    This is correct, I had the Factory Unlocked Note 8 and putting a Verizon SIM card only put you on the Verizon network. I didn't have any Verizon bloatware, luckily I could just download them on the playstore but the Visual Voicemail app couldn't be downloaded so I had to download some third party Voicemail application. If you think you will stay on T-Mobile I would just buy the T-Mobile version to ensure everything will work properly.
    Unlocked phones works great on T-Mobile, all carrier features including WiFi calling and VoLTE work out of the box with no issues and without having do anything. Main reason I stick with T-Mobile along with great prices on unlimited data obviously. I hate carrier specific phones with carrier firmware and I'll always stay with the carrier which is most compatible with unlocked phones or bring your own phone. At this moment T-Mobile is best for bring your own phone and I take my business there. Obviously network is important but where I stay all carriers have great network.
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    08-16-2018 09:18 AM
  14. intense55's Avatar
    If you go with an unlocked phone, you will not be able to travel and keep your number with Verizon. One of the requirements with Verizon for using their travel plan is that it must be a Verizon phone. Verizon provisioned phones like my Blackberry Keyone would not work while traveling, at least with my grandfathered unlimited data plan. My Verizon Iphone on the same plan worked fine.

    I too wanted an unlocked version (hate messages +) but the fact that people would not be able to reach me when i was overseas was not worth it. I ordered the Verizon version.
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    08-16-2018 09:58 PM
  15. Echoes's Avatar
    If you go with an unlocked phone, you will not be able to travel and keep your number with Verizon. One of the requirements with Verizon for using their travel plan is that it must be a Verizon phone. Verizon provisioned phones like my Blackberry Keyone would not work while traveling, at least with my grandfathered unlimited data plan. My Verizon Iphone on the same plan worked fine.

    I too wanted an unlocked version (hate messages +) but the fact that people would not be able to reach me when i was overseas was not worth it. I ordered the Verizon version.
    That's useful information. I wasn't aware you couldn't use Verizon's international plan overseas. On the bright side, with an unlocked phone you can just use an international sim card, which is what I plan to do.
    08-16-2018 10:56 PM
  16. worldsoutro's Avatar
    what is the lte bands for the unlocked version?
    08-16-2018 11:39 PM
  17. Joshua_Muldoon's Avatar
    Could you still use your device in Mexico and Canada? I visit Canada at least once a year, and if Verizon doesn't let you use an unlocked phone in that country, I would have to get the Verizon model. I'd purchase it through Samsung this time because they actually let you upgrade every year unlike Verizon.
    08-17-2018 07:53 AM
  18. JREwing's Avatar
    I played it safe this time by getting a pair of tmobile versions simply to make sure I was getting Band 71. Trading two unlocked Note 8's.
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    08-17-2018 08:07 AM
  19. Echoes's Avatar
    what is the lte bands for the unlocked version?
    I had the same question. Wondering if I'll be missing any bands when running on Verizon. Are there bands missing? Is there going to be any real-world speed loss on LTE?
    08-17-2018 08:37 AM
  20. mcross72's Avatar
    Hello, I have an unlocked Note 8 on Tmobile now but recently came from Sprint with my Note 8. It came from Samsung directly. As other posters reported. I didn't get any carrier bloat when connecting with Tmobile or Sprint. With Tmobile everything works as usual. Wifi calling which is most important to me, & visual voicemail. Where with spring non of the standard apps worked. No wifi calling & no visual voicemail for Spring. I'm going to be bumbed if the 600mhz extended range doesn't work on the Note 9 unlocked because I pre-ordered the 128 unlocked version as well.
    08-17-2018 08:46 AM
  21. perdant01's Avatar
    Yes to both
    08-17-2018 09:08 AM
  22. worldsoutro's Avatar
    I looked at the Samsung site and didn't see a list of LTE bands for the unlocked version
    08-17-2018 09:18 AM
  23. Gary02468's Avatar
    Yes to both
    Yes to both what? You don't say whose questions you're responding to.
    SR45 likes this.
    08-17-2018 09:46 AM
  24. Echoes's Avatar
    Yes to both what? You don't say whose questions you're responding to.
    Pretty sure he was responding to my earlier question to him.

    "Good to know. How about HD calling and mobile hotspot? Do those work as well?"
    08-17-2018 09:46 AM
  25. Panther6834's Avatar
    Personally, I used to always get the carrier version, but I got tired of all the bloatware Verizon has added, so I switched to the unlocked version. In doing so, yes, one loses some things, such as Verizon's Visual Voicemail, but you also gain valuable tools, such as Samsung Cloud (which Verizon blocks in the carrier-branded version). As for the Visual Voicemail loss, that's easily "corrected" through the use of Google Voice. Regarding updates (carrier vs unlocked), it's "six of one, half dozen of the other"...in other words, it's always been a toss-up, and will always be a toss-up, as to which will get updates first.

    To those wondering (worrying?) about bands, I can't speak for the Exynos-powered handsets, butt, as for the Snapdragon-powered handsets, they should contain ALL U.S. bands. Technically, when it comes to the hardware, even the carrier-branded versions contain all U.S. bands...it's just that each carrier has the bands not used by that carrier blocked...but they're still contained within the chipset. That's why you can, for example, take an AT&T branded unit, and flash it (or have it flashed) with Verizon's firmware, and it then works on the Verizon network.
    Echoes and yarnsrj like this.
    08-17-2018 10:33 AM
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