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  1. Gary02468's Avatar
    i will never put it in water just because "other people do it".
    No one proposed that as a reason for putting the phone in water. A much better reason is that it has an IP68 rating. That's much more specific than either "proof" or "resistant". It means the phone is able to withstand immersion in water to a depth of 1.5 meters for 30 minutes, without damage.

    I just know that if my phone accidentally falls in a puddle [...] it'll be okay
    Not really. Falling in a puddle can cause both impact damage and water damage, because IP68 only refers to a device that's calmly submerged. If it's moving at high velocity instead, the water pressure against it is increased, potentially beyond the IP68 limit.
    02-11-2019 06:55 AM
  2. Morty2264's Avatar
    I will never intentionally put my $1200 device in water. it's water RESISTANT not water PROOF. Two different meanings. I just know that if my phone accidentally falls in a puddle or gets wet from rain it'll be okay. but i will never put it in water just because "other people do it".
    To me, water resistant is more along the lines of what you are saying - when it's an accidental drop, some rain splashes, etc.
    02-11-2019 08:20 AM
  3. Iva_LadyDiCaprio98's Avatar
    To me, water resistant is more along the lines of what you are saying - when it's an accidental drop, some rain splashes, etc.
    Exactly - this phone has never been advertised as waterproof, it's been advertised as water resistant which is a different meaning. So people can dunk their phones in water all they want but there is no warranty for water damaged devices. Says it clear as day in the warranty agreement so people need to be more careful
    02-11-2019 09:10 AM
  4. Gary02468's Avatar
    Exactly - this phone has never been advertised as waterproof, it's been advertised as water resistant which is a different meaning. l
    No, it's been advertised as IP68, which is very specific.
    02-11-2019 09:52 AM
  5. mustang7757's Avatar
    No, it's been advertised as IP68, which is very specific.
    That ip68 rating been tested in a controlled lab with fresh water, no pools with chemicals or ocean with salt as those chemicals or salt can damage the gaskets
    02-11-2019 09:56 AM
  6. bassplayrguy's Avatar
    The same ppl that will be pissed at Samsung for not covering the repairs under warranty when it clearly States water damage isn't covered.
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    02-11-2019 04:36 PM
  7. Gary02468's Avatar
    The same ppl that will be pissed at Samsung for not covering the repairs under warranty when it clearly States water damage isn't covered.
    A company is legally required to take responsibility if their product has a defect that keeps it from working as advertised. They can't shirk their responsibility just by declaring that they won't cover it.
    02-11-2019 06:42 PM
  8. Mooncatt's Avatar
    A company is legally required to take responsibility if their product has a defect that keeps it from working as advertised. They can't shirk their responsibility just by declaring that they won't cover it.
    Again, the phone is not marketed as waterproof and is only water resistant under a specific test condition. It is not designed or meant to be regularly used underwater in wildly variable conditions, thus no warranty coverage for water damage. If you take it into a pool and the chlorine eats away the seals, drop it in a river and water is forced past the seals due to the current, or any other number of situations that result in water damage is NOT a defect as they exceed the design/test limitations.

    It's like how a car is designed to handle bumps with its suspension system. That doesn't mean you can rallycross with it and claim warranty when you tear it up because the suspension failed. You can consider IP ratings almost as nothing more than marketing gimmicks when it comes to phones. The rating has meaning, but it is not all encompassing as some believe.
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    02-11-2019 07:12 PM
  9. Gary02468's Avatar
    Again, the phone is not marketed as waterproof.
    Correct. As I said, it's marketed as IP68.

    I also agree, and already stated above, that it's not advertised as chlorine-resistant, salt-resistant, etc. But if you do use it as advertised, it has to perform as advertised, or else it's Samsung's responsibility, whether their warranty says so or not.
    02-11-2019 07:18 PM
  10. Mooncatt's Avatar
    Correct. As I said, it's marketed as IP68.

    I also agree, and already stated above, that it's not advertised as chlorine-resistant, salt-resistant, etc. But if you do use it as advertised, it has to perform as advertised, or else it's Samsung's responsibility, whether their warranty says so or not.
    Perhaps a misunderstanding on my part, but the post you quoted and how you worded your response sounded like you were claiming water damage from use in a pool and other situations should be covered under warranty.
    02-11-2019 07:28 PM
  11. Gary02468's Avatar
    Perhaps a misunderstanding on my part, but the post you quoted and how you worded your response sounded like you were claiming water damage from use in a pool and other situations should be covered under warranty.
    No, but sorry if my wording was unclear.
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    02-11-2019 07:30 PM
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