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  1. KupKrazy's Avatar
    In early articles, they said they were providing the space at the top to move the relevant information closer to the bottom, to make it easier for one-handed operation! It does that, even if it does look like wasted space!
    So, the extra space is supposed to make it easier to flick the notifications with my thumb perhaps? It looks so spread out but I guess I can see that. Don't think I had an issue with that before but I guess I'll get used to it. I feel like I have to scroll through more to see them all.
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    02-03-2019 09:19 AM
  2. JHBThree's Avatar
    A double tap vs 2 swipes vs a swipe and tap. Is it really that different?

    Anyway as I said, there is a hidden double swipe action on the Samsung gestures. Force touch over home area then double swipe horizontally towards recent button.
    Yes, it is different. On stock gestures all you have to do is move the 'pill'. Samsung's gestures don't have anything like it.
    02-03-2019 12:28 PM
  3. KupKrazy's Avatar
    After using it more - so far, the camera issues do seem to be fixed, but will hold out on that for a few more weeks to make sure it doesn't come back. Also - the battery life has definitely improved for me. I am pleased with it thus far - probably because the camera hasn't crashed..... yet.
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    02-03-2019 11:16 PM
  4. Johnston212's Avatar
    So I have had the update for at least a day. I'm still getting used to it, but here are some of my main criticisms.

    Moving the notification clock is a bad idea and should have the option to fix it.

    Space wasting in apps. Apps like the stock messaging app now has a gap at the at the top that says... Messages...

    Stock email and messaging apps are not working with themes anymore.

    Dark Mode does not work with themes, which makes it pretty useless

    Settings are a bit too dumbed down for my tastes
    02-04-2019 02:59 AM
  5. Jewels81's Avatar
    So I have had the update for at least a day. I'm still getting used to it, but here are some of my main criticisms.

    Moving the notification clock is a bad idea and should have the option to fix it.

    Space wasting in apps. Apps like the stock messaging app now has a gap at the at the top that says... Messages...

    Stock email and messaging apps are not working with themes anymore.

    Dark Mode does not work with themes, which makes it pretty useless

    Settings are a bit too dumbed down for my tastes
    What do you like about it? Asking cause I don't have pie yet.
    02-04-2019 03:09 AM
  6. Johnston212's Avatar
    What do you like about it? Asking cause I don't have pie yet.
    Um... Well, the lock screen notification shortcuts versus the whole screen being cramped. That's about the only thing that I can think of.

    In all honesty, if I could go back to Oreo, I would in a heartbeat. The theme store is completely worthless now that it doesn't work in most, if not all, stock apps. Auto brightness also doesn't work properly.

    Enjoy the wait while you can. I wish I had known how bad this was before I updated.
    02-04-2019 03:41 AM
  7. Johnston212's Avatar
    What do you like about it? Asking cause I don't have pie yet.
    Oh, the recent apps screen is kind of cool
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    02-04-2019 03:42 AM
  8. Jewels81's Avatar
    Um... Well, the lock screen notification shortcuts versus the whole screen being cramped. That's about the only thing that I can think of.

    In all honesty, if I could go back to Oreo, I would in a heartbeat. The theme store is completely worthless now that it doesn't work in most, if not all, stock apps. Auto brightness also doesn't work properly.

    Enjoy the wait while you can. I wish I had known how bad this was before I updated.
    Oh. Ok. Thanks for your thoughts and response. Oreo has been the best one so far that I've used.
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    02-04-2019 04:00 AM
  9. Johnston212's Avatar
    Oh. Ok. Thanks for your thoughts and response. Oreo has been the best one so far that I've used.
    It still is
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    02-04-2019 04:02 AM
  10. Brad Bilger's Avatar
    So I have had the update for at least a day. I'm still getting used to it, but here are some of my main criticisms.

    Moving the notification clock is a bad idea and should have the option to fix it.

    Space wasting in apps. Apps like the stock messaging app now has a gap at the at the top that says... Messages...

    Stock email and messaging apps are not working with themes anymore.

    Dark Mode does not work with themes, which makes it pretty useless

    Settings are a bit too dumbed down for my tastes
    Well, I've had mine about 2 days now and I like it.

    Moving the clock from one side to the other for me is not a big issue. It's still there, just moved.

    Open space at the top of the messages app and settings... No biggie for me.

    Stock email and messaging app not working with themes? Not an issue for me. I don't use someone else's theme. Everyone that I've seen in the store looks like bird droppings to me. I prefer to use my own wallpaper and my own arraignments.

    Dark mode is totally NOT useless since I don't use prepackaged themes. Finally I got everything in dark mode without adopting someone else's "custom" theme.

    My only gripe so far is that they haven't fixed the disaster of removing the option of custom text message tones. A feature that existed prior to Oreo. Please, don't refer me to the fix listed online or using other apps since none of those work with group messages and require you to never delete old messages.
    02-04-2019 09:00 AM
  11. lcs101's Avatar
    I know what they're talking about and IMO it's first world problems. You still get two switch with two finger motions either way.
    Anyway, the on the stock gestures, Force touch on home button area, swipe to recents position, then back and swipe again still works for switching to previous.
    Um, we're in a thread about dislikes of software on a $1000 phone...of course it's first world problems. But this is the exact place to post them.
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    02-04-2019 09:03 AM
  12. Johnston212's Avatar
    Well, I've had mine about 2 days now and I like it.

    Moving the clock from one side to the other for me is not a big issue. It's still there, just moved.

    Open space at the top of the messages app and settings... No biggie for me.

    Stock email and messaging app not working with themes? Not an issue for me. I don't use someone else's theme. Everyone that I've seen in the store looks like bird droppings to me. I prefer to use my own wallpaper and my own arraignments.

    Dark mode is totally NOT useless since I don't use prepackaged themes. Finally I got everything in dark mode without adopting someone else's "custom" theme.

    My only gripe so far is that they haven't fixed the disaster of removing the option of custom text message tones. A feature that existed prior to Oreo. Please, don't refer me to the fix listed online or using other apps since none of those work with group messages and require you to never delete old messages.
    Cool, glad that it works for you. I have found that the Samsung Theme Store to be the best themeing experience I have had with an android device. The fact that Samsung's One UI does not work properly with Samsung's own Theme Store makes no sense.
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    02-04-2019 12:37 PM
  13. Brad Bilger's Avatar
    Cool, glad that it works for you. I have found that the Samsung Theme Store to be the best themeing experience I have had with an android device. The fact that Samsung's One UI does not work properly with Samsung's own Theme Store makes no sense.
    Niether does altering the Contacts app so that there is no provision for Individual Text messages tones like there is for Individual Ring tones. Something that has existed since Lollipop and for some reason has gone missing in Oreo and now Pie.
    sibber likes this.
    02-04-2019 01:52 PM
  14. sweetypie31's Avatar
    I just want them to update good lock. I miss having my screenshot button on my navigation bar. With the help of swift installer I was able to get rid of that blue icons on the switches ( the bar before the notification shade. Not sure what it's called lol) . Other than that everything is fine with the update.
    02-04-2019 02:16 PM
  15. sibber's Avatar
    Let us know what icon pack you find. Hate the Pie OS one
    02-07-2019 10:43 AM
  16. sibber's Avatar
    Samsung galaxy 9
    Hate that the alphabet tabs is gone from contacts - made navigation so much easier.
    And the icons are an abomination - 6th grade design
    Add to that - my alarms only sound for 1 minute. wading through settings trying to fix it. have already dealt with battery & DND
    02-07-2019 10:51 AM
  17. Bo21's Avatar
    Swipe up in contacts and alphabet tabs appear.
    Samsung galaxy 9
    Hate that the alphabet tabs is gone from contacts - made navigation so much easier.
    And the icons are an abomination - 6th grade design
    Add to that - my alarms only sound for 1 minute. wading through settings trying to fix it. have already dealt with battery & DND
    02-07-2019 11:18 AM
  18. Neal Smith's Avatar
    anyone else hate that substratum and goodlock are not working anymore?
    02-07-2019 11:40 AM
  19. robinhelenehebert's Avatar
    I'm using Smart Launcher 5 and gestures with that. I have custom wallpaper and icons and it's all good. Phone is fast...battery lasts all day. it's perfection.
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    02-07-2019 12:02 PM
  20. Johnston212's Avatar
    anyone else hate that substratum and goodlock are not working anymore?
    I don't even know what those are
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    02-07-2019 12:42 PM
  21. mustang7757's Avatar
    anyone else hate that substratum and goodlock are not working anymore?
    I've used both , do miss them from time to time but with pie night mode and theme store to change icons I've been ok with that for now .
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    02-07-2019 12:52 PM
  22. V J's Avatar
    Niether does altering the Contacts app so that there is no provision for Individual Text messages tones like there is for Individual Ring tones. Something that has existed since Lollipop and for some reason has gone missing in Oreo and now Pie.
    There is definitely custom message tones in Oreo/Pie. Go to Messages, select the person who's message you want a tone for, click the 3 dots menu on the upper right corner and toggle "custom notifications" on, pick a message tone and done.
    02-07-2019 01:08 PM
  23. Fit24's Avatar
    I don't even know what those are
    Substratum is a theming engine and Good Lock is a Samsung customization app.
    02-07-2019 01:20 PM
  24. Brad Bilger's Avatar
    There is definitely custom message tones in Oreo/Pie. Go to Messages, select the person who's message you want a tone for, click the 3 dots menu on the upper right corner and toggle "custom notifications" on, pick a message tone and done.
    Sigh.... here we go again...

    It doesn't work with GROUP messages. Before, you assigned a text tone to the individual though the contacts app, just like you can with the phone ringer tones. So I could assign Tone A for Person A and Tone B for Person B and Tone C for Person C. During a group/team message, when Person A would send a message, I would get Tone A. Person B would add something, and I would get Person B’s Tone.
    NOW however, you assign the tone to the THREAD and not the PERSON. There is no individual tones for the PERSON.
    The disadvantage is you must SAVE the ENTIRE message thread. If you delete the thread, there goes your customization for that thread/person. The present system/function does NO good for Group conversations which is about 70% of my conversations. I use group messages to communicate with my family. I use to to communicate with my friends. I use it to communicate with my co-workers.
    For example. I get messages from my pharmacy from a computer about my prescriptions. I save them as a contact and assigned a quiet, simple beep. I don’t have to save my conversations with a computer. I can tell who it is and know that I can take my time and respond to them later. I've saved my alarm company as a contact and assigned a NASTY tone to them so that I know it's an emergency. My wife and two daughters all have separate tones. During a one-on-one conversation, I know who it is before I check my phone. But say my oldest daughter sends a group message. Before, I knew who it was right then. Now I get my default tone, unless I assign ANOTHER tone to that group and never every delete it.
    Yes, I know about the three dots and assigning tones to the THREAD and not to the Person. I would like to have the personalized tones assigned back to the PERSON and Not the Thread. Just like it's been since Lollipop. Assigning the tone to the thread is not like what we had before and I have no idea why they eliminated that function.
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    02-07-2019 05:59 PM
  25. lcs101's Avatar
    Biggest like is battery life. Not a a heavy user, but went from 30-40% at the end of a typical day to 50-60%
    02-09-2019 08:31 AM
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