02-14-2019 12:41 PM
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  1. B. Diddy's Avatar
    Nav should still work, because it relies on GPS. It'll know which direction you're going based on the accelerometer. The only problem it'll have is knowing which direction you're facing if you're standing still, since that would rely on a compass: https://android.stackexchange.com/qu...you-are-facing
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    02-11-2019 04:42 PM
  2. jimd1050's Avatar
    Boy, there's a couple of idiots over there, hugh Brad?
    02-11-2019 05:10 PM
  3. zoggybottom's Avatar
    Thanks!
    02-11-2019 05:25 PM
  4. jimd1050's Avatar
    Thanks!
    ...aimed at the couple of guys ranting, not wanting to help and immediately wanting a new phone!
    02-11-2019 10:04 PM
  5. mustang7757's Avatar
    why isn't the compass in the edge panel a widget that we can put on home screen? Would a compass from play store be a better option?
    02-11-2019 11:50 PM
  6. B. Diddy's Avatar
    ...aimed at the couple of guys ranting, not wanting to help and immediately wanting a new phone!
    Don't worry, I'm pretty sure zoggybottom was saying thanks to me for posting my link.
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    02-11-2019 11:54 PM
  7. zoggybottom's Avatar
    Don't worry, I'm pretty sure zoggybottom was saying thanks to me for posting my link.
    Yes! Sorry that wasn't clearer.
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    02-12-2019 07:48 AM
  8. Turp386's Avatar
    Now all of a sudden, all my compasses are working! For how long I don't know. I wonder if they snuck something in with the security update. Would there be a changelog for what they sent out?
    02-13-2019 10:33 AM
  9. Gary02468's Avatar
    Now all of a sudden, all my compasses are working! For how long I don't know. I wonder if they snuck something in with the security update. Would there be a changelog for what they sent out?
    What is your current firmware version?
    02-13-2019 01:16 PM
  10. Turp386's Avatar
    PPR1.180610.011.N960USQU1CSAA . i believe that's it, build number? Anyhow mine has not been working just like everyone else's. Out of the blue I tried it this morning and all my apps with compasses are working and none of them worked since the update. The only things that were done to this phone since last night was I installed Night Sight and there was a security update, nothing else. Go figure
    02-13-2019 02:40 PM
  11. jhimmel's Avatar
    Interesting. They snuck in a fix?
    02-13-2019 06:04 PM
  12. jimd1050's Avatar
    Interesting. They snuck in a fix?
    Nope! I tried mine right after I read the post and sure enough, working! I sat there staring at it thinking, how the heck - all of a sudden, it slowly starts creeping clockwise and stops at due east! It stayed North for about 90 seconds, maybe 2 minutes! I have not seen an update either (AT&T)
    02-13-2019 07:36 PM
  13. B. Diddy's Avatar
    02-13-2019 07:44 PM
  14. jimd1050's Avatar
    compass-dunno.jpg

    We were fine before Pie/One UI! (at least I was)
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    02-14-2019 12:27 AM
  15. B. Diddy's Avatar
    It's all Samsung's fault -- they're causing the poles to flip.
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    02-14-2019 12:50 AM
  16. Turp386's Avatar
    Short lived, the magnetic storm is back. Compass is not working again
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    02-14-2019 10:08 AM
  17. mustang7757's Avatar
    Short lived, the magnetic storm is back. Compass is not working again
    Probably come in next security update some fixes.
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    02-14-2019 10:13 AM
  18. Gary02468's Avatar
    Probably come in next security update some fixes.
    Security updates have nothing to do with the device's sensors. The compass may or may not be fixed in the next firmware update, which may or may not also include a security update.

    But it took Samsung five months to fix the camera-freeze problem that many users were having, so it's not at all clear that they will promptly fix the compass.
    02-14-2019 11:02 AM
  19. mustang7757's Avatar
    Security updates have nothing to do with the device's sensors. The compass may or may not be fixed in the next firmware update, which may or may not also include a security update.

    But it took Samsung five months to fix the camera-freeze problem that many users were having, so it's not at all clear that they will promptly fix the compass.
    Security updates do come with fixes
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    02-14-2019 11:04 AM
  20. Gary02468's Avatar
    Security updates do come with fixes
    No. Firmware updates may come with fixes, and may also come with security updates, but those are two different things.

    ​You can find detailed, comprehensive lists of what's in Android and Samsung security updates here:
    https://source.android.com/security/...019-01-01.html
    and also here:
    https://security.samsungmobile.com/securityUpdate.smsb .

    If you read through those, you'll see that they describe nothing but security patches. Any other fixes are in a separate part of the firmware update, and are not part of the security update.
    02-14-2019 11:05 AM
  21. mustang7757's Avatar
    No. Firmware updates may come with fixes, and may also come with security updates, but those are two different things.

    ​You can find detailed, comprehensive lists of what's in Android and Samsung security updates here:
    https://source.android.com/security/...019-01-01.html
    and also here:
    https://security.samsungmobile.com/securityUpdate.smsb .

    If you read through those, you'll see that they describe nothing but security patches. Any other fixes are in a separate part of the firmware update, and are not part of the security update.
    December security patch for note 9 came with camera fixes
    Attached Thumbnails compass-1223.jpg  
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    02-14-2019 11:28 AM
  22. Gary02468's Avatar
    December security patch for note 9 came with camera fixes
    No. The ARL1 firmware update included both the camera fix and the December security patch, but those are two separate things.

    If you follow the links I sent, you can see everything that was in the December security patch. None of it has anything to do with the camera.
    02-14-2019 11:30 AM
  23. mustang7757's Avatar
    No. The ARL1 firmware update included both the camera fix and the December security patch, but those are two separate things.
    It came with security update..
    What do you mean?
    02-14-2019 11:31 AM
  24. mustang7757's Avatar
    Samsung updates are
    Security updates with other fixes
    Major OS updates
    02-14-2019 11:33 AM
  25. Gary02468's Avatar
    It came with security update..
    What do you mean?
    A firmware update sometimes includes feature fixes but no security update.

    A firmware update sometimes includes a security update but no feature fixes.

    A firmware update sometimes includes feature fixes and a security update.

    But the fixes and the security update are two separate things. They might both come in the same firmware update, or they might not.

    In the case of your screenshot, you're showing the ARL1 firmware update. It includes camera fixes, and also--completely separately--it includes the December security update. The camera fixes are not part of the security update.

    I think maybe you're mistakenly thinking of the whole firmware update as a security update. But it's not--a security update is just one part of a firmware update. And some firmware updates don't even include the security part--sometimes, a firmware update will be at the same patch level as the previous firmware.
    02-14-2019 11:34 AM
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