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  1. fthis f's Avatar
    So my last samsung phone had a led notification that would stay red even after the battery icon and text stated it was 100% charged. It wasn't until the led was green that you knew the phone was fully charged. With the s10, there is no such light indicator and it's a whole different phone and android version but I just want to make sure when the battery icon on this phone and the accompanying percentage text states 100%, that it is fully charged unlike my old phone.
    05-27-2020 01:17 PM
  2. SpookDroid's Avatar
    You can customize the indicator to show the percentage or to hide it. The S10 will also show it in the lock screen and, if active, in the AOD indicators when charging.
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    05-27-2020 02:59 PM
  3. mustang7757's Avatar
    So my last samsung phone had a led notification that would stay red even after the battery icon and text stated it was 100% charged. It wasn't until the led was green that you knew the phone was fully charged. With the s10, there is no such light indicator and it's a whole different phone and android version but I just want to make sure when the battery icon on this phone and the accompanying percentage text states 100%, that it is fully charged unlike my old phone.
    Your Saying no indication when plug into a charger?
    05-27-2020 04:17 PM
  4. fuzzylumpkin's Avatar
    If you look into how a lithium ion battery actually works, you'll find that "fully charged" is a bit more esoteric than you might think.

    Anyway, the amount of battery life you're talking about is negligible, if you're in a rush just unplug your phone when it says 100% the amount of power in that single point isn't worth worrying over.

    If you're not in a rush, plug it in before you go to sleep.
    05-27-2020 06:14 PM
  5. Adam Frix's Avatar
    So my last samsung phone had a led notification that would stay red even after the battery icon and text stated it was 100% charged. It wasn't until the led was green that you knew the phone was fully charged.
    No, you're wrong.

    It's not that the "100%" indicator was lying. It was that the LED was lying. Rather, the circuitry that drives the LED was lying. It was fully charged, but the firmware simply hadn't changed the LED to green yet.

    That much is known fact.
    05-27-2020 06:35 PM
  6. Mooncatt's Avatar
    No, you're wrong.

    It's not that the "100%" indicator was lying. It was that the LED was lying. Rather, the circuitry that drives the LED was lying. It was fully charged, but the firmware simply hadn't changed the LED to green yet.

    That much is known fact.
    This is also questionable. Most, if not all phones show 100% even when not right at tip top full. If you use an app like AccuBattery, you'll see it continue to charge after the meter reads 100%. The meter is a level indicator, but can be calibrated to show full at whatever. If a manufacturer is concerned about battery longevity, they can set the 100% mark on the meter a little lower so you'll unplug it and somewhat limit the amount of deterioration that happens (Li-ion batteries don't like to be full and prefer a happy medium).

    So without comparing the actual charge current to what the meter and indicator LED show, it's hard to say which is right.
    05-27-2020 07:56 PM
  7. Adam Frix's Avatar
    no, it's been tested. The LED is lying.
    05-27-2020 08:35 PM
  8. Mooncatt's Avatar
    no, it's been tested. The LED is lying.
    I've yet to see any reports of this, and I follow battery care topics more than most here.
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    05-27-2020 09:41 PM
  9. fthis f's Avatar
    I'm going to keep an eye on it for now. I suppose I'll keep it charged a few minutes after it reaches 100% just to be sure for the time being while it cycles the new battery.

    I'm still on the original preinstalled android 9 and samsung ui 1.1 Can anyone tell me if the updates improve battery life? I'm getting less than favorable battery life right now. I've only charged it twice since I got it yesterday and I still haven't fully customized the phone to turn off all the unnecessary apps so that may be contributing as well.


    On an unrelated note, I was playing around with the voice search on the much more responsive google search bar and I noticed that swear words are censored showing the first letter followed by little asterisks. I checked the settings and turned off "safe search" but it doesn't seem to have fixed it. Odd as f***
    05-27-2020 10:02 PM
  10. the_boon's Avatar
    LEDs are incapable of lying. To lie requires intent, an LED is an inanimate object.
    By "lying" I think it was a way of saying that the circuitry for the LED had a delay.

    Either way, it's better for the battery's longevity to charge to 85-90% rather than 100% (and also to try to not let it drop below 20-25%).
    05-27-2020 10:52 PM
  11. fuzzylumpkin's Avatar
    By "lying" I think it was a way of saying that the circuitry for the LED had a delay.

    Either way, it's better for the battery's longevity to charge to 85-90% rather than 100% (and also to try to not let it drop below 20-25%).
    Oh I know what he meant, but what he meant wasn't what he said.

    That is best practice, but ain't nobody got time for that!

    I actually do unplug at about 80 if I top up, but overnight i just plug in and charge to 100.
    05-28-2020 06:32 AM
  12. Mike Dee's Avatar
    The OP came here for help so why not keep the thread helpful?
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    05-28-2020 10:32 AM
  13. mustang7757's Avatar
    [Please stay on the topic, no personal insults]
    Did a thread clean up
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    05-28-2020 10:40 AM
  14. Mike Dee's Avatar
    I'm going to keep an eye on it for now. I suppose I'll keep it charged a few minutes after it reaches 100% just to be sure for the time being while it cycles the new battery.

    I'm still on the original preinstalled android 9 and samsung ui 1.1 Can anyone tell me if the updates improve battery life? I'm getting less than favorable battery life right now. I've only charged it twice since I got it yesterday and I still haven't fully customized the phone to turn off all the unnecessary apps so that may be contributing as well.


    On an unrelated note, I was playing around with the voice search on the much more responsive google search bar and I noticed that swear words are censored showing the first letter followed by little asterisks. I checked the settings and turned off "safe search" but it doesn't seem to have fixed it. Odd as f***
    Are you using Gboard?

    If so, go into
    settings,
    voice typing,
    offline speech recognition,
    turn off hide offensive words
    05-28-2020 10:50 AM
  15. bearone2's Avatar
    since when do the 10/10+ have both charging/fully charged lite with infinity "O" display?

    if you charge with phone on & are receiving notifications....it might never get to 100%

    fwiw: i've always charged phones off, my 10+ charges from 25% to 100%/power button in 80 min.
    05-29-2020 12:14 PM
  16. Mike Dee's Avatar
    since when do the 10/10+ have both charging/fully charged lite with infinity "O" display?

    if you charge with phone on & are receiving notifications....it might never get to 100%

    fwiw: i've always charged phones off, my 10+ charges from 25% to 100%/power button in 80 min.
    It doesn't....the OP was referring to their prior device.
    05-29-2020 06:48 PM
  17. bearone2's Avatar
    my error, thanks.

    the point was, charging with the phone on, may never get to 100%.
    05-29-2020 06:49 PM
  18. Mooncatt's Avatar
    my error, thanks.

    the point was, charging with the phone on, may never get to 100%.
    I've yet to see that be an issue, unless there's a hardware problem. I.e. A bad USB cable. The charge rate will slow down depending on usage, but it will get to 100%.
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    05-29-2020 06:57 PM
  19. bearone2's Avatar
    & the minute it's unplugged, drop to 97 or lower....why i've always charged off.
    05-29-2020 07:30 PM
  20. fthis f's Avatar
    Thanks everyone for the input. I've decided to just keep it charged an additional 10 mins after reaching 100% for now.

    Battery life could be better. I lose 1% within 3 mins of removing from the charger and currently I lose 10% for eight hours of idle overnight. I still haven't gone into the notifications or other settings that might be eating up battery life. I suppose it also has to do with my not updating my phone to the latest firmware just yet.


    Are you using Gboard?

    If so, go into
    settings,
    voice typing,
    offline speech recognition,
    turn off hide offensive words
    I'm on the preinstalled firmware and have not updated just yet so I don't think it comes with gboard, I certainly can't find it anywhere in the settings. It's no big deal, just a weird quirk I noticed, it's not as if I spend all day doing voice searches that include a lot of swear words.
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    05-29-2020 11:24 PM
  21. mustang7757's Avatar
    Thanks everyone for the input. I've decided to just keep it charged an additional 10 mins after reaching 100% for now.

    Battery life could be better. I lose 1% within 3 mins of removing from the charger and currently I lose 10% for eight hours of idle overnight. I still haven't gone into the notifications or other settings that might be eating up battery life. I suppose it also has to do with my not updating my phone to the latest firmware just yet.




    I'm on the preinstalled firmware and have not updated just yet so I don't think it comes with gboard, I certainly can't find it anywhere in the settings. It's no big deal, just a weird quirk I noticed, it's not as if I spend all day doing voice searches that include a lot of swear words.
    I think you should be fine .
    05-30-2020 01:16 AM
  22. fuzzylumpkin's Avatar
    As I alluded to in an above comment, you shouldn't fall into the trap of thinking the percentage that's displayed is totally accurate.

    Leaving it plugged in for ten minutes longer won't (shouldn't) do anything. If the phone thinks the battery is at 100% capacity it won't charge it any more, because that's how explosions happen.
    05-30-2020 08:12 PM
  23. Golfdriver97's Avatar
    I lose 1% within 3 mins of removing from the charger and currently I lose 10% for eight hours of idle overnight.
    The losing charge depends on whats going on. Facebook, GPS, Bluetooth, wifi, etc, may all be going on in the background. Always so hard to pin point. As long as the battery drop isn't like it's going off a cliff the second you take it off the charger, I wouldn't worry about it.
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    05-31-2020 08:07 PM
  24. Laura Knotek's Avatar
    Battery life could be better. I lose 1% within 3 mins of removing from the charger and currently I lose 10% for eight hours of idle overnight. I still haven't gone into the notifications or other settings that might be eating up battery life. I suppose it also has to do with my not updating my phone to the latest firmware just yet.
    About 10% drain for 8 hours idle overnight isn't bad.


    The losing charge depends on whats going on. Facebook, GPS, Bluetooth, wifi, etc, may all be going on in the background. Always so hard to pin point. As long as the battery drop isn't like it's going off a cliff the second you take it off the charger, I wouldn't worry about it.
    I agree. If the battery drain becomes excessive in short order, then it might be worthwhile to check device health battery to see if there's a rogue app draining the battery.
    05-31-2020 09:45 PM
  25. fthis f's Avatar
    Thanks for all those trying to explain the LED thing but I'm afraid your explanations exceed my ability to understand this matter. As far as I can tell, with this new phone, there is no "extra" charging going like with my last one. I just revert to my old habit from back in my Nokia and Ericsson days to fully charge the phone the first couple of times to "cycle" it. Whether that holds true or not with modern phones, it's an old habit that continue to practice with all my new devices and appliances fitted with a battery.

    The losing charge depends on whats going on. Facebook, GPS, Bluetooth, wifi, etc, may all be going on in the background. Always so hard to pin point. As long as the battery drop isn't like it's going off a cliff the second you take it off the charger, I wouldn't worry about it.
    It's only a couple days old but what stands out is that it loses 1-2% within 10 mins after being unplugged. I usually just check unread viber messages, one or two, and go into the settings for a bit and that's it. After the initial 1-2% it seems to discharge slower.

    I've turned off most of the notifications, no location or bluetooth. I haven't set up a new phone since 2016 or 2017, it seems push notifications are no longer a thing within the settings menu. I don't seem to be able to find it anywhere so I'm just turning off notifications one at a time as they pop up in my pull down tab.

    As far as usage so far, i did a 2 hour video call (exactly) on viber and lost 41%, that was after my first two charges. Currently I lose about 15% in an hour with light use, idling, going into the settings, reading one or two articles on the browser (chrome) and less than 5 minutes of youtube. Not sure how that holds up against the rest of your phones but I'm hoping the idle times improve once I update my phone to the latest firmware.
    05-31-2020 10:02 PM
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