06-12-2020 11:53 AM
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  1. Father Tech's Avatar
    I have long admired Samsung phones for their technology, but I've never purchased one, for two reasons:

    1- Samsung bloatware; and
    2- Slow to receive Android updates, esp. new versions.

    For these reasons, I purchased a Pixel phone instead.

    Since the newest Samsung phones are getting harder to resist, I wanted to ask how people feel about and deal with Samsung's bloatware and its slow upgrade pace. Many thanks for your views.
    Morty2264 likes this.
    06-03-2020 08:26 AM
  2. Morty2264's Avatar
    I was in the same boat as you until I bought my first ever Samsung phone (the S10) in October of last year! I'll try and give you my jumbled impressions - I haven't had much coffee yet!

    While I am not a fan of bloatware, especially coming from an unlocked Pixel 2, I am kind of used to it now, if that makes sense. I know which Samsung apps I'll use and which ones will kind of get in my way. They kind of go in a folder in my app drawer and stay there!

    When it comes to duplicate apps (ie, Google Calendar vs Samsung Calendar), I've actually found that I usually like Samsung's version better (gasp! Didn’t think I'd see the day!). I just delete what I don't like and carry on when that happens.

    With regards to updates, especially if you use a Pixel phone now, the wait time will take some getting used to when you have a Samsung device. However, I truly think it makes a difference whether or not you buy unlocked and which carrier you use.

    I just read a thread last night that Samsung users are already getting the June update. That's pretty quick! Being in Canada, I usually wait a few weeks after the first batch of updates go out, and then I usually get mine. I think Samsung is getting a bit better on this, though, which is making me hopeful.

    Please keep us posted on what you end up doing! My S10 has truly been great for me. I really miss my Pixel 2 at times (I'm a big Pixel fan), but my S10 was definitely a great choice.
    Laura Knotek and gendo667 like this.
    06-03-2020 08:35 AM
  3. CChamp's Avatar
    I agree with Ambassador. I have had my 10+ since they came out and love it. There is an option where you can "hide" your unwanted (bloat) apps completely from the app drawer so unless you actually go searching for them, you don't even know that they are on your phone. As far as the updates my carrier is USCelluler and I seem to get my update fairly on time. Battery life is pretty good, and it is pretty fast, couldn't ask for more.
    Laura Knotek and Morty2264 like this.
    06-03-2020 08:58 AM
  4. mustang7757's Avatar
    I have long admired Samsung phones for their technology, but I've never purchased one, for two reasons:

    1- Samsung bloatware; and
    2- Slow to receive Android updates, esp. new versions.

    For these reasons, I purchased a Pixel phone instead.

    Since the newest Samsung phones are getting harder to resist, I wanted to ask how people feel about and deal with Samsung's bloatware and its slow upgrade pace. Many thanks for your views.
    You can get the unlocked version which has a little less bloat then carrier ones but also can use package disabler pro to turn off any other bloat for few bucks . Updates have gotten really good with Samsung.
    06-03-2020 10:05 AM
  5. fuzzylumpkin's Avatar
    A combination of uninstalling, disabling and ignoring.

    Them trying to push their own ecosystem doesn't really bother me, I ignore their email app and those like it.

    The stuff that bothers me which gets removed or disabled is third party crap like Fortnite and LinkedIn... And the ad for McAfee in device care is almost enough to make me not buy from them again lol.

    But, it can be ignored...
    gendo667 likes this.
    06-03-2020 11:39 AM
  6. mustang7757's Avatar
    A combination of uninstalling, disabling and ignoring.

    Them trying to push their own ecosystem doesn't really bother me, I ignore their email app and those like it.

    The stuff that bothers me which gets removed or disabled is third party crap like Fortnite and LinkedIn... And the ad for McAfee in device care is almost enough to make me not buy from them again lol.

    But, it can be ignored...
    I like having both to choose from .
    06-03-2020 12:10 PM
  7. Adam Frix's Avatar
    I have long admired Samsung phones for their technology, but I've never purchased one, for two reasons:

    1- Samsung bloatware; and
    2- Slow to receive Android updates, esp. new versions.

    For these reasons, I purchased a Pixel phone instead.

    Since the newest Samsung phones are getting harder to resist, I wanted to ask how people feel about and deal with Samsung's bloatware and its slow upgrade pace. Many thanks for your views.
    "bloatware"???? What are you talking about????? There's no bloatware on a Samsung phone.
    06-03-2020 02:27 PM
  8. Father Tech's Avatar
    Thanks for everyone's replies. I really appreciate them. It seems like the bloatware and updating concerns remain.

    Getting an unlocked phone at least eliminates the carrier bloat. Regarding the Samsung bloat: To the extent that apps cannot be uninstalled, can unwanted apps be hidden, perhaps inside a folder, so at least I don't have to look at them? It doesn't bother me much they they remain in memory, since phones come with so much RAM today.
    Morty2264 likes this.
    06-03-2020 02:53 PM
  9. fuzzylumpkin's Avatar
    Yeah, the bloat apps that can't be uninstalled can mostly be disabled from the app info.

    Updates really aren't much of an issue at the flagship level. I get a security patch every month, often before pixels. Platform updates take a little longer, but to be honest, when was the last time a platform update was actually interesting?
    06-03-2020 03:06 PM
  10. mustang7757's Avatar
    Thanks for everyone's replies. I really appreciate them. It seems like the bloatware and updating concerns remain.

    Getting an unlocked phone at least eliminates the carrier bloat. Regarding the Samsung bloat: To the extent that apps cannot be uninstalled, can unwanted apps be hidden, perhaps inside a folder, so at least I don't have to look at them? It doesn't bother me much they they remain in memory, since phones come with so much RAM today.
    The bloat that you can't disable , package disabler takes care like bixby and many others
    fuzzylumpkin and Laura Knotek like this.
    06-03-2020 03:11 PM
  11. fuzzylumpkin's Avatar
    The bloat that you can't disable , package disabler takes care like bixby and many others
    You know, I never think of Bixby as bloat...

    Not because it isn't bloat, it is. I just never think about Bixby full stop lol.
    mustang7757 likes this.
    06-03-2020 03:22 PM
  12. mustang7757's Avatar
    You know, I never think of Bixby as bloat...

    Not because it isn't bloat, it is. I just never think about Bixby full stop lol.
    Lol yeah I hear you
    06-03-2020 04:10 PM
  13. mustang7757's Avatar
    You know, I never think of Bixby as bloat...

    Not because it isn't bloat, it is. I just never think about Bixby full stop lol.
    The one I disabled was digital well-being with package disabler
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    06-03-2020 04:11 PM
  14. fuzzylumpkin's Avatar
    The one I disabled was digital well-being with package disabler
    Does that remove the entry from the settings menu completely, or just make the link go nowhere?
    06-03-2020 05:27 PM
  15. mustang7757's Avatar
    Does that remove the entry from the settings menu completely, or just make the link go nowhere?
    It won't do anything if you tap it in setting , says no apps can perform this function
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    06-03-2020 05:30 PM
  16. mustang7757's Avatar
    This all the apps I disabled General question about S10/S10+: Bloatware and updates, specifically.-screenshot_20200603-183133_package-20disabler-20pro.jpeg
    06-03-2020 05:31 PM
  17. dpomerance's Avatar
    Unlocked S10+ on ATT already have June update
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    06-04-2020 06:57 AM
  18. Morty2264's Avatar
    This all the apps I disabled Click image for larger version. 

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    I should maybe do this, too. The apps I never use stay in a folder in my app drawer and I just stop seeing them after a while. 🤣
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    06-04-2020 08:19 AM
  19. mustang7757's Avatar
    I should maybe do this, too. The apps I never use stay in a folder in my app drawer and I just stop seeing them after a while.
    Yeah if you disable apps with this it's out of sight until you enable. Definitely worth it
    06-04-2020 09:19 AM
  20. CChamp's Avatar
    Hey Mustang, I am thinking of getting the app and disabling the same things you did. (1) Did it cause any problems with anything else? (2) Did it make any noticeable difference in performance? Thanks
    gendo667 likes this.
    06-04-2020 03:53 PM
  21. mustang7757's Avatar
    Hey Mustang, I am thinking of getting the app and disabling the same things you did. (1) Did it cause any problems with anything else? (2) Did it make any noticeable difference in performance? Thanks
    Hi, no noticeable difference in performance but I just don't like those things on my phone
    06-04-2020 03:55 PM
  22. Morty2264's Avatar
    Yeah if you disable apps with this it's out of sight until you enable. Definitely worth it
    I may have to go through with it, then!
    mustang7757 likes this.
    06-05-2020 08:28 AM
  23. mustang7757's Avatar
    I may have to go through with it, then!
    Definitely here the link when ready

    https://www.packagedisabler.com/
    Morty2264 likes this.
    06-05-2020 09:19 AM
  24. Morty2264's Avatar
    Definitely here the link when ready

    https://www.packagedisabler.com/
    Thank you!
    mustang7757 likes this.
    06-05-2020 09:27 AM
  25. Roosterman's Avatar
    In some of the reviews for Package Disabler, there is a complaint that the app gets removed from the app store. Then it comes back and those that have already bought the app need to repurchase it. It seems it comes back with a different app ID so the user has two versions. The original doesn't work anymore and the new one doesn't recognize the changes that had already been made. So, they can't reenable things later if they wanted to.

    Has anyone here experienced this?
    06-05-2020 10:00 AM
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