[mustang7757]

I like this write up, some truth there.

https://www.sammobile.com/opinion/go...amsung-phones/

[Adam Frix]

but as far as features and functionality go, Samsung isn’t chained to Android. It can add any features that it wants to Galaxy devices without having to wait for an OS update.

This right here.

Like Samsung's features or not, you have to admit they make their own stuff and don't depend nearly so much on Google. That it's Google under the skin is getting less and less important nowadays.

Shoot, they went their own way with Tizen for the watches. I wrestled with that a bit before I pulled the trigger, but I have zero regrets about buying a Galaxy Watch. (In fact, I have a custom watch face that I love, that's not available anywhere else.)

[B. Diddy]

I agree when it comes to features -- but I'd be more concerned about important security patches. Granted, many security patches are minor, but every now and then there's a more consequential one, so I'd hope those get pushed out by Samsung in an expedited manner.

[fuzzylumpkin]

Yeah a lot of the platform update hype is rendered moot by the fact many of the features are often in one UI already, and Google seems to keep the good stuff for the Pixel.

Plus platform updates are less exciting these days in general...

This right here.

Like Samsung's features or not, you have to admit they make their own stuff and don't depend nearly so much on Google. That it's Google under the skin is getting less and less important nowadays.

Shoot, they went their own way with Tizen for the watches. I wrestled with that a bit before I pulled the trigger, but I have zero regrets about buying a Galaxy Watch. (In fact, I have a custom watch face that I love, that's not available anywhere else.)

To be fair though it's less that Tizen is amazing and more that Wear OS/Android Wear/whatever it's called this week is terrible.

[mustang7757]

I agree when it comes to features -- but I'd be more concerned about important security patches. Granted, many security patches are minor, but every now and then there's a more consequential one, so I'd hope those get pushed out by Samsung in an expedited manner.

Yeah they been very good at that lately

[L0n3N1nja]

I agree when it comes to features -- but I'd be more concerned about important security patches. Granted, many security patches are minor, but every now and then there's a more consequential one, so I'd hope those get pushed out by Samsung in an expedited manner.

They occasionally beat the Pixel line now.

[Kizzy Catwoman]

They occasionally beat the Pixel line now.

And their feature drops are quite good as well.

[B. Diddy]

They occasionally beat the Pixel line now.

Very true, but that's primarily with the flagships. Are the updates for the midrangers and the tablets also as timely?

[Adam Frix]

To be fair though it's less that Tizen is amazing and more that Wear OS/Android Wear/whatever it's called this week is terrible.

so, Google's stuff is terrible on the watches, and Samsung said "yeah, we can do it better".

And so it goes for the phones, too.

[fuzzylumpkin]

so, Google's stuff is terrible on the watches, and Samsung said "yeah, we can do it better".

And so it goes for the phones, too.

Exactly. But while it's better than wear OS Tizen still has a lot of room for improvement. It's functional enough, but not great.

I really wish it supported Google services too... But that's likely more on Google than Samsung.

In earnest, the main thing that makes wear OS bad isn't even Google Vs Samsung, though. It's Qualcomm Vs Samsung.

[fuzzylumpkin]

Very true, but that's primarily with the flagships. Are the updates for the midrangers and the tablets also as timely?

It's true they could do a lot better with the mid-range updates. But to be fair, this is the S10 forum, not the A70 forum. It makes sense that people here see things from the perspective of S10 owners.

[Dooki]

it's not Samsung that's the issue now, it's the carriers. TMobile sucks at updates.

[mustang7757]

It's true they could do a lot better with the mid-range updates. But to be fair, this is the S10 forum, not the A70 forum. It makes sense that people here see things from the perspective of S10 owners.

Man thought I put in note 10 forum lol , it's ok I have the s10+ also

[mustang7757]

They occasionally beat the Pixel line now.

That's true

[mustang7757]

it's not Samsung that's the issue now, it's the carriers. TMobile sucks at updates.

Looks like it

[Adam Frix]

it's not Samsung that's the issue now, it's the carriers. TMobile sucks at updates.

well, Samsung could create an environment whereby the core OS is updated independently of the carrier bits--just like how Samsung creates and updates their user-facing experience independent of Google.

That puts it right back onto Samsung.

[Mike Dee]

well, Samsung could create an environment whereby the core OS is updated independently of the carrier bits--just like how Samsung creates and updates their user-facing experience independent of Google.

That puts it right back onto Samsung.

That might not work on Carrier branded models with certain carriers.

[Adam Frix]

Apple does it. It shouldn't be an issue at all.

I'm positive Verizon is not at all happy ceding control of the phone to Apple, but hey, they have no choice.

[Mike Dee]

Apple does it. It shouldn't be an issue at all.

I'm positive Verizon is not at all happy ceding control of the phone to Apple, but hey, they have no choice.

It was either concede to Apple or they wouldn't give it them.

[B. Diddy]

It's true they could do a lot better with the mid-range updates. But to be fair, this is the S10 forum, not the A70 forum. It makes sense that people here see things from the perspective of S10 owners.

True. I was thinking more in terms of the article itself, which talked about Samsung in general, and not just its flagships. Overall, though, Samsung has definitely been doing a better job with updates compared to a few years back.

[mustang7757]

Main thing is Samsung has these features that later on get added to stock Andriod, which is true like mentioned in the article, for faster Andriod updates the pixel has that but features they behind, and not gimmick features its ones that get added eventually to stock Andriod.

[B. Diddy]

I agree with that -- Google has certainly adopted interesting features from Samsung and other companies over the years and integrated them into "stock" Android.

[mustang7757]

I agree with that -- Google has certainly adopted interesting features from Samsung and other companies over the years and integrated them into "stock" Android.

Still stock Andriod clean and to the point, I like that also)

[Adam Frix]

It was either concede to Apple or they wouldn't give it them.

Proof that Verizon is vulnerable. And that changes nothing about what I said: Samsung could do this. Verizon et al. shouldn't be an issue at all.

[Adam Frix]

Still stock Andriod clean and to the point, I like that also)

I would argue that what we get out of Samsung is stock Samsung.

I fail to understand this mania for a bare bones OS. There's no such thing as "stock Android". There's the Android that Google puts forth in its Pixel phones, there's what Moto puts forth, what Samsung puts forth, and so on. Android is underneath, but everyone does his own thing with it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androi...rating_system)

Google's retail implementation is Google's retail implementation. But it's not "stock Android," as there is no such thing.