03-05-2019 09:15 AM
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  1. omarshawki's Avatar
    Well I've been using the S10 Plus for 3 days now. I'm coming from an iPhone X. The last Android phone I had was the S8 Plus.

    To start with the screen is gorgeous. I'm not too bothered by the cutout but then again I wasn't all that bothered with the iPhones notch. I have been using the phone at its maximum resolution.

    The battery life has been decent. Definitely making it through the day but I honestly expected slightly more from a 4100 MAh battery. Not saying it's bad at all but I'm getting around 4/5 hours of SOT with about 2 hours if audible and an hour of iTunes Music streaming. Pretty good.

    The size of the phone isnt too big but I am using it without a case until it arrives. It's a very light phone. Not as slippery as my iPhone.

    I actually really like One UI. It's smooth and has some pretty nifty functions. I would normally have downloaded Nova Launcher but I haven't felt the need to do so. I think Samsung finally nailed it.

    The finger print scanner isn't all that great. It requires a specific angle to work properly. I would have much rather had one on the back of the phone honestly.

    This is my first review so I know things are all over the place. If you have any questions let me know and I'll do my best to answer them
    DamianP likes this.
    03-03-2019 09:58 AM
  2. Mushkie11's Avatar
    I too am leaving the X for the S10+. What would you say is the biggest adjustment? And any must do's when activating??
    03-03-2019 10:15 AM
  3. Adam Frix's Avatar
    I expect they have some work to do with the fingerprint scanner. Either they'll fix it in an update 6 months from now, or we'll hear dead silence until the S11 with the "all-new!" scanner (read: OOPS, WE GOT IT WRONG LAST TIME).
    recDNA likes this.
    03-03-2019 11:17 AM
  4. NIZMOZ44's Avatar
    Redo your finger on the scanning part and move it around every time you place it down. Like a different part of your thumb is touching each time. That will make it work better. Because you probably kept putting it down the same way, now you have to use that angle. You can also use multiple fingers.

    Well I've been using the S10 Plus for 3 days now. I'm coming from an iPhone X. The last Android phone I had was the S8 Plus.

    To start with the screen is gorgeous. I'm not too bothered by the cutout but then again I wasn't all that bothered with the iPhones notch. I have been using the phone at its maximum resolution.

    The battery life has been decent. Definitely making it through the day but I honestly expected slightly more from a 4100 MAh battery. Not saying it's bad at all but I'm getting around 4/5 hours of SOT with about 2 hours if audible and an hour of iTunes Music streaming. Pretty good.

    The size of the phone isnt too big but I am using it without a case until it arrives. It's a very light phone. Not as slippery as my iPhone.

    I actually really like One UI. It's smooth and has some pretty nifty functions. I would normally have downloaded Nova Launcher but I haven't felt the need to do so. I think Samsung finally nailed it.

    The finger print scanner isn't all that great. It requires a specific angle to work properly. I would have much rather had one on the back of the phone honestly.

    This is my first review so I know things are all over the place. If you have any questions let me know and I'll do my best to answer them
    03-03-2019 12:02 PM
  5. durandetto's Avatar
    It helps to scan the same finger twice as in use the same finger for 2 slots. I usually do 2 fingers on my left hand then one on my right.
    sulla1965 likes this.
    03-03-2019 12:11 PM
  6. sulla1965's Avatar
    Never thought of that, thanks for the tip.
    03-03-2019 01:34 PM
  7. Notefan161's Avatar
    I expect they have some work to do with the fingerprint scanner. Either they'll fix it in an update 6 months from now, or we'll hear dead silence until the S11 with the "all-new!" scanner (read: OOPS, WE GOT IT WRONG LAST TIME).
    A new update is already coming...
    03-03-2019 01:37 PM
  8. Michael_Archangel's Avatar
    Could you please take a photo of a cat or dog in low light? Really interested to see if they've finally sorted the blurring / over smoothing of details that the S9 had due to aggressive noise reduction.

    Also interested to see if the "pet mode" makes a difference as "pet" is one of the new scenes recognised by the scene optimiser.
    03-03-2019 04:20 PM
  9. sulla1965's Avatar
    Honestly if camera is really, really, really important to you. I suggest looking into a pixel 3 or the latest iPhone. The s10 will have a great camera, but probably not top 2 quality. Just my 2 cents.
    03-03-2019 06:45 PM
  10. NIZMOZ44's Avatar
    Honestly if camera is really, really, really important to you. I suggest looking into a pixel 3 or the latest iPhone. The s10 will have a great camera, but probably not top 2 quality. Just my 2 cents.
    The S10 has a much better camera than the iPhone XS Max. The Pixel has been passed on all the tests I have seen lately. Just put GCAM on any top tier android phone and you have a camera that beats the Pixel.

    https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/
    03-03-2019 06:47 PM
  11. worldsoutro's Avatar
    Honestly if camera is really, really, really important to you. I suggest looking into a pixel 3 or the latest iPhone. The s10 will have a great camera, but probably not top 2 quality. Just my 2 cents.
    I agree nothing beats the pixel camera. I am sure the S10 is great
    03-03-2019 07:27 PM
  12. Rose4uKY's Avatar
    When I was at Best Buy tonight they had several pictures taken of the front of the store from out front like 6 or 8 maybe and they had us guess which ones were from the S10 they had the names of the phones marked on the back. I picked 2 just guessing and one was the Pixel 3 and one was the S9 my husband picked the 10 and Note 9 I think it was. But I think it's going to be a good camera.
    03-03-2019 08:35 PM
  13. mogelijk's Avatar
    The S10 has a much better camera than the iPhone XS Max. The Pixel has been passed on all the tests I have seen lately. Just put GCAM on any top tier android phone and you have a camera that beats the Pixel.

    https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/
    Using DXOMark scores is not a reliable way of comparing phone cameras -- particularly if the number of cameras is not the same. DXOMark gives "bonus points" for extra cameras -- this is why the Pixel scores are so low (just the single back camera), despite being widely proclaimed as the best phone camera, and why the phones with three cameras on the back of the phone score higher.
    03-04-2019 02:56 AM
  14. nndlb123's Avatar
    The S10 beats the iPhone's cameras by a good margin in nearly everything except sometimes their colours are more accurate. The Pixel 3 has an excellent night mode and a much wider front facing camera which the S10 doesn't but otherwise the S10 seems better. The S10 has the best all around camera, having the three lenses means it has a lens for almost all situations now. there will be a phone that might beat it in some situations here and there but all round photography it's pretty impressive.
    03-04-2019 03:32 AM
  15. Notefan161's Avatar
    People obess too much on cameras these days all amazing cameras

    Pixel still looks the best but you don’t buy a smart phone just for camera alone. Pixel comes up short in other areas aside from the camera
    03-04-2019 05:03 AM
  16. Itsa_Me_Mario's Avatar
    Just put GCAM on any top tier android phone and you have a camera that beats the Pixel.
    I can't say I agree with this. The heavy lifting that makes a Pixel camera awesome is done in a large part on their visual core and the processing interaction from the app is heavily reliant on that processor. The google camera app can improve some devices, but it's not going to bring them up to par.

    That said, the S10's camera looks awesome, though its strengths lie in different areas. I've not had time to form my own opinion on which one is better overall, but DXO is certainly already sold.
    Laura Knotek likes this.
    03-04-2019 02:40 PM
  17. Itsa_Me_Mario's Avatar
    The S10 beats the iPhone's cameras by a good margin in nearly everything except someone their colours are more accurate.
    Is it fair to restate this as, "the S10 is better than the iPhone in many things, but is still behind on one of the most important aspects of photography - accurate reproduction" - or something like that?
    Easycure1974 likes this.
    03-04-2019 02:42 PM
  18. NIZMOZ44's Avatar
    I would suggest you review all those pictures done from GCAM on a S9 or N9 phone and you will say otherwise. They look much better and in much better quality than the Pixel itself. The Pixel camera with one single lens is now way behind the competition. No zoom, no wide view, and so on.

    I can't sa

    y I agree with this. The heavy lifting that makes a Pixel camera awesome is done in a large part on their visual core and the processing interaction from the app is heavily reliant on that processor. The google camera app can improve some devices, but it's not going to bring them up to par.

    That said, the S10's camera looks awesome, though its strengths lie in different areas. I've not had time to form my own opinion on which one is better overall, but DXO is certainly already sold.
    03-04-2019 02:46 PM
  19. NIZMOZ44's Avatar
    This just got posted. Good review.

    03-04-2019 02:47 PM
  20. omarshawki's Avatar
    I too am leaving the X for the S10+. What would you say is the biggest adjustment? And any must do's when activating??
    Well so far the only issues I had was moving all my content over to Google etc. As well as my passwords since I rely heavily on allowing the iPhone to create them for me. Had to manually add them to Samsung smart pass.

    The software is easy enough time navigate. I just don't like the gestures on Android so I'm using the only screen button layout. I don't think you'll miss IOS that much. I still use my iPad Pro for work so I think this is the best of both worlds
    03-04-2019 02:50 PM
  21. omarshawki's Avatar
    Thank you ! This works awesome
    03-04-2019 02:51 PM
  22. omarshawki's Avatar
    Could you please take a photo of a cat or dog in low light? Really interested to see if they've finally sorted the blurring / over smoothing of details that the S9 had due to aggressive noise reduction.

    Also interested to see if the "pet mode" makes a difference as "pet" is one of the new scenes recognised by the scene optimiser.
    I don't have any pets but here's a photo I took with the phone
    Attached Thumbnails Preliminary S10 Plus Review-91.jpg  
    03-04-2019 02:52 PM
  23. nndlb123's Avatar
    No not really. I said sometimes and it's only sometimes the iPhone has the better colour reproduction. What's better is subjective and also heavily reliant on what the photo is. Sometimes I prefer the punchy colours, sometimes I want the much better detail that the S10 gives over the iPhone.
    As I said I don't think there is one camera that's the best in every situation and I don't think there ever will be but the Samsung does give consistently better images in all situations.
    03-04-2019 02:56 PM
  24. omarshawki's Avatar
    Here are some more pics I took. All on automatic since I'm not much of an expert
    Attached Thumbnails Preliminary S10 Plus Review-20190302_123039.jpg  
    03-04-2019 02:59 PM
  25. Itsa_Me_Mario's Avatar
    Using DXOMark scores is not a reliable way of comparing phone cameras -- particularly if the number of cameras is not the same. DXOMark gives "bonus points" for extra cameras -- this is why the Pixel scores are so low (just the single back camera), despite being widely proclaimed as the best phone camera, and why the phones with three cameras on the back of the phone score higher.
    Generally agree. The weird weighted scoring they have now is extremely strange, and since it is not disclosed - the scores are not reproducible. I've attempted to replicate the functions necessary to come up with a score of 114 out of 95, 89, 70, 75, 77, 94, 68 and 54 with the same equation producing 103 out of 92, 84, 98, 71, 64, 73, 89, 47 and 50. Obviously, the weights on some of these scores are higher than 1.0 and/or there is a multiplier of some sort. I'm not entirely convinced that they're not just making it up. Adding in that major features, such as Night Sight, are ignored makes their reliability to real world even more problematic than it used to be.

    Edit to add, the closest I've been able to get (and simplest attempt) was to just take the average of the scores x 1.4. That gives me 113.7 which I'd be ok rounding to 114, but 103.9 on the other, which would not be acceptable to round down. It also doesn't make sense to do it that way, because otherwise the straight average score would be totally representative.
    03-04-2019 03:05 PM
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