1. kjjb0204's Avatar
    Finally had a chance to hook up my 802.11ax access point and connect my S10. It actually shows when you're using WiFi 6 which is pretty cool I thought.
    Attached Thumbnails WiFi 6 in da house!  802.11ax is rocking the wifi!-screenshot_20190315-143421_photos.jpg  
    03-15-2019 01:38 PM
  2. jhimmel's Avatar
    Cool. Have you tested your speed at all?
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    03-15-2019 03:29 PM
  3. kjjb0204's Avatar
    Cool. Have you tested you speed at all?
    I have, and I'm seeing around 550Mbps down and 40 up. I have a 1Gb internet connection and I'm assuming it's being choked on the ISP side, not the wifi. I wonder if there's a way to test the speed just from the access point to the client, regardless of internet speeds. I'm getting the same 550Mbps on my wired connection as well, so that tells me it's my ISP slowing me down. This WiFi 6 can transmit up to 5Gbps if you have the backhaul to support.
    03-15-2019 03:33 PM
  4. jhimmel's Avatar
    How is the access point connected the your network?
    In my case my access points are run from wired ports of a gigabit poe switch. I don't believe my switch could handle 5Gbs. So what would you connect the access point to in order to get 5Gbs, even if you had the Internet speed? Can the wired network support that? I'm sure I'm just not understanding it all yet.

    I guess I'm saying, even if I could get 5Gbs back and forth between my access point and my device, I think my wired network would become the bottleneck from that speed going any further, no?

    My thinking is that my whole network will need to be upgraded to 5GBASE-T or 10GBASE-T to really take advantage of it.

    BTW, I'm getting about 300Mbs up and down on my current setup.
    03-15-2019 04:40 PM
  5. kjjb0204's Avatar
    I only have two ap's wired into a 1Gb gateway from Comcast. My network absolutely doesn't support 5Gbs speeds. However. There are certainly 10Gb and 100Gb Poe switches on the market if you can get that kind of speed from isp.
    03-15-2019 04:57 PM
  6. jhimmel's Avatar
    I only have two ap's wired into a 1Gb gateway from Comcast. My network absolutely doesn't support 5Gbs speeds. However. There are certainly 10Gb and 100Gb Poe switches on the market if you can get that kind of speed from isp.
    Even if you could get that from your ISP, the router would have to have a 5Gbs or 10Gbs port to plug into. Otherwise a 5GBASE-T switch still won't get you into any multi Gbs Internet service you may get someday. It seems the easiest (but limited) way would be if your router had WiFi 6 and you bypass your wired network.

    Anyway, just changing my access points to WiFi 6 would probably double my speed - so that's not bad. My wife will think I'm a nut buying new Access Points, but I'm sure I can't help myself. :-)
    03-15-2019 05:21 PM
  7. nunyabiziz's Avatar
    Download on the slow side because the family streaming a movie while I was testing.WiFi 6 in da house!  802.11ax is rocking the wifi!-20190315_174047.jpg
    03-15-2019 05:45 PM
  8. tcmeiss's Avatar
    What type/brand of APs are you using? Do they support mGig?
    03-15-2019 06:04 PM
  9. Almeuit's Avatar
    How is the access point connected the your network?
    In my case my access points are run from wired ports of a gigabit poe switch. I don't believe my switch could handle 5Gbs. So what would you connect the access point to in order to get 5Gbs, even if you had the Internet speed? Can the wired network support that? I'm sure I'm just not understanding it all yet.

    I guess I'm saying, even if I could get 5Gbs back and forth between my access point and my device, I think my wired network would become the bottleneck from that speed going any further, no?

    My thinking is that my whole network will need to be upgraded to 5GBASE-T or 10GBASE-T to really take advantage of it.

    BTW, I'm getting about 300Mbs up and down on my current setup.
    Yeah you want to ensure you have a switch/router that could handle it all. I use this as my switch which would be able to support it (but obviously I don't have that fast of home internet -- Just 1,000 down/up).

    My Switch - https://www.ui.com/unifi-switching/unifi-switch-8/
    My Router - https://store.ui.com/products/unifi-security-gateway
    03-15-2019 06:08 PM
  10. Almeuit's Avatar
    Download on the slow side because the family streaming a movie while I was testing.Click image for larger version. 

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    I doubt it was the movie -- one movie streaming wouldn't eat up 200 Mbps :P.
    03-15-2019 06:08 PM
  11. tcmeiss's Avatar
    I've never used Unifi gear. How do you configure it, GUI or command line? Are they reliable?

    I use all Cisco gear.
    Router: ISR G2 1941
    Switch: 2960G 24 port w/PoE+ injectors for APs, and a 2960c 12 port for some additional capacity
    APs: 3802i (two of them) 802.11ac Wave2
    Wireless Controller: 2504 WLC
    03-15-2019 06:27 PM
  12. jhimmel's Avatar
    Yeah you want to ensure you have a switch/router that could handle it all. I use this as my switch which would be able to support it (but obviously I don't have that fast of home internet -- Just 1,000 down/up).

    My Switch - https://www.ui.com/unifi-switching/unifi-switch-8/
    My Router - https://store.ui.com/products/unifi-security-gateway
    I checked the specs on that switch. It has "Total Non-Blocking Throughput" of 8Gbs. Networking interface is listed as "(8) 10/100/1000 Mbps RJ45 Ports". Pretty sure thats 8 ports at 1Gbs each for total of 8Gbs non-blocking, and 16Gbs total switching. My belief is you will not get more than 1Gbs in one direction through any one port. Pretty sure you need 5GBASE-T support for greater than 1Gbs.

    Not giving you a hard time - I'm personally interested on where these speeds are headed and what will be needed for it to be fully realized.
    03-15-2019 06:29 PM
  13. Almeuit's Avatar
    I checked the specs on that switch. It has "Total Non-Blocking Throughput" of 8Gbs. Networking interface is listed as "(8) 10/100/1000 Mbps RJ45 Ports". Pretty sure thats 8 ports at 1Gbs each for total of 8Gbs non-blocking, and 16Gbs total switching. My belief is you will not get more than 1Gbs in one direction through any one port. Pretty sure you need 5GBASE-T support for greater than 1Gbs.

    Not giving you a hard time - I'm personally interested on where these speeds are headed and what will be needed for it to be fully realized.
    Yeah you are correct so it wouldn't do much. I wasn't thinking lol. #derp
    03-15-2019 06:31 PM
  14. nunyabiziz's Avatar
    My configuration is:

    Router: https://www.amazon.com/ASUS-GT-AX110...cUvbUpU6503005

    Main Switch: https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-Multi...cUvbUpU6503005

    With a 2.5GE connection between router and switch and service provider is At&t Gig Fiber.
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    03-15-2019 07:08 PM
  15. duckware's Avatar
    On your phone, under Wi-Fi settings, click on the connected SSID. What link speed do you see (864/960/1080/1200/...)? Then take 55% of the link speed for an estimate of maximum throughput.
    03-18-2019 07:48 AM
  16. jhimmel's Avatar
    On your phone, under Wi-Fi settings, click on the connected SSID. What link speed do you see (864/960/1080/1200/...)? Then take 55% of the link speed for an estimate of maximum throughput.
    Can you screenshot this? I'm on a Note 9 (with Pie), and mine just shows Network speed, and it fluctuates. It seems to be my actual speed (I tested it). Is the S10 different?
    03-18-2019 09:42 AM
  17. kjjb0204's Avatar
    On your phone, under Wi-Fi settings, click on the connected SSID. What link speed do you see (864/960/1080/1200/...)? Then take 55% of the link speed for an estimate of maximum throughput.
    I'm back to my Wifi 5 (802.11ac) access point and my link speed says 866Mbps. That's still pretty darn fast, and certainly fast enough for anything I want to do. Unfortunately my Wifi 6 ap doesn't support mesh yet, so I have to stick with my AC ap for now as I have another ap feeding off the base.
    03-18-2019 10:25 AM
  18. duckware's Avatar
    Well, just very curious what PHY connect speed (S10 to 802.11ax router) you are getting from 802.11ax (Wi-Fi 6). The S10 is a 2x2 MIMO device, and that will limit the speeds that you will get from the S10 more than Wi-Fi 5 or Wi-Fi 6. Once you have a PHY speed, actual throughput you can expect is right around 55% of the PHY speed. So with 866 Mbps from Wi-Fi 5, you can expect a maximum throughput of around 476 Mbps. So, curious what PHY speed you get from Wi-Fi 6 to see what improvement to expect from "ax" gear...
    03-19-2019 08:09 AM
  19. kjjb0204's Avatar
    Well, just very curious what PHY connect speed (S10 to 802.11ax router) you are getting from 802.11ax (Wi-Fi 6). The S10 is a 2x2 MIMO device, and that will limit the speeds that you will get from the S10 more than Wi-Fi 5 or Wi-Fi 6. Once you have a PHY speed, actual throughput you can expect is right around 55% of the PHY speed. So with 866 Mbps from Wi-Fi 5, you can expect a maximum throughput of around 476 Mbps. So, curious what PHY speed you get from Wi-Fi 6 to see what improvement to expect from "ax" gear...
    I'll have to hook my ax ap up again to see... It's currently not compatible with my Cloud controller with Mesh networking, so I went back to my ac ap for now.
    03-20-2019 11:37 AM
  20. X1tymez's Avatar
    Man! I owed Netgear Orbi older model and they don't support it. Asked me to buy newer model lol.
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    03-21-2019 01:01 AM
  21. FifthElement's Avatar
    On your phone, under Wi-Fi settings, click on the connected SSID. What link speed do you see (864/960/1080/1200/...)? Then take 55% of the link speed for an estimate of maximum throughput.
    I have the Note 10+ and the Asus RT-88AXU and Xfinity Gigabit internet. I get 975Mbps down and 45Mbps up via Wired. Now with my first AX device (Note 10) I get anywhere from 500 to 800Mbps down. I'm only pulling 2 streams from my router (it can do 4) and my phone advertised speed is showing 1.2Gbps so yeah your right, about 55% of that is what I'm getting and I have no bottlenecks. So AX wasn't all that great as I get similar speeds on my old S8+. BTW my router has the latest Merlin firmware. I've tried enabling the 802.11ax HE Frame Support but it always say disabled after I enabled it and I've tried putting everything on auto thinking there was a prerequisite.
    09-14-2019 10:46 PM
  22. BaritoneGuy's Avatar
    The bigger speeds are also going to require wide channels which will probably pick up interference from other networks as their is likely to be overlap. Even at 80 Mhz channels there is likely to be interference.
    09-18-2019 06:45 PM

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