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  1. LilSweetLin's Avatar
    New devices are always on the horizon. As someone who would be upgrading from a Nexus 6P that is showing its age at an accelerated pace, I've been tempted by "Techtober"; especially with the fact that I've realized that stock Android is rather boring.

    As soon as I heard that the Note 9 was coming with a 4000 mAh battery, I thought my decision was made. But now with big changes supposedly coming to the 10th anniversary phones, I'm wondering if I should wait even more. I've never owned a Note, so it would be convenient to use the S-Pen when I need to, but the rumors surrounding the S-line phones have me excited.

    Sure, having a bezel-less phone would be cool in terms of content consumption, but what has me excited is the possibility of the display being shatterproof, much like Motorola phones of a few years ago. I'm also hearing that the S10+ will also have a 4000 mAh battery, and coupled with the 7nm SD 855, battery life and efficiency *should* be fantastic.

    I don't have the funds to upgrade every year, so whatever I get, I'm sticking with for the next three years, at least. 5G won't be widespread for a while, and anyway, I'm hearing that the 5G variant of the S10+ will be a Verizon exclusive (of course 🙄). I want to be as future proof as possible. Which phone would be a better buy for me next year, once the prices drop?
    10-31-2018 04:29 PM
  2. gendo667's Avatar
    Also, there's a strong possibility Samsung will be using new camera sensors in the S10. Should be exciting.
    10-31-2018 04:34 PM
  3. sulla1965's Avatar
    The s10 is rumored to be a major upgrade to s series. So many of the features will be exported to the Note 10. It usually comes down to the s pen. If you don't really use it, then I'd wait to see what the s10 offers before considering the Note 9.
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    10-31-2018 05:12 PM
  4. LilSweetLin's Avatar
    The s10 is rumored to be a major upgrade to s series. So many of the features will be exported to the Note 10. It usually comes down to the s pen. If you don't really use it, then I'd wait to see what the s10 offers before considering the Note 9.
    Is scroll capture a Note exclusive feature? I've always thought that was useful.
    10-31-2018 07:14 PM
  5. L0n3N1nja's Avatar
    Is scroll capture a Note exclusive feature? I've always thought that was a useful.
    My S7 has scroll capture same as the Note 5 and Note 8.

    I think all Samsung flagships since the S6 have had the feature.
    10-31-2018 08:59 PM
  6. chanchan05's Avatar
    The only possible downside I could see on the next gen Samsungs is if they're using in-display fingerprint scanners, which means to use that, there should be no screen protectors. That tech using ultrasonic vibrations so the protectors will mess up the acoustics. There is the iris scanner though.
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    10-31-2018 09:31 PM
  7. LilSweetLin's Avatar
    The only possible downside I could see on the next gen Samsungs is if they're using in-display fingerprint scanners, which means to use that, there should be no screen protectors. That tech using ultrasonic vibrations so the protectors will mess up the acoustics. There is the iris scanner though.
    I think that might be why they're supposedly going with the shatterproof screens, assuming they're indeed shatterproof. But you're right, either way, I'd want an extra layer of protection, be it a film or TGSP. I'd love to be able to use RhinoShield's impact protection screen protector again, but they haven't been able to make one for the curved screens.

    My question with the in display fingerprint scanner is how much of an affect it'll have on battery life and standby time. From what I've seen so far, the optical scanners definitely have an affect on battery, especially since you have to apply a bit of pressure for it to work. People open their phones a lot throughout the day, so it'll add up.
    10-31-2018 09:47 PM
  8. chanchan05's Avatar
    I think that might be why they're supposedly going with the shatterproof screens, assuming they're indeed shatterproof. But you're right, either way, I'd want an extra layer of protection, be it a film or TGSP. I'd love to be able to use RhinoShield's impact protection screen protector again, but they haven't been able to make one for the curved screens.

    My question with the in display fingerprint scanner is how much of an affect it'll have on battery life and standby time. From what I've seen so far, the optical scanners definitely have an affect on battery, especially since you have to apply a bit of pressure for it to work. People open their phones a lot throughout the day, so it'll add up.
    The new shatterproof screen is fortified plastic. You know who else is using a plastic shatterproof screen? Motorola. They call it Shattershield. Is it really shatterproof? Yes. Is it also a scratch magnet? Yes, because it's plastic. Basically, to make something shatterproof, you need it to be softer so it can sort of squeeze on impact and distribute the force better. Then to make something scratchproof, it has to be so hard that nothing can make impressions on it. So yeah. Pick your poison.
    11-01-2018 12:11 AM
  9. LilSweetLin's Avatar
    The new shatterproof screen is fortified plastic. You know who else is using a plastic shatterproof screen? Motorola. They call it Shattershield. Is it really shatterproof? Yes. Is it also a scratch magnet? Yes, because it's plastic. Basically, to make something shatterproof, you need it to be softer so it can sort of squeeze on impact and distribute the force better. Then to make something scratchproof, it has to be so hard that nothing can make impressions on it. So yeah. Pick your poison.
    True. At least it seems that Samsung is listening to the complaints about screen protectors not fitting correctly.
    11-01-2018 12:23 AM
  10. fatboy97's Avatar
    There is always something new rumored to come out next. I know someone that had a Galaxy Note 4 until two weeks ago and he upgraded to a Note 9. He is happy. Me, I did get a new device every year, until last year and I said no. I'm sitting on a S8+ and I'm going to wait and see what actually come out from Samsung in the Spring. Rumors don't always happen.
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    11-03-2018 03:20 PM
  11. cardboard60's Avatar
    Samsung is not listening to customer complain about Bixby.
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    11-19-2018 07:39 PM
  12. 103Softail's Avatar
    The only possible downside I could see on the next gen Samsungs is if they're using in-display fingerprint scanners, which means to use that, there should be no screen protectors. That tech using ultrasonic vibrations so the protectors will mess up the acoustics. There is the iris scanner though.
    Screen protectors suck IMO anyway after using note 8 since new without one - just another ploy from manufacturers to get ya $$$. I do use the Samsung folder case tho.
    11-23-2018 05:27 PM
  13. Velenoso's Avatar
    Samsung is not listening to customer complain about Bixby.
    They are, in recent articles which I can't find but did read, bixby beat down siri google assist and alexa in a show down. Also in that article they stated that samsung will be spending 22 billion on bixby over the next 2 years.

    Found it.

    https://www.afr.com/technology/did-s...0181107-h17n1y
    11-23-2018 06:12 PM
  14. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    They are, in recent articles which I can't find but did read, bixby beat down siri google assist and alexa in a show down. Also in that article they stated that samsung will be spending 22 billion on bixby over the next 2 years.

    Found it.

    https://www.afr.com/technology/did-s...0181107-h17n1y
    Literally nothing in that article suggests that Bixby 'beat down Siri, Google Assistant and Alexa in a showdown'. Infact, the developers know that Bixby is behind the competition by saying:

    "Adam Cheyer, Viv's co-founder and chief technology officer, who developed Siri before selling it to Apple in 2010, admitted that Samsung had fallen behind in the AI market, despite its huge presence in electronics.

    "We're realistic. Google Assistant has been in the market for a number of years, Alexa has 20,000 skills, so we're really starting behind."

    Bixby is years behind Google Assistant - anyone who's used the two could tell you that. The article states that maybe in the future Bixby could catch up or surpass Alexa/Assistant. Sure that could happen, if Google and Amazon literally stop improving Alexa/Assistant and just let Samsung pass them...
    11-23-2018 11:08 PM
  15. Velenoso's Avatar
    Literally nothing in that article suggests that Bixby 'beat down Siri, Google Assistant and Alexa in a showdown'. Infact, the developers know that Bixby is behind the competition by saying:

    "Adam Cheyer, Viv's co-founder and chief technology officer, who developed Siri before selling it to Apple in 2010, admitted that Samsung had fallen behind in the AI market, despite its huge presence in electronics.

    "We're realistic. Google Assistant has been in the market for a number of years, Alexa has 20,000 skills, so we're really starting behind."

    Bixby is years behind Google Assistant - anyone who's used the two could tell you that. The article states that maybe in the future Bixby could catch up or surpass Alexa/Assistant. Sure that could happen, if Google and Amazon literally stop improving Alexa/Assistant and just let Samsung pass them...
    When you have the guy who created siri saying "Viv Labs has been working to radically overhaul Bixby with an AI system which the company says is far more sophisticated than anything Google, Amazon, Apple or Microsoft have been able to achieve"

    I believe them not you dude.
    11-23-2018 11:14 PM
  16. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    When you have the guy who created siri saying "Viv Labs has been working to radically overhaul Bixby with an AI system which the company says is far more sophisticated than anything Google, Amazon, Apple or Microsoft have been able to achieve"

    I believe them not you dude.
    I'll believe it when I see it. Easy to make outlandish claims, very hard to back them up.

    Again, where does it state Bixby has 'beaten out' the other AI assistants? Certainly doesn't say it in the article, nor has it been demonstrated in the real world.
    11-23-2018 11:20 PM
  17. Velenoso's Avatar
    I'll believe it when I see it. Easy to make outlandish claims, very hard to back them up.

    Again, where does it state Bixby has 'beaten out' the other AI assistants? Certainly doesn't say it in the article, nor has it been demonstrated in the real world.
    It's implied in the heading of the article, "Did Samsung's Bixby just beat out Siri, Alexa and Google"

    Plus I've been looking into this reading other articles and they say the new bixby will be released next year, maybe to coincide with Samsung's 10th anniversary.

    If your not happy about my post who cares.
    11-23-2018 11:27 PM
  18. I Can Be Your Hero's Avatar
    It's implied in the heading of the article, "Did Samsung's Bixby just beat out Siri, Alexa and Google"

    Plus I've been looking into this reading other articles and they say the new bixby will be released next year, maybe to coincide with Samsung's 10th anniversary.

    If your not happy about my post who cares.
    This was your original comment, posted as a factual statement that has already happened:

    They are, in recent articles which I can't find but did read, bixby beat down siri google assist and alexa in a show down. Also in that article they stated that samsung will be spending 22 billion on bixby over the next 2 years.

    Found it.

    https://www.afr.com/technology/did-s...0181107-h17n1y
    The the article you source doesn't make the claim you did, it poses a question.

    Then when you read the article, it suggests that Bixby *could* beat out the other AI assistants given the new technology. And sure it could, but Google and Amazon and Apple will also be improving their AI assistants too, but they are in a far better position than Bixby is right now.
    11-23-2018 11:52 PM
  19. jhimmel's Avatar
    They are, in recent articles which I can't find but did read, bixby beat down siri google assist and alexa in a show down. Also in that article they stated that samsung will be spending 22 billion on bixby over the next 2 years.

    Found it.

    https://www.afr.com/technology/did-s...0181107-h17n1y
    Can you link the article where Bixby beat down Siri, Google assistant, and Alexa in a show down? The article you linked just talks about what Samsung is working on.
    11-24-2018 03:30 AM
  20. gendo667's Avatar
    There is always something new rumored to come out next. I know someone that had a Galaxy Note 4 until two weeks ago and he upgraded to a Note 9. He is happy. Me, I did get a new device every year, until last year and I said no. I'm sitting on a S8+ and I'm going to wait and see what actually come out from Samsung in the Spring. Rumors don't always happen.
    Same. Still rocking my S8. It'll be the S10 or......something for me.
    11-24-2018 03:33 AM
  21. Velenoso's Avatar
    Can you link the article where Bixby beat down Siri, Google assistant, and Alexa in a show down? The article you linked just talks about what Samsung is working on.

    The heading implies it "Did Samsung's Bixby just beat out Siri, Alexa and Google" You can either accept it or not I don't really care.
    11-24-2018 04:02 AM
  22. jhimmel's Avatar
    The heading implies it "Did Samsung's Bixby just beat out Siri, Alexa and Google" You can either accept it or not I don't really care.
    Nothing to accept. The heading asked a question (in case you aren't aware, publications often try to get attention with a tantalizing heading). Anyway, if you read the actual article you will find no "show down" and no "beat down". Just go ahead and read it. At least it is clear what forms the basis of your whole argument. Thanks.
    11-24-2018 01:30 PM
  23. JHStewart1023's Avatar
    Honestly we cant compare devices unless the device is here... right now the s10 is just rumored features... if you can hold out and wait... awesome. if not pick up a note. it's a great phone.
    11-25-2018 06:22 AM
  24. cardboard60's Avatar
    Say the S10 comes out on 5G
    And 5 G will only work in major cities.
    What happens when you leave the major city it's to my understanding. That a 5 G phone will not work on 5g networks and 4G networks.
    What now.
    You need 2 phones.
    And you will need a 5 G wireless router to be able to use Wifi calling .
    12-06-2018 04:08 AM
  25. TechNut79's Avatar
    Say the S10 comes out on 5G
    And 5 G will only work in major cities.
    What happens when you leave the major city it's to my understanding. That a 5 G phone will not work on 5g networks and 4G networks.
    What now.
    You need 2 phones.
    And you will need a 5 G wireless router to be able to use Wifi calling .
    Not true. See this article. (Don't let Verizon and AT&T's bad 5G demos temper your excitement for 5G in the real world https://www.androidcentral.com/dont-...per-excitement) It'll fall back to 4G, just like current phones will fall back to 3G if needed.
    12-06-2018 04:25 AM
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